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SABRES 89
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Oct 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BduICJxuqDA

It's terrible, but he mentioned trying to get them to include Oettinger in the 1st video or including Marchment or Heiskanen as a salary dumps. That was a different level of terrible. 4 disposable guys for Robertson got thrown around here a lot.

I feel bad. He makes a lot of content and is trying to be serious.

- Lunaion

Who is this guy, your not getting Robertson and Benn for that crap.
SABRES 89
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Oct 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
He says Adams is very logical but then says we should get Benn at 9.5 for 3 more years, pay Robertson 8-9 a year, skinner 9, Tage 7, Dahlin what 8 ? this guy is on crack.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
Who is this guy, your not getting Robertson and Benn for that crap.
- SABRES 89


Just know 36 is a big fan.
SABRES 89
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Oct 5 @ 10:38 PM ET
Just know 36 is a big fan.
- Lunaion

Big fan of what? and where is all this coming from ? Andrew Peters ? are you serious ?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 5 @ 10:50 PM ET
Just know 36 is a big fan.
- Lunaion

Yep
Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 5 @ 10:52 PM ET
Who is this guy, your not getting Robertson and Benn for that crap.
- SABRES 89

I was looking through different stuff and this guys video showed up, thought it was funny.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 5 @ 10:54 PM ET
Big fan of what? and where is all this coming from ? Andrew Peters ? are you serious ?
- SABRES 89


We're just having a laugh at it.
SABRES 89
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Oct 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
I was looking through different stuff and this guys video showed up, thought it was funny.
- Buff36

It's funny all right
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 6 @ 3:08 AM ET
This is an excellent job by Robertson's agent, and a very good deal for him.

Much like Tkachuk, he'll be in full control after this deal ends, as an RFA who can ARB his way to UFA status with a $9.3M qualifying offer.

He'll be able to sign a massive deal as he turns 27, when the cap has really begun to rise ($90M+ at that point).

Jason Robertson #TexasHockey
$7.75M x 4

Confirmed Breakdown:
Yr 1: $1.5M base salary + $3M signing bonus
Yr 2: $8M
Yr 3: $9.2M
Yr 4: $9.3M

RFA Qualifying Offer: $9.3M

Robertson is represented by @CAAHockey

https://twitter.com/CapFr...M-gERsf7-hZKcn0nitdg&s=19
Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 6 @ 4:36 AM ET
This is an excellent job by Robertson's agent, and a very good deal for him.

Much like Tkachuk, he'll be in full control after this deal ends, as an RFA who can ARB his way to UFA status with a $9.3M qualifying offer.

He'll be able to sign a massive deal as he turns 27, when the cap has really begun to rise ($90M+ at that point).

Jason Robertson #TexasHockey
$7.75M x 4

Confirmed Breakdown:
Yr 1: $1.5M base salary + $3M signing bonus
Yr 2: $8M
Yr 3: $9.2M
Yr 4: $9.3M

RFA Qualifying Offer: $9.3M

Robertson is represented by @CAAHockey

https://twitter.com/CapFr...M-gERsf7-hZKcn0nitdg&s=19

- kingcong39

Not bad at all, think you brought up a 5yr deal yesterday.
kingcong39
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Oct 6 @ 7:21 AM ET
Not bad at all, think you brought up a 5yr deal yesterday.
- Buff36


I wonder if some of the hangup was the deal being 5 years or 4 years, as 5 years would walk him right to free agency, but 4 years means Dallas can at least trade his rights and get something in return if Robertson doesn't want to commit to Dallas long term.
Buff36
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Oct 6 @ 7:42 AM ET
I wonder if some of the hangup was the deal being 5 years or 4 years, as 5 years would walk him right to free agency, but 4 years means Dallas can at least trade his rights and get something in return if Robertson doesn't want to commit to Dallas long term.
- kingcong39

But what is going to be his Qualifying Offer in 4yrs. Does it go off the 7.75Avv or the 9.3m the contract ends at. Even if the Cap goes up could be hard to get a decent return.
IonSabres
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Oct 6 @ 7:47 AM ET
I wonder if some of the hangup was the deal being 5 years or 4 years, as 5 years would walk him right to free agency, but 4 years means Dallas can at least trade his rights and get something in return if Robertson doesn't want to commit to Dallas long term.
- kingcong39


It's set up to be a DeBrincat situation in 4 years.
By then, with the Cap growing they'll have options
kingcong39
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Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:49 AM ET
But what is going to be his Qualifying Offer in 4yrs. Does it go off the 7.75Avv or the 9.3m the contract ends at. Even if the Cap goes up could be hard to get a decent return.
- Buff36


It's 120% of his AAV or the final year of $9.3M.

Take a guess what 120% of his AAV is...
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:51 AM ET
It's set up to be a DeBrincat situation in 4 years.
By then, with the Cap growing they'll have options

- IonSabres


Tkachuk is another immediate comparable.
Buff36
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Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 6 @ 7:53 AM ET
It's 120% of his AAV or the final year of $9.3M.

Take a guess what 120% of his AAV is...

- kingcong39

That's a decent size QO, could be looking at a Mac contract or bigger to sign him.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:29 AM ET
Think it was clear my implication was to move on at the end of their current deals.
- Lunaion


-1 appendix = tough time to understand someone "implicate " something on a message board.
Boss34
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Oct 6 @ 8:32 AM ET
It's set up to be a DeBrincat situation in 4 years.
By then, with the Cap growing they'll have options

- IonSabres


In all seriousness, does this short 4 year deal vs. The cats long extension decrease Robertsons value?






Why?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 6 @ 9:05 AM ET
In all seriousness, does this short 4 year deal vs. The cats long extension decrease Robertsons value?






Why?

- Boss34


Sorry Boss, I'm not following.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 6 @ 9:19 AM ET
Jeremiah came out with his Top Rookies for the 1st Qtr. Of the season. Elam was at 21 but the Jets had 4 on list.
Boss34
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Oct 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
Sorry Boss, I'm not following.
- IonSabres


Just wondering if the 4 year deal signed by Robertson (had he been signed/traded) would have affected the overall value of his return.

My guess is the value would have been closer to the cat, instead of the " 4 pieces" I've been posting about.

The "why?" Was just trolling. You posted a hilarious response to thirtysix the other day 😀
Buff36
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Oct 6 @ 9:43 AM ET
Just wondering if the 4 year deal signed by Robertson (had he been signed/traded) would have affected the overall value of his return.

My guess is the value would have been closer to the cat, instead of the " 4 pieces" I've been posting about.

The "why?" Was just trolling. You posted a hilarious response to thirtysix the other day 😀

- Boss34

Why because the Sabres were afraid to take a chance on a 2 time 40 goal 1 time 30 goal scorer and see if he would sign long term with all this talent the Sabres have. Or the part where people on here where saying let's bet on the team and use a unprotected 1st in a possible Robertson trade. I see!!
joshs
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Joined: 07.07.2012

Oct 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
Why because the Sabres were afraid to take a chance on a 2 time 40 goal 1 time 30 goal scorer and see if he would sign long term with all this talent the Sabres have. Or the part where people on here where saying let's bet on the team and use a unprotected 1st in a possible Robertson trade. I see!!
- Buff36


People or just me? The point I was making was that I think olo, JJP, a protected 1st and whatever else isn’t enough trade power and if I was Dallas I would want something interesting in return. Just politely trying to make conversation with a fellow poster but in return I get attitude from the peanut gallery.
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
So no Robertson?
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Oct 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
People or just me? The point I was making was that I think olo, JJP, a protected 1st and whatever else isn’t enough trade power and if I was Dallas I would want something interesting in return. Just politely trying to make conversation with a fellow poster but in return I get attitude from the peanut gallery.
- joshs


I’m allergic to peanuts
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