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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
They pulled him after 2 against Arizona.
- Bettmanhatesus

lol speaking of ARZ Chiasson was just released from his PTO he scores 13 goals with limited TOI here as a Canuck and can't crack the Yotes line up. The tank is on in ARZ.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
Not shaving his feet paid off...
- boonerbuck

lol the journey of this season is only beginning my friend...

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 9 @ 7:01 PM ET
lol speaking of ARZ Chiasson was just released from his PTO he scores 13 goals with limited TOI here as a Canuck and can't crack the Yotes line up. The tank is on in ARZ.


- LordHumungous

Canucks will sign him yet, injuries just started lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 7:09 PM ET
Canucks will sign him yet, injuries just started lol
- Bettmanhatesus

lol
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
So far I think it's clear this club is content on going the path it was on before Benning got fired. Obviously they intend to make less mistakes than him but the path seems obvious and they have said as much. No reset... additions to make the playoffs more important than acquisitions of picks for replenishing the prospect pool. At TDL, they will focus on making the playoffs again which probably means more picks being moved.

This is what FA wants. This is what management does.

- boonerbuck

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
So far I think it's clear this club is content on going the path it was on before Benning got fired. Obviously they intend to make less mistakes than him but the path seems obvious and they have said as much. No reset... additions to make the playoffs more important than acquisitions of picks for replenishing the prospect pool. At TDL, they will focus on making the playoffs again which probably means more picks being moved.

This is what FA wants. This is what management does.

- boonerbuck



Agreed.

Go Ducks Go
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
Agreed.

Go Ducks Go

- Reubenkincade


You were doing duck face when you posted this weren't you?

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 9 @ 7:51 PM ET
You were doing duck face when you posted this weren't you?


- boonerbuck


Lol. Yes.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 9 @ 8:48 PM ET
So far I think it's clear this club is content on going the path it was on before Benning got fired. Obviously they intend to make less mistakes than him but the path seems obvious and they have said as much. No reset... additions to make the playoffs more important than acquisitions of picks for replenishing the prospect pool. At TDL, they will focus on making the playoffs again which probably means more picks being moved.

This is what FA wants. This is what management does.

- boonerbuck

Pretty much.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 9 @ 10:14 PM ET
I think the flat cap has dictated to many teams what course to take.

High prices to dump cap has made it difficult. High asks for top players another factor. Maneuvering has been the easiest to say & the hardest to actually do.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Told Canucks MNGT he's taking a maintenance week to sub in the new Lord of the Rings series on Prime.
- LordHumungous



VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:32 PM ET
lol speaking of ARZ Chiasson was just released from his PTO he scores 13 goals with limited TOI here as a Canuck and can't crack the Yotes line up. The tank is on in ARZ.


- LordHumungous


ARI / CHI will tank for Bedard from game 1 on.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 9 @ 11:19 PM ET
ARI / CHI will tank for Bedard from game 1 on.
- VanHockeyGuy

Goin out on a limb you are.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 10 @ 1:03 AM ET
I think the flat cap has dictated to many teams what course to take.

High prices to dump cap has made it difficult. High asks for top players another factor. Maneuvering has been the easiest to say & the hardest to actually do.

- Nighthawk


I am not sure what you are trying to say here, but I assume you are trying to justify another stupid move by management.
For the past decade , at least, Canucks management has foolishly spent to the cap ceiling, has traded countless high draft picks, in exchange for a mediocre group of players.
Last season they traded for OEL and Garland, then signed 3rd liner Garland to 5 million per.
They also traded for Richardinson , a 3rd /4th liner.
This season, management signs another 5 million per 3rd liner and the fans are giddy about the best top 9 ever assembled.
Then they trade a 2nd plus cap dump, for a 6/7 defenseman, because they feel they need cap flexibility.
These guys, along with the previous regime, put themselves in this spot.
I said when they got hired, I had some doubts, as did a couple of us, as of today, I would say this regime is no different than the previous group.
Spend to the mav and giveaway as many picks as possible.
9 months in and this group has already given away a 2nd and a 3rd. Ffs.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 10 @ 1:13 AM ET
I am not sure what you are trying to say here, but I assume you are trying to justify another stupid move by management.
For the past decade , at least, Canucks management has foolishly spent to the cap ceiling, has traded countless high draft picks, in exchange for a mediocre group of players.
Last season they traded for OEL and Garland, then signed 3rd liner Garland to 5 million per.
They also traded for Richardinson , a 3rd /4th liner.
This season, management signs another 5 million per 3rd liner and the fans are giddy about the best top 9 ever assembled.
Then they trade a 2nd plus cap dump, for a 6/7 defenseman, because they feel they need cap flexibility.
These guys, along with the previous regime, put themselves in this spot.
I said when they got hired, I had some doubts, as did a couple of us, as of today, I would say this regime is no different than the previous group.
Spend to the mav and giveaway as many picks as possible.
9 months in and this group has already given away a 2nd and a 3rd. Ffs.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve

- Reubenkincade


The Boeser commitment is another reason they are in a cap jam. Can't blame that on Benning. Or the Miller cap hit in a couple of seasons when he most likely takes a considerable step back from what we saw last season... if we ever see that again for that matter.

All these moves stink of "window". Well, I feel that this club can and will probably make the playoffs this season... not sure you can really call that a significant window. It certainly isn't a cup window... something we can all agree on I think.

Where are the players to make that cup window step going to come from? The draft? Not likely drafting in the middle/back half. Free agency... not bloody likely as we have seen over and over here. From within? That would be a miracle named Demko but let's be honest... that is also not likely with the D in front of him.

Tread water for a few seasons then a reset... same path, new management.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 10 @ 1:25 AM ET
The Boeser commitment is another reason they are in a cap jam. Can't blame that on Benning. Or the Miller cap hit in a couple of seasons when he most likely takes a considerable step back from what we saw last season... if we ever see that again for that matter.

All these moves stink of "window". Well, I feel that this club can and will probably make the playoffs this season... not sure you can really call that a significant window. It certainly isn't a cup window... something we can all agree on I think.

Where are the players to make that cup window step going to come from? The draft? Not likely drafting in the middle/back half. Free agency... not bloody likely as we have seen over and over here. From within? That would be a miracle named Demko but let's be honest... that is also not likely with the D in front of him.

Tread water for a few seasons then a reset... same path, new management.

- boonerbuck


I was trying to keep my displeasure as short as possible, but your additional points are very valid.

Go Blue Jackets Go
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:52 AM ET
I am not sure what you are trying to say here, but I assume you are trying to justify another stupid move by management.
For the past decade , at least, Canucks management has foolishly spent to the cap ceiling, has traded countless high draft picks, in exchange for a mediocre group of players.
Last season they traded for OEL and Garland, then signed 3rd liner Garland to 5 million per.
They also traded for Richardinson , a 3rd /4th liner.
This season, management signs another 5 million per 3rd liner and the fans are giddy about the best top 9 ever assembled.
Then they trade a 2nd plus cap dump, for a 6/7 defenseman, because they feel they need cap flexibility.
These guys, along with the previous regime, put themselves in this spot.
I said when they got hired, I had some doubts, as did a couple of us, as of today, I would say this regime is no different than the previous group.
Spend to the mav and giveaway as many picks as possible.
9 months in and this group has already given away a 2nd and a 3rd. Ffs.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve

- Reubenkincade


Also, dumping a contract has always been expensive, it has nothing to do with the flat cap.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:56 AM ET
The Boeser commitment is another reason they are in a cap jam. Can't blame that on Benning. Or the Miller cap hit in a couple of seasons when he most likely takes a considerable step back from what we saw last season... if we ever see that again for that matter.

All these moves stink of "window". Well, I feel that this club can and will probably make the playoffs this season... not sure you can really call that a significant window. It certainly isn't a cup window... something we can all agree on I think.

Where are the players to make that cup window step going to come from? The draft? Not likely drafting in the middle/back half. Free agency... not bloody likely as we have seen over and over here. From within? That would be a miracle named Demko but let's be honest... that is also not likely with the D in front of him.

Tread water for a few seasons then a reset... same path, new management.

- boonerbuck


Benning walked an arbitration eligible RFA with huge QO into their lap. I agree, it has further cemented their problems, but honestly what we’re they supposed to do, walk away?

The Miller deal, and now Horvat are worse. But yes, it sure looks same same so far.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 10 @ 10:44 AM ET
Also, dumping a contract has always been expensive, it has nothing to do with the flat cap.
- 1970vintage


Agreed, although some seem to think everything will be fine, because the NHL has said the day will rise in a couple more seasons.

Go Ducks Go.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 10 @ 10:46 AM ET
Benning walked an arbitration eligible RFA with huge QO into their lap. I agree, it has further cemented their problems, but honestly what we’re they supposed to do, walk away?

The Miller deal, and now Horvat are worse. But yes, it sure looks same same so far.

- 1970vintage



Trade him.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 10 @ 11:27 AM ET
The Boeser commitment is another reason they are in a cap jam. Can't blame that on Benning. Or the Miller cap hit in a couple of seasons when he most likely takes a considerable step back from what we saw last season... if we ever see that again for that matter.

All these moves stink of "window". Well, I feel that this club can and will probably make the playoffs this season... not sure you can really call that a significant window. It certainly isn't a cup window... something we can all agree on I think.

Where are the players to make that cup window step going to come from? The draft? Not likely drafting in the middle/back half. Free agency... not bloody likely as we have seen over and over here. From within? That would be a miracle named Demko but let's be honest... that is also not likely with the D in front of him.

Tread water for a few seasons then a reset... same path, new management.

- boonerbuck


Didn't know much on Allvin but kind of figured Rutherford wasn't here to do a full teardown for picks/prospects and build it all back up. Pretty much knew that from day 1. Having said that MNGT (and ownership lol) obviously feel Benning did a good enough job drafting the new core in Hughes Demmer Petey Boeser and acquiring the likes of Miller and retaining Horvat. Adding Mikheyev and Kuz plus Pods moving up. MNGT must feel happy with what they have. Just build around it and bolster the D and good to go lol. I'm not saying it's right but you and I and few others here knew what to expect. Where it goes from here remains to be seen. Many analysts on SN and TSN have Van making the PO's with this roster. If they play to their capabilities under Boudreau it can be done. But will it be make the PO's and one/done every year? Questions abound....


LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
ARI / CHI will tank for Bedard from game 1 on.
- VanHockeyGuy

Without a doubt.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
Didn't know much on Allvin but kind of figured Rutherford wasn't here to do a full teardown for picks/prospects and build it all back up. Pretty much knew that from day 1. Having said that MNGT (and ownership lol) obviously feel Benning did a good enough job drafting the new core in Hughes Demmer Petey Boeser and acquiring the likes of Miller and retaining Horvat. Adding Mikheyev and Kuz plus Pods moving up. MNGT must feel happy with what they have. Just build around it and bolster the D and good to go lol. I'm not saying it's right but you and I and few others here knew what to expect. Where it goes from here remains to be seen. Many analysts on SN and TSN have Van making the PO's with this roster. If they play to their capabilities under Boudreau it can be done. But will it be make the PO's and one/done every year? Questions abound....
- LordHumungous

Links? I have yet to see one, everything I've seen has them not making the playoffs.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
“So Ian Cole hmmmmmmm”

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
Didn't know much on Allvin but kind of figured Rutherford wasn't here to do a full teardown for picks/prospects and build it all back up. Pretty much knew that from day 1. Having said that MNGT (and ownership lol) obviously feel Benning did a good enough job drafting the new core in Hughes Demmer Petey Boeser and acquiring the likes of Miller and retaining Horvat. Adding Mikheyev and Kuz plus Pods moving up. MNGT must feel happy with what they have. Just build around it and bolster the D and good to go lol. I'm not saying it's right but you and I and few others here knew what to expect. Where it goes from here remains to be seen. Many analysts on SN and TSN have Van making the PO's with this roster. If they play to their capabilities under Boudreau it can be done. But will it be make the PO's and one/done every year? Questions abound....
- LordHumungous


Strange. I remember you calling JR a “gunslinger” and he would be trading like mad to put his own stamp on the club.
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