Their justification is that they think they locked down a top-4 D man through 2030 at $4.28m

If they're right, it's a bargain

It's a risk, no doubt, but it's a hell of a payoff if they're right. Top 4 dmen will make a lot more than that in 2028
- Hank Balling

Top 4 defensemen will make more than that as soon as in 2 seasons, if the expected cap limit rise to $88M happens.

Hyped for game night!

That feeling?

It’s been here all along.

Rooted in Buffalo.

https://twitter.com/Buffa...FmAFyCSywniTDObCXfpA&s=19

Hyped for game night!

That feeling?

It’s been here all along.

Rooted in Buffalo.

https://twitter.com/Buffa...FmAFyCSywniTDObCXfpA&s=19
- kingcong39

Great hype video , can't wait until tonight.

7-1 ottawa 😐

And if he performs well, then you pay him more and into his 30s, rather than buying all of his 20s now. It's a risk, yeah, but that bridging alternative is as well. The latter is just risk disguised as patience
- Hank Balling

My only confusion with this is I really don’t think you pay much more after a good season this year.

He’s not an offensive guy. Shut down D men with one good year don’t cost a ton

Dude come on.

A 2nd round pick that has only played 54 games, you don't hand him 30 million guaranteed. It's unprecedented, and extremely reckless.

Every outside of buffalo "da (frank)"

Buffalo fans "wow what a great move"

Newsflash it wasn't a good move.
- Mentalorgasm5

It was a “risky” move
But we have no idea if it was a good move or not yet
We’ll have to wait & see how this all plays out

#1. Toronto

The scoring is ridiculous, their defense is the best they have had since the 1900s, their goaltending should be good enough. I believe in Samsonov over Murray, but one of the two should shine and if everyone can stay healthy this team will see beyond the first round of the playoffs for sure….

My only confusion with this is I really don’t think you pay much more after a good season this year.

He’s not an offensive guy. Shut down D men with one good year don’t cost a ton
- sbroads24

You do when the cap limit is $88M in 2 seasons, or $92M in three seasons.

You're the only poster that feels this way.

Tells you something.

Actually it should tell you something, you're in the minority and wrong.


Anyone else not like the samuelsson signing?
- Boss34

Okay, you're asking a question to a fanbase that will be bias. Go ask any other team. Gives you a better sense of reality.

Two things.

One, he and Dahlin could form a true top pairing. If that happens, his pay would definitely go up.

More importantly, two, the cap limit will rise, and notably so in 2 seasons, which means his pay will rise because contracts are often based on comparable deals in terms of percentage of the cap limit at the time the deals were signed.
- kingcong39

1) dahlin should be so great it really shouldn't matter whi his partner is.

2) hoping the cap will greatly increase isn't justification to make bad moves.

My only confusion with this is I really don’t think you pay much more after a good season this year.

He’s not an offensive guy. Shut down D men with one good year don’t cost a ton
- sbroads24

McCabe got $4m x 4 years despite being injured for four years straight

1) dahlin should be so great it really shouldn't matter whi his partner is.

2) hoping the cap will greatly increase isn't justification to make bad moves.
- Mentalorgasm5

Saying it shouldn't matter who is Dahlin's partner and having a player who is part of a top pair defense tandem who needs a new contract are two things that don't go together (fantasy vs. reality).

Hope? The NHL shared with teams where they expect the cap limit to be for each of the upcoming 3 seasons weeks ago with teams, so teams could have an idea for planning purposes.

This is what they shared:

22-23 $82.5M
23-24 $83.5M
24-25 $87.5-$88M
25-26 $92M

Start of season new feature!

Contracts that expire as RFA now display the qualifying offer amount!

(Shown: Nicolas Hague capfriendly.com/players/nicola…)

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nicolas-hague

https://www.capfriendly.c...lator/nicolas-hague/11924

https://twitter.com/CapFr...p2F8foDVn2K7x3ts1Zrw&s=19

JFC, 4.28 million for a top 4 D-man in the NHL is a franking bargin. Even if he stays on the pace of 20pts a year and keeps his +/- in the single digits playing 16-20 mins a night its a TOTAL W...

I see really ZERO risk in this signing only upside.

I predict 3 goals, 20 assist, -5, averaging 18 mins a night.

Totally worth 4.28 Million for 7 years

PPL get your heads outcha butts. This is a great thing.

JFC, 4.28 million for a top 4 D-man in the NHL is a franking bargin. Even if he stays on the pace of 20pts a year and keeps his +/- in the single digits playing 16-20 mins a night its a TOTAL W...

I see really ZERO risk in this signing only upside.

I predict 3 goals, 20 assist, -5, averaging 18 mins a night.

Totally worth 4.28 Million for 7 years

PPL get your heads outcha butts. This is a great thing.
- hehateme

my hope is that he never scores a goal in the NHL..

#1. Toronto

The scoring is ridiculous, their defense is the best they have had since the 1900s, their goaltending should be good enough. I believe in Samsonov over Murray, but one of the two should shine and if everyone can stay healthy this team will see beyond the first round of the playoffs for sure….
- jochfr

Wishful thinking
I’ll believe it when i see it

You do when the cap limit is $88M in 2 seasons, or $92M in three seasons.
- kingcong39

Maybe
But the Sabres wouldn’t have to wait 2 or 3 seasons, would they?

Okay, you're asking a question to a fanbase that will be bias. Go ask any other team. Gives you a better sense of reality.
- Mentalorgasm5

That's fair, I think dirty D mentioned some opposing fans appreciating the signing.

Wishful thinking
I’ll believe it when i see it
- jdfitz77

their goaltending wasn't "good enough" yesterday

Every contract signed is speculation on both sides. It need not be more complicated than that. Adams is gambling that the kid will be everything that we hope he will be. He could have waited longer and lessened the risk but also increased the likelihood of paying more later. I personally like it and would advocate doing it for all of the kids that we think are the future. As others have pointed out, in the worst case scenario (he stinks) it is much easier to move on from someone under 26.

their goaltending wasn't "good enough" yesterday
- SabresFaninIndiana

Murray is a shell of his Cup-winning self
And the Caps gave up Samsonov for free

Leafs screwed themselves

Guess we'll never get to hear Drip Too Hard. Too bad.

Guess we'll never get to hear Drip Too Hard. Too bad.
- SDSabre

is that MS goal song?

Guess we'll never get to hear Drip Too Hard. Too bad.
- SDSabre

Skinner did it again with "I want to dance with somebody". Love it.

And he had just a slightly different start to his career.

This move is unprecedented, and not in a good way.
- Mentalorgasm5

We don't know that.