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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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LEafS HaTeRz:
"Keefe says he doesn't trust his top six!" - Atomic Wedgie
“Matthews wants out!” |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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It should be remembered that the team has played only 3 games. They've won 2 of them, and while they have not looked convincing, the only consistent factor from last year is the top line. Every other line combination has added new elements. The more you decide it's not working and want to mix it up and add in new players, the longer it takes for lines to gel.
I don't think the 4th line has been considerably effective either - the goaltender has been keeping their numbers up - I mean to put it in perspective, David Kampf has an HDCA rate of 22 per 60 minutes of play. His career worst was 12.8 playing in Chicago. Noting that both Aube-Kubel and Aston-Reese are even worse at limiting high danger chances against (25 and 23, respectively) - but none of them have historically been this poor at it.
Chemistry and playing your role takes a bit of time to develop and learn, but the role they will ultimately play is critical to the team's success, so I'd expect Keefe to have some patience. If I were tinkering with that line, I might consider swapping ZAR and Engvall and seeing if the additional mobility changes anything with the line's effectiveness.
With regards to Robertson - I mean, they could use more 5v5 scoring for sure, but one of the 5 5v5 goals we've scored this year was by Malgin - and he's been somewhat effective. His reward is to sit in the press box for it? I don't know. Right now (again only 3 games), one problem with the team is that Marner isn't going yet - the top line has 3 goals against at 5v5 and only 3 goals for. They need to be better, control the play better, and take fewer risky chances. Their opportunities will come - so keep the puck out of our net. - Monkeypunk
Which hasn't been playing very well, mainly due to Matthews having a slow start.
If your best players aren't their best, it's a tough slog winning in the NHL, as you know. |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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If he's going to be with the team for 4 weeks or so might as well get him in some games. - Aaron_85
Opening and closing the door on the bench is being in the game! |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Hot dog poutine to face - Zezel
It's very effective.
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Hot dog poutine to gravyface - Zezel
You rang? |
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Zezel
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Nom nom nom, the poutine place in the shipping container market at Dundas and Bathurst, is the real deal. |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Matthews with 2nd most sog in the league and only 1 goal.
- that's a 5.9 S%...
Should come a hatty very soon. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Matthews with 2nd most sog in the league and only 1 goal.
- that's a 5.9 S%...
Should come a hatty very soon. - 21peter
He'll obviously get one tonight playing against his future team. |
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The Law
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Matthews with 2nd most sog in the league and only 1 goal.
- that's a 5.9 S%...
Should come a hatty very soon. - 21peter
They've been pretty dominant ...just no finish yet. Like Gravy to Zezzies face ..it's coming in hot. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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They've been pretty dominant ...just no finish yet. Like Gravy to Zezzies face ..it's coming in hot. - The Law
Best thing about season so far has been JT’s play |
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21peter
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He'll obviously get one tonight playing against his future team. - AdamFrench
dats gonna hurt |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Best thing about season so far has been JT’s play - Canada Cup
Ya a good JT makes everything better. Also happy to see Muzzin get much better last game. Going to need him to be good. |
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Santo_44
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Best thing about season so far has been JT’s play - Canada Cup
You see guys like Bergeron, Marchand, Pavelski, ect all play very effective late into their 30s...Leaf fans and media put this doomsday clock on JT which is ridiculous.
Players are allowed to have down years and I think for aging star players they may have seasons where they need to adjust their game.
Bergeron had that 55 point season when he hit 30. Pavelski had a couple down years then hit a PPG last year.
We could see JT's best season this year. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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dats gonna hurt - 21peter
Big ticket guys like Matthews love playing in front of 5,000 people |
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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You see guys like Bergeron, Marchand, Pavelski, ect all play very effective late into their 30s...Leaf fans and media put this doomsday clock on JT which is ridiculous.
Players are allowed to have down years and I think for aging star players they may have seasons where they need to adjust their game.
Bergeron had that 55 point season when he hit 30. Pavelski had a couple down years then hit a PPG last year.
We could see JT's best season this year. - Santo_44
Saw a funny tweet that JT's jump can be attributed to his kids finally being of an age to sleep through the night. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Big ticket guys like Matthews love playing in front of 5,000 people - Canada Cup
It will be just like when he went to yotes games as a kid.
Ah the memories. |
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21peter
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Big ticket guys like Matthews love playing in front of 5,000 people - Canada Cup
but they're all very hockey knowledgeable |
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21peter
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It will be just like when he went to yotes games as a kid.
Ah the memories. - Fakepartofme
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The Law
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You see guys like Bergeron, Marchand, Pavelski, ect all play very effective late into their 30s...Leaf fans and media put this doomsday clock on JT which is ridiculous.
Players are allowed to have down years and I think for aging star players they may have seasons where they need to adjust their game.
Bergeron had that 55 point season when he hit 30. Pavelski had a couple down years then hit a PPG last year.
We could see JT's best season this year. - Santo_44
He couldn't work out properly after the concussion so no surprise to me that he had a sub-par year last year. With age, you take a month or two off and it all turns to poop in a hurry. Just ask Wedgie ....
A proper summer and training camp and he's looking good. Fingers crossed. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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He couldn't work out properly after the concussion so no surprise to me that he had a sub-par year last year. With age, you take a month or two off and it all turns to poop in a hurry. Just ask Wedgie ....
A proper summer and training camp and he's looking good. Fingers crossed. - The Law
Was going to write a snappy comeback, but damn, it's true. |
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Santo_44
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He couldn't work out properly after the concussion so no surprise to me that he had a sub-par year last year. With age, you take a month or two off and it all turns to poop in a hurry. Just ask Wedgie ....
A proper summer and training camp and he's looking good. Fingers crossed. - The Law
Agreed.
I think him and Willy could have a monster season.
I have them both on my fantasy hockey team so I hope |
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Santo_44
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Saw a funny tweet that JT's jump can be attributed to his kids finally being of an age to sleep through the night. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - gravyface
100 point season thanks to the little Johnnys |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Saw a funny tweet that JT's jump can be attributed to his kids finally being of an age to sleep through the night. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - gravyface
and are walking
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Saw a funny tweet that JT's jump can be attributed to his kids finally being of an age to sleep through the night. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - gravyface
Jt is going into his 5th year with the leafs.
So far he has 278pts in 283 games which is 0.98ppg. Being the first youngish superstar to hit FA, we all knew his contract was going to be inflated at bit. But at the time, i was hoping to get 4-5 quality years from him, if he stays at just under a ppg this season, then i feel the contract was very much worth it and has met expectations.
That doesnt even include the final two years where he could still be close to ppg.
JT's great, perfect captain for the leafs. |
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