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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
Bedard is now where near in McDavids class from what I've seen so far. Draft a good RHD FFS.
- LordHumungous

That would have when JB was trading for Miller and Garland. Probably could have had Schneider and Clarke hypothetically.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
Like I said before I think Rutherford is here for retirement money not to build a 3-cup winner like in PIT. We get what we get. I know what to expect. Hoping Allvin uses his scouting prowess like Benning did to snag some gems like Petey.

However I'm going all-in on a home win for Van this Saturday. Maybe it's the reverse effect we normally suck at home and are good on the road so a big home win streak?


- LordHumungous


Yeah I honestly think JR just too old for the game nowadays. Got lucky having Crosby, Malkin, Letang which afforded him ability to make bold complimentary moves. As long as he didn't eff with that core, he could take some swings and even some misses. Maybe he thought he had the makings of a similar core here with QH, EP, JTM but quickly realized one bad move and this team could be guaranteed bottom feeder and not potential bubble team ... and he knows FA doesn't want that. Combined with the tease of a decent team 2nd half last year with the BB bump and the league didn't take them seriously ... only reason I can think for him to be so reserved and just trod down the same path laid out by JB.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
I don't buy Boudreau's positive takes, I do agree with JR stating the team isn't playing the right way. After 10-12 games we may find Mike Yeo stepping in.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
I don't buy Boudreau's positive takes, I do agree with JR stating the team isn't playing the right way. After 10-12 games we may find Mike Yeo stepping in.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think a loss tomorrow will be the end of Boudreau's reign.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
I think a loss tomorrow will be the end of Boudreau's reign.
- Marwood


I don't think so, if they don't figure things out before they go on the road again something may happen.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
I think a loss tomorrow will be the end of Boudreau's reign.
- Marwood


Aren’t they still paying Green? What a franchise.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 21 @ 12:27 PM ET
I don't buy Boudreau's positive takes, I do agree with JR stating the team isn't playing the right way. After 10-12 games we may find Mike Yeo stepping in.
- VanHockeyGuy

Full tank.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Oct 21 @ 12:31 PM ET
I think a loss tomorrow will be the end of Boudreau's reign.
- Marwood



I don’t think so. Firing the gm-coach-towel boy last year was the end of the slack for the players. You can’t just keep firing coaches and let the players escape all accountability. What will happen next if the boys keep losing, is you might see a trade where you trade Boeser or Horvat with cap retained at 50%(if needed) for a nobody, just to shake the room up.

At this point firing coaches every 12 months does little but allowing the country club to escape all consequences.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
I don’t think so. Firing the gm-coach-towel boy last year was the end of the slack for the players. You can’t just keep firing coaches and let the players escape all accountability. What will happen next if the boys keep losing, is you might see a trade where you trade Boeser or Horvat with cap retained at 50%(if needed) for a nobody, just to shake the room up.

At this point firing coaches every 12 months does little but allowing the country club to escape all consequences.

- I-own_da-Northwest

Agreed. However, it's the Canuck way to take the easy route. They had a chance to make a culture change over the summer and instead doubled down. To me, that means that they don't find fault with the players, they just keep making up excuses.

Although, Rutherford's recent move is brilliant, "I expected this...".
We're not at the "but the floods" level yet...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
I don’t think so. Firing the gm-coach-towel boy last year was the end of the slack for the players. You can’t just keep firing coaches and let the players escape all accountability. What will happen next if the boys keep losing, is you might see a trade where you trade Boeser or Horvat with cap retained at 50%(if needed) for a nobody, just to shake the room up.

At this point firing coaches every 12 months does little but allowing the country club to escape all consequences.

- I-own_da-Northwest

Agreed. Getting rid of Boudreau does nothing to solve the issues.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:08 PM ET
Agreed. Getting rid of Boudreau does nothing to solve the issues.
- NorthNuck


It would be a good start.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 21 @ 1:08 PM ET
Bedard is now where near in McDavids class from what I've seen so far. Draft a good RHD FFS.
- LordHumungous

If you draft 1st OA, who do you take if not Bedard? The top ranked D is a lefty and not even in the top 10 currently. Trade Horvat and use that Pick on the RHD and take a C with our top 3 pick(assuming we continue to be unable to win a game)
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Oct 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
Agreed. However, it's the Canuck way to take the easy route. They had a chance to make a culture change over the summer and instead doubled down. To me, that means that they don't find fault with the players, they just keep making up excuses.

Although, Rutherford's recent move is brilliant, "I expected this...".
We're not at the "but the floods" level yet...

- Marwood


Can you expand on your solution?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
It would be a good start.
- Reubenkincade

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
If you draft 1st OA, who do you take if not Bedard? The top ranked D is a lefty and not even in the top 10 currently. Trade Horvat and use that Pick on the RHD and take a C with our top 3 pick(assuming we continue to be unable to win a game)
- Retinalz


Not sure where you get your information from, but, I am pretty sure this kid is the highest ranked defenseman, who is in the top 10 and is also right-handed.

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/740681/cameron-allen
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:27 PM ET

- NorthNuck


You like Bruce, I don't.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
Can anyone other than Bo, win a faceoff?

I guess that happens when you play wingers at the centre position.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 21 @ 1:33 PM ET
Can you expand on your solution?
- Quinn's Quest

No.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 21 @ 1:36 PM ET
No.
- Marwood


LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
Aren’t they still paying Green? What a franchise.
- bloatedmosquito

Lol Yipes. And Lou and Holtby?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
If you draft 1st OA, who do you take if not Bedard? The top ranked D is a lefty and not even in the top 10 currently. Trade Horvat and use that Pick on the RHD and take a C with our top 3 pick(assuming we continue to be unable to win a game)
- Retinalz

I've said before BPA is fine in the top 5 or even top 10 IMO. Outside of that fill your needs and develop.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
Lol Yipes. And Lou and Holtby?
- LordHumungous

Wrong.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 21 @ 1:43 PM ET
Lol Yipes. And Lou and Holtby?
- LordHumungous


Not Lou anymore thank god. Just Braden Holtby @ $1,900,000 and Jake Virtanen @ $500,000.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
Can anyone other than Bo, win a faceoff?

I guess that happens when you play wingers at the centre position.

- Reubenkincade


Another statement that is a sad state of affairs and depth for the nucks - we could really use Brandon Sutter right now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
Not Lou anymore thank god. Just Braden Holtby @ $1,900,000 and Jake Virtanen @ $500,000.
- bloatedmosquito

Ah ok. Man I miss the Big country!!

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