By trading one of Horvat, Pouty or Mega Alpha.
- Marwood

Just 1 of them?😄

Depends on when he comes back. No cap in the playoffs
- manvanfan

unfortunately i don't think they want to go full Kucherov with him considering he hasn't even practiced with the team at this point. They're anticipating him back sometime around the end of December last I heard.

tank or trade


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General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today the following roster moves:

- Curtis Lazar and Brock Boeser placed on injured reserve
- Sheldon Dries and William Lockwood recalled from Abbotsford (AHL)
- VanHockeyGuy

Both please.

He's not wrong.
- Marwood

He isn’t wrong but he didn’t say anything. Hansen isn’t smart

Doubt Horvat goes anywhere. Get some help on D first.
- LordHumungous

Off to Florida.
In return Van receives Hornqvist, Justin Sourdif, Mackie Samoskevich, Evan Nause and Ludvid Jansson

It’s The Who do we trade now show.

Personally I don’t think anything will work out. So many times trades and draft picks turn into duds. It’s just more years of misery for nothing. Change has to come in waves and layers not one approach.

If I am sure of one thing, no matter what happens, everyone will be unhappy until the product on the ice produces wins.

He isn’t wrong but he didn’t say anything. Hansen isn’t smart
- CanuckDon

Agreed, it would have been a far more thoughtful piece had he thrown in some patented Don material.
Something along the lines of Boeser is trash, swedes blow and the team is soft.

unfortunately i don't think they want to go full Kucherov with him considering he hasn't even practiced with the team at this point. They're anticipating him back sometime around the end of December last I heard.
- BINGO!

He can practice with the team while he is rehabbing

Cheat to win or watch others do it

Carolina has currently 6.8M in cap space. If you retain half on Horvat, add a 2nd round pick also. It just cost Van a 2nd round pick to save 1.3M
- manvanfan

wtf are you talking about?

It’s The Who do we trade now show.

Personally I don’t think anything will work out. So many times trades and draft picks turn into duds. It’s just more years of misery for nothing. Change has to come in waves and layers not one approach.

If I am sure of one thing, no matter what happens, everyone will be unhappy until the product on the ice produces wins.
- Quinn's Quest

I'm happy. I was watching some highlights on prospects picks this morning. Leo Carlsson looks great, so does Fantilli. Bedard goes without saying.

I wasn't as high on Yager. Calum Ritchie would be a good top 15 pick, right hand center. Matthew Wood has a lot of promise. Charlie Stramel is the type of player Van could really use.

Only 3 defenders were ranked in central scoutings "A" rankings but I think a few of those "B" will move into first round territory.

Jannick Hanson, from another site.


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Lachlan Irvine
By Lachlan Irvine
34 minutes ago
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When Jannik Hansen made his weekly appearance on The People’s Show on Sportsnet 650, he cut right to the chase: in his eyes, the Vancouver Canucks are in deep, deep trouble. The former Canuck didn’t hold back, firing shots at the team-building approach led by ownership and the front office over the last decade and its’ lack of success, as well as recent messages by the new management team.
Specifically, Hansen pointed to President of Hockey Ops Jim Rutherford’s Saturday night interview on After Hours with Scott Oake, and his use of the phrase ‘retool on the fly’. That phrase has become synonymous in this market with ownership’s willingness to embrace mediocrity in favour of short-term profits, and Hansen knows it.
“This started when they fired
- Reubenkincade[Alain Vigneault] back when we got swept by San Jose. It’s been 10 years, I haven’t seen the fruit of their labour, if you will. I don’t think they’re closer to winning the Stanley Cup than they were when they traded [Kesler]. It seems like you need something radical to shake this up,” Hansen said.
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“Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. We saw this story last year. It’s the same group, it’s the same leaders, it’s the same horses pulling the wagon.”
From there, Hansen broke down the basic fallacies of a retool, and why that kind of team-building strategy is almost always destined to fail.
“This ‘retool on the fly’, we add a couple of pieces, we still have a good core. But what happens is that the core keeps moving, and you’re not quite there. So we’re gonna get two or three, four years down the line, and all of a sudden we have these young players that might become really good, but Petey, Quinn and Demko might be that much older and we’re talking about them like we’re talking about Bo and J.T. right now,” Hansen said.
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“You need to have these guys coming together at the same time if you want to have an opportunity and then fill in around them. But if you keep up this patchwork, you’re always going to be short on players the right age and finding the right guys at the right time.”
Hansen did acknowledge that the road through a full rebuild is painful and difficult, but he also pointed out that so many of the teams that fully invested in the process went on to years of contention.
“Look at Chicago before they picked up Kane, Toews, Keith, and Seabrook and how bad those teams were. And yeah, it was a lot of tough nights. I’m sure they’re looking at Colorado, and how long they were bad. But it comes around and it seems like it comes around quicker if you do that.”
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But when it comes to how the Canucks’ front office should approach these kinds of changes in the public sphere, again Hansen didn’t pull any punches.
“I think the fans in Vancouver and the media, if you come out and tell them that this is what to expect, and not a Jim Benning message that ‘we will fix this in three years’ and seven years later we’re still in the same hole, then you can buy into it,” Hansen said. “There’s gonna be a lot of tough, tough hockey games here. But then there’s a clear path instead of this status quo where you’re just hovering in the middle, you’re not quite good enough to get into the playoffs, but you’re too good to get these draft picks that’ll make a true difference down the line.”

In Hansens defense he's not wrong on certain counts. But at the same time also hilarious to hear him comment on what this club needs considering his part in the country club for almost 10 seasons.

Agreed, it would have been a far more thoughtful piece had he thrown in some patented Don material.
Something along the lines of Boeser is trash, swedes blow and the team is soft.
- Whiskey-Tango

He appeals to morons like you. Anyone other than you on this blog is more articulate than Hansen. 4 paragraphs and he didn’t really say anything other than bad rebuild, mediocre team etc. no sh!t Hansen! Most of your audience isn’t braindead like that hick Whickey Tango. Do better

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Jannik Hansen is calling for a proper Vancouver Canucks rebuild, not a ‘retool’

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Lachlan Irvine
By Lachlan Irvine
34 minutes ago
1 COMMENT
When Jannik Hansen made his weekly appearance on The People’s Show on Sportsnet 650, he cut right to the chase: in his eyes, the Vancouver Canucks are in deep, deep trouble. The former Canuck didn’t hold back, firing shots at the team-building approach led by ownership and the front office over the last decade and its’ lack of success, as well as recent messages by the new management team.
Specifically, Hansen pointed to President of Hockey Ops Jim Rutherford’s Saturday night interview on After Hours with Scott Oake, and his use of the phrase ‘retool on the fly’. That phrase has become synonymous in this market with ownership’s willingness to embrace mediocrity in favour of short-term profits, and Hansen knows it.
“This started when they fired
- Reubenkincade[Alain Vigneault] back when we got swept by San Jose. It’s been 10 years, I haven’t seen the fruit of their labour, if you will. I don’t think they’re closer to winning the Stanley Cup than they were when they traded [Kesler]. It seems like you need something radical to shake this up,” Hansen said.
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“Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. We saw this story last year. It’s the same group, it’s the same leaders, it’s the same horses pulling the wagon.”
From there, Hansen broke down the basic fallacies of a retool, and why that kind of team-building strategy is almost always destined to fail.
“This ‘retool on the fly’, we add a couple of pieces, we still have a good core. But what happens is that the core keeps moving, and you’re not quite there. So we’re gonna get two or three, four years down the line, and all of a sudden we have these young players that might become really good, but Petey, Quinn and Demko might be that much older and we’re talking about them like we’re talking about Bo and J.T. right now,” Hansen said.
ADVERTISEMENT

Ad
“You need to have these guys coming together at the same time if you want to have an opportunity and then fill in around them. But if you keep up this patchwork, you’re always going to be short on players the right age and finding the right guys at the right time.”
Hansen did acknowledge that the road through a full rebuild is painful and difficult, but he also pointed out that so many of the teams that fully invested in the process went on to years of contention.
“Look at Chicago before they picked up Kane, Toews, Keith, and Seabrook and how bad those teams were. And yeah, it was a lot of tough nights. I’m sure they’re looking at Colorado, and how long they were bad. But it comes around and it seems like it comes around quicker if you do that.”
ADVERTISEMENT

Ad
But when it comes to how the Canucks’ front office should approach these kinds of changes in the public sphere, again Hansen didn’t pull any punches.
“I think the fans in Vancouver and the media, if you come out and tell them that this is what to expect, and not a Jim Benning message that ‘we will fix this in three years’ and seven years later we’re still in the same hole, then you can buy into it,” Hansen said. “There’s gonna be a lot of tough, tough hockey games here. But then there’s a clear path instead of this status quo where you’re just hovering in the middle, you’re not quite good enough to get into the playoffs, but you’re too good to get these draft picks that’ll make a true difference down the line.”

Re-tool 4.0

How do you propose they get help on defense? I doubt Boeser, or Rathbone etc, net much in the way of help on defense.
- Reubenkincade

Rutherford can gunsling. Garland Pearson, Hogs make a trade for some help. Lots of teams that would take garland or Pearson. We'd have to toss something in so be it.

Rutherford can gunsling. Garland Pearson, Hogs make a trade for some help. Lots of teams that would take garland or Pearson. We'd have to toss something in so be it.
- LordHumungous

Somethings up with those callups.

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General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today the following roster moves:

- Curtis Lazar and Brock Boeser placed on injured reserve
- Sheldon Dries and William Lockwood recalled from Abbotsford (AHL)
- VanHockeyGuy

Amazing

Amazing
- NewYorkNuck

Addition by subtraction with Brock out but I think Lazar has been a decent add. The tank is gaining momentum. Hansen should be happy

Amazing
- NewYorkNuck

A couple more timely IR moves and we'll be able to ice a solid AHL team.

Dhaliwal: There's a rumor going around Ethan Bear is close to being traded.

Canucks are still interested.

𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀 Faber 🔥🎙
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Elias Pettersson (D-Petey) and Jonathan Lekkerimäki will represent Sweden at their 4-nations J20 tune up tournament next month.

Looks like there’s only Finland, Sweden, and Czechia though.

The tournament is from November 7-13th in Ostrava, Czechia.

#CanucksProspect

Why not just ask another nation to join. Slovakia? Germany?

Dhaliwal: There's a rumor going around Ethan Bear is close to being traded.

Canucks are still interested.
- VanHockeyGuy

Have the Canes left Vancouver yet? FA trying to save money on the plane ticket

Dhaliwal: There's a rumor going around Ethan Bear is close to being traded.

Canucks are still interested.
- VanHockeyGuy

What an odd target

Have the Canes left Vancouver yet? FA trying to save money on the plane ticket
- NewYorkNuck

He's a healthy scratch, probably back in CAR. He's not the answer to their woes.

Have the Canes left Vancouver yet? FA trying to save money on the plane ticket
- NewYorkNuck

Yeah they flew back to Raleigh yesterday.