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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
Sporting news 13. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
NHL.com 12. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
hockey writers 10. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
NHL network 12. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
Fanrankings 8. Quinn Hughes Team: Vancouver Canucks

- manvanfan


But did you spend 2 min? That looks like a 1 min search.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
Quote from mid Sept... after no changes made to the D.

“I guess you never know. We’re still looking at all our options, but I’m happy with the defense group we have.” - Patrik Allvin

- boonerbuck

Didn't they also cite getting Poolman back as a significant addition?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
Didn't they also cite getting Poolman back as a significant addition?
- NorthNuck


More or less...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
lol he'll be great for the pre game shows.
- LordHumungous

What does this mean? Explain.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Sporting news 13. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
NHL.com 12. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
hockey writers 10. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
NHL network 12. Quinn Hughes, Vancouver Canucks
Fanrankings 8. Quinn Hughes Team: Vancouver Canucks

- manvanfan

Neat. Where do you rank him?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
That's why I found Hansen's statements hilarious. Part of the Sedin era country club now on the slamwagon!!


- LordHumungous

He was apart of the failure though. Maybe he knows what just about everyone else seems to know except for anyone who takes the GM job in Van.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Neat. Where do you rank him?
- CanuckDon


I like those rankings. I'd put him 12 to 14ish. If he had 2 more inches height and 20 pounds he'd win way more battles on the boards and in front of the net, and that would easily put him in the top 10.

I'd say he's an elite passer and elite at transitioning the puck but falls "short" on his physical defensive play.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
But did you spend 2 min? That looks like a 1 min search.
- boonerbuck

It probably took 2 because some were top 10 and he wasn't ranked. So that was a bit of a waste.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 27 @ 3:38 PM ET
I like those rankings. I'd put him 12 to 14ish. If he had 2 more inches height and 20 pounds he'd win way more battles on the boards and in front of the net, and that would easily put him in the top 10.

I'd say he's an elite passer and elite at transitioning the puck but falls "short" on his physical defensive play.

- boonerbuck

Totally fair. I probably have him around 20-25. Still a really good player but his lack of shot limits his PP effectiveness and obviously he is an adventure in his own end. Great transitionally for sure
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:43 PM ET
Neat. Where do you rank him?
- CanuckDon

I'd go the same as Booner, somewhere 12-15 range.

His defensive side of the game could still use a lot of work but teams need offence from their defence now a days. He provides that in abundance. A power play QB.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
Everybody coming to slam on the Canucks.

Feel like you hear that statement a lot these days from former tweener NHLer's. Team's fault not mine that I didn't make it.

- manvanfan


Also, it wasn’t Leaf fans who thought he was an Olympian, that was all Esplen and his slurpers.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 3:46 PM ET
Totally fair. I probably have him around 20-25. Still a really good player but his lack of shot limits his PP effectiveness and obviously he is an adventure in his own end. Great transitionally for sure
- CanuckDon


Ya, I didnt consider his lack of shot on the PP.

I do think he would be better in his own end if he had smarter more skilled players to dish to. Petey and Bo excluded. After that you have high risk guys(Miller Myers), weak on their rush(Boeser Hoglander), not smart enough to find open ice(most of the top 9 and his D partners)... it just makes it so much more difficult to get out of your own end unless you just carry the puck the entire distance which also adds up in the mistake department when you are a smaller player.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 27 @ 3:47 PM ET
What does this mean? Explain.
- NorthNuck

You know exactly what it means.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 27 @ 3:48 PM ET
Ya, I didnt consider his lack of shot on the PP.

I do think he would be better in his own end if he had smarter more skilled players to dish to. Petey and Bo excluded. After that you have high risk guys(Miller Myers), weak on their rush(Boeser Hoglander), not smart enough to find open ice(most of the top 9)... it just makes it so much more difficult to get out of your own end unless you just carry the puck the entire distance which also adds up in the mistake department when you are a smaller player.

- boonerbuck

his lack of shot is a serious problem for this team. The PK can largely ignore him. You are probably right that he would be more valuable on a team with wingers that can win board battles/ a team w more structure
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
Totally fair. I probably have him around 20-25. Still a really good player but his lack of shot limits his PP effectiveness and obviously he is an adventure in his own end. Great transitionally for sure
- CanuckDon

Next season 6'4" 207 lb no offence Brian Dumoulin will be a free agent. Could be a good addition to trying to play better defence.

Also Ryan Graves and Damon Severson.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Oct 27 @ 3:50 PM ET
Totally. I guess if you remove the connotation that brings, I would judge them based on how they compare to other teams best players at F and D around the league. I woudn't put them top 10, but I wouldn't put them bottom 10 either. To me to get anyone better it has to come through luck and drafting.
- NorthNuck


They are definitely pieces that you build around as is Demko. The Canucks really need to find a complimentary partner for Hughes.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
12-15ish
- VanHockeyGuy


The Canuck way
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 3:56 PM ET
Also, it wasn’t Leaf fans who thought he was an Olympian, that was all Esplen and his slurpers.
- 1970vintage

I don't really remember that guy.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 27 @ 3:59 PM ET
I don't really remember that guy.
- manvanfan

He posted Conan videos in every blog.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
Ya, I didnt consider his lack of shot on the PP.

I do think he would be better in his own end if he had smarter more skilled players to dish to. Petey and Bo excluded. After that you have high risk guys(Miller Myers), weak on their rush(Boeser Hoglander), not smart enough to find open ice(most of the top 9 and his D partners)... it just makes it so much more difficult to get out of your own end unless you just carry the puck the entire distance which also adds up in the mistake department when you are a smaller player.

- boonerbuck

I've been watching some 2023 prospects game play lately. There's not as many forward players that are strong in the transition game then there used to be.

A lot look more dependant on defenders to move the puck.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 27 @ 4:12 PM ET
I don't really remember that guy.
- manvanfan


You should be thankful for that.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
Some mock trades for Horvat
So far, I am told the Devils, Senators and Sabres have interest. -EKlund


Devils Severson, Zetterlund, 1st for Horvat and Schenn

Senators 1st and Grieg for Horvat

Sabres Krebs, Johnson, the lowest of the 3- 2nds they have.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
Didn't they also cite getting Poolman back as a significant addition?
- NorthNuck


If everybody is healthy and playing up to their maximum potential, we should do alright.

-Patrick Alvin-
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 27 @ 4:32 PM ET
I don't really remember that guy.
- manvanfan


He was a regular poster who sold himself to Ek as someone who could fill for the absence of our blogger full time. After Gage left, there wasn't a regular blogger here. A couple started and disappeared.

Epslen was terrible. He was the most unrealistic fanboy. Worse than Nighthawk even. Some of the crap he said brought in an unbearable amount of trolls.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
If everybody is healthy and playing up to their maximum potential, we should do alright.

-Patrick Alvin-

- Sayros

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