We don't need another 4LW until Krebs/Olof is traded
- DirtyDan

that's kind of how I feel about all of this. I don't need any more warm bodies. One option is to make a hockey trade. The other option is to fix the low-hanging fruit (send Krebs to Roch, get Skinner off of the PP, move Ollo).

It isn't like the team is getting outclassed. The mistakes last night absolutely killed them and it isn't like it was Fitzgerald and Pilut that were the ones killing the team. Outside of 2 or 3 players the entire team stunk.

There's a kid in Canada who just started skating and we will need that 5 th round pick on him in 12 years.
- SABRES 89

Wins aren’t important though.

This year is all about seeing how good Jack Quinn and Krebs are skating with lumps of turd on the 4th line and running a horrendous PP

The Granato and Adams extensions seriously must’ve made every other team piss their pants with laughter

There's a kid in Canada who just started skating and we will need that 5 th round pick on him in 12 years.
- SABRES 89

4th rd is the honeypot

Wins aren’t important though.

This year is all about seeing how good Jack Quinn and Krebs are skating with lumps of turd on the 4th line and running a horrendous PP

The Granato and Adams extensions seriously must’ve made every other team piss their pants with laughter
- sbroads24

So moving that 5th rounder for the scrub D would make the rest of the league look up to Adams. Got it. Is it always raining there?

that's kind of how I feel about all of this. I don't need any more warm bodies. One option is to make a hockey trade. The other option is to fix the low-hanging fruit (send Krebs to Roch, get Skinner off of the PP, move Ollo).

It isn't like the team is getting outclassed. The mistakes last night absolutely killed them and it isn't like it was Fitzgerald and Pilut that were the ones killing the team. Outside of 2 or 3 players the entire team stunk.
- Slump Buster

Get Skinner off the PP? and keep Mitts and Okposo there ? yea I got it now.

So moving that 5th rounder for the scrub D would make the rest of the league look up to Adams. Got it. Is it always raining there?
- Slump Buster

we could be in last place in the division by the end of the weekend

So moving that 5th rounder for the scrub D would make the rest of the league look up to Adams. Got it. Is it always raining there?
- Slump Buster

The problem is he's not a scrub D, caught in a numbers game in Carolina. It wouldn't have hurt the Sabres to give him a shot.

So moving that 5th rounder for the scrub D would make the rest of the league look up to Adams. Got it. Is it always raining there?
- Slump Buster

No. Winning games will be the only thing that won’t make this organization look completely Mickey Mouse

When they do ANYTHING that shows winning games for their fans and players is priority #1, let me know.

“Casey Fitzgerald didn’t kill us therefore we don’t need to upgrade” is just so lame at this point.

Bear has talent. This isn’t an apples to apples comparison, but Devon Toews, an inarguably top 10 Defensemen was traded for 2 second round picks. That’s “what the league thought of him”

Bear has talent. This isn’t an apples to apples comparison, but Devon Toews, an inarguably top 10 Defensemen was traded for 2 second round picks. That’s “what the league thought of him”
- sbroads24

we have lots of second rd picks

we could be in last place in the division by the end of the weekend
- homiedclown

And this matters.... why?

I am going to sum this up in the clearest way possible. We are in a freaking build. Yes, I am sorry - that means you aren't going to put out the same lineup that you would if your life depended on it. Wins matter, but winning a championship matters more. This is why bad teams don't go out and make bite-sized transactions that would make them marginally better in the short term.

Going through the build means that we are going to see good and bad from the young players. Power and Mitts have at times looked fabulous and at other times terrible. So did Dahlin and Cozens last year - you wouldn't have the players that they are today if we didn't let them play through it.

The alternative is to never go through a build. But if you do choose that path, this is life inside of it. You give the kids some rope and see if they are good enough. It takes time and there aren't shortcuts.

But Jesus H, it is game 7 of the season. The biggest question was the goaltending and that has been above average. The major problems are mistakes and that can be corrected.

Ethan Bear absolutely sucks.

What type of player gets traded to the worst nhl team, for a 5th rounder with salary retained.

You guys who can't see this and want to bash the Sabres, really need to step off the ledge.

we have lots of second rd picks
- homiedclown

Toews was actually worth a first rounder. If there is a Toews to be had then go out and get him. Nobody is worried about throwing away a fifth rounder.

that's kind of how I feel about all of this. I don't need any more warm bodies. One option is to make a hockey trade. The other option is to fix the low-hanging fruit (send Krebs to Roch, get Skinner off of the PP, move Ollo).

It isn't like the team is getting outclassed. The mistakes last night absolutely killed them and it isn't like it was Fitzgerald and Pilut that were the ones killing the team. Outside of 2 or 3 players the entire team stunk.
- Slump Buster

Okposo is still on the PP and your worrying about Skinner...

Pilut looked meh, Fitzgerald does absolutely nothing though, Bear would of been a clear upgrade.

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And this matters.... why?

I am going to sum this up in the clearest way possible. We are in a freaking build. Yes, I am sorry - that means you aren't going to put out the same lineup that you would if your life depended on it. Wins matter, but winning a championship matters more. This is why bad teams don't go out and make bite-sized transactions that would make them marginally better in the short term.

Going through the build means that we are going to see good and bad from the young players. Power and Mitts have at times looked fabulous and at other times terrible. So did Dahlin and Cozens last year - you wouldn't have the players that they are today if we didn't let them play through it.

The alternative is to never go through a build. But if you do choose that path, this is life inside of it. You give the kids some rope and see if they are good enough. It takes time and there aren't shortcuts.

But Jesus H, it is game 7 of the season. The biggest question was the goaltending and that has been above average. The major problems are mistakes and that can be corrected.
- Slump Buster

So are multiple teams who simultaneously have an expectation bar that isn’t in the basement.

It’s not good enough anymore. They are WASTING Rasmus Dahlin, Alex Tuch, what’s left of Jeff Skinner, Dylan Cozens’s ELC. They have a decent amount of talent right now.

A few minor and maybe one significant move and they are a playoff contender

Ethan Bear absolutely sucks.

What type of player gets traded to the worst nhl team, for a 5th rounder with salary retained.

You guys who can't see this and want to bash the Sabres, really need to step off the ledge.
- Boss34

The issue isn't so much that they didn't trade for Ethan Bear. There will be plenty more "buy low" opportunities that will come around throughout the season. The problem is that the Sabres have done nothing to indicate that they have any interest in that. They are taking a team that doesn't have much more potential than to be a perennial Wild Card team if everything goes right in a few years and saying "this is who we're going to war with".

Okposo is still on the PP and your worrying about Skinner...

Pilut looked meh, Fitzgerald does absolutely nothing though, Bear would of been a clear upgrade.
- DirtyDan

"Clear" upgrade is an unknown. He might be, I have no idea.

Okposo has never bothered me on the PP. He has a history of scoring goals on the PP with his wrist shot. Skinner has a long history of sucking on the PP. That's the one thing that Ralphie got right.

The issue isn't so much that they didn't trade for Ethan Bear. There will be plenty more "buy low" opportunities that will come around throughout the season. The problem is that the Sabres have done nothing to indicate that they have any interest in that. They are taking a team that doesn't have much more potential than to be a perennial Wild Card team if everything goes right in a few years and saying "this is who we're going to war with".
- buffalofan19

Well, no. They said they were out there trying to make trades. That was yesterday. It hasn't happened yet so Adams sucks.

"Clear" upgrade is an unknown. He might be, I have no idea.

Okposo has never bothered me on the PP. He has a history of scoring goals on the PP with his wrist shot. Skinner has a long history of sucking on the PP. That's the one thing that Ralphie got right.
- Slump Buster

1 has scored on the PP this year 1 has not scored at all and has 2 total assists

So are multiple teams who simultaneously have an expectation bar that isn’t in the basement.

It’s not good enough anymore. They are WASTING Rasmus Dahlin, Alex Tuch, what’s left of Jeff Skinner, Dylan Cozens’s ELC. They have a decent amount of talent right now.

A few minor and maybe one significant move and they are a playoff contender
- sbroads24

I'd agree with you if we were further along in the build. I know this is the heart of where we disagree. I see this as another step in the build, you think it is time to hit the gas. I guess it is just a matter of when people think the build is over. If you build with kids you have to be willing to take the lumps.

Well, no. They said they were out there trying to make trades. That was yesterday. It hasn't happened yet so Adams sucks.
- Slump Buster

No the Sabres don’t win games so he sucks.

People seriously have Stockholm syndrome with this organization

It’s so damn easy to make the playoffs in this league and this team refuses to try to do it.

Well, no. They said they were out there trying to make trades. That was yesterday. It hasn't happened yet so Adams sucks.
- Slump Buster

What in his three years as GM makes you think he's capable of pulling the trigger on a good trade? The only decent one he's made so far is the Eichel one, and that was essentially with a gun to his head.

1 has scored on the PP this year 1 has not scored at all and has 2 total assists

- DirtyDan

And you're going with the smallest of sample sizes. Did you also think that Dahlin was going to score 82 goals this year? The PP is a freaking mess. Okposo hasn't been great, my point is that Skinner has long since sucked on the PP. Half of the problem is that their scheme isn't working given the personnel.

Well, no. They said they were out there trying to make trades. That was yesterday. It hasn't happened yet so Adams sucks.
- Slump Buster

Adams and Granato are sucking the peen lately,

I don't care if Bear were to be the worst D on Earth at least they could show they want to improve.

And you're going with the smallest of sample sizes. Did you also think that Dahlin was going to score 82 goals this year? The PP is a freaking mess. Okposo hasn't been great, my point is that Skinner has long since sucked on the PP. Half of the problem is that their scheme isn't working given the personnel.
- Slump Buster

Okposo should be shutdown/pk role limited. That's his worth. Lead from there old man.

You play goal scorers on the PP.