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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 29 @ 6:01 PM ET
Eklund: Tortorella: Most analytics are trash
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 29 @ 6:32 PM ET
The analytics stocks plummeted after TortS rant.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 29 @ 6:58 PM ET
Ian Anderson and the rest of the Flyers Analytics Dept. must love Torts for saying what they produce is garbage.



GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
Right or wrong, He has a well understaffed team missing several key players who were expected to play about 20 games before winning their first 5, off to a 5-2 start.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
Ian Anderson and the rest of the Flyers Analytics Dept. must love Torts for saying what they produce is garbage.


- Minnyhock


They actually produce something?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 7:16 PM ET
Another example of Tortorella's mind games.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 29 @ 7:39 PM ET
Another example of Tortorella's mind games.
- MJL


Lol. He just wants Ian’s crew to use their eyes and feelings so they can earn their analytics stripes.

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 29 @ 7:57 PM ET
Eklund: Tortorella: Most analytics are trash
- Eklund


Wait, John Tortorella doesn't love analytics??




Next you're gonna tell me that Don Cherry doesn't like immigrants.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 29 @ 8:05 PM ET
Use the force Luke!!! Anyone looks good with a goalie saving ~95% of the shots. If Hart isn't elite, they'll start losing a lot.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Oct 29 @ 9:23 PM ET
Flyerbuzzzzz

TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Oct 29 @ 9:29 PM ET
Good old school coaches like sutter have adapted and learned to use analytics to their advantage. Torts is a dumb old moron that can’t learn anything new and if anyone tries to teach him something new he dismisses it as stupid. He’s a pos.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:05 PM ET
I totally 100% AGREE
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 29 @ 10:09 PM ET
Good old school coaches like sutter have adapted and learned to use analytics to their advantage. Torts is a dumb old moron that can’t learn anything new and if anyone tries to teach him something new he dismisses it as stupid. He’s a pos.
- TurdFergeson


Sutter's system is dedicated to denying controlled zone entries and his teams consistently have strong metrics. I would bet most of Tortorella is an act. I'm sure he realizes goaltending is saving his ass.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Oct 29 @ 10:14 PM ET
Sutter's system is dedicated to denying controlled zone entries and his teams consistently have strong metrics. I would bet most of Tortorella is an act. I'm sure he realizes goaltending is saving his ass.
- jfkst1


https://www.tsn.ca/calgar...alytics-1.1776365?tsn-amp
Trevor Neufeld
Joined: 09.30.2021

Oct 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
He’s right if you have a healthy goalie.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Oct 30 @ 2:24 AM ET
You can't argue with a winner!!!!!!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 30 @ 7:13 AM ET
I am so happy someone finally has the guts to say it because its absolutely true! Though some analytics are useful, most of them are trash, and real coaches and evaluators of players use their eyes and their guts as the primary source of their conclusions.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Oct 30 @ 8:20 AM ET
I'm a life-long Flyers fan, please pray fo me more now than ever....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 30 @ 8:47 AM ET
Some clueless Flyers fans. All Torotorella is doing is cutting off the analytics conversation. He's standing up for his players. Now he doesn't have to answer the question or defend his over usage of players like McEwen when he's on the ice for 2 shots for and 20 shot attempts against in a game.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Oct 30 @ 9:06 AM ET
mr4tno
Today @ 8:20 AM ET
I'm a life-long Flyers fan, please pray fo me more now than ever....


Pray for you for what reason?
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Oct 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
Pray for you for what reason?
- Richieattack18

Because regardless of the record, they suck at real hockey and cling to a philosophy that has not been effective for 40 years
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Oct 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
So far he’s pushing the right buttons. A coach needs to have the team believe in themselves, let’s see how far this goes.


Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Oct 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
Can’t argue with success. Guy has almost a .600 winning percentage for his career. He’s doing something right
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Oct 30 @ 11:21 AM ET
He’s not wrong
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

Oct 30 @ 11:28 AM ET
Some clueless Flyers fans. All Torotorella is doing is cutting off the analytics conversation. He's standing up for his players. Now he doesn't have to answer the question or defend his over usage of players like McEwen when he's on the ice for 2 shots for and 20 shot attempts against in a game.
- MJL


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Spot on. It is funny to see folks get their panties in a bunch and call him things like a pos simply cause he is defending his team who currently sit 2nd in the conference. His roster is garbage right now and if folks actually watch the games as opposed to just paying attention to stats they would know that their goaltending has been good, but there have been bad goals, especially early on in games. There is room for improvement there.

Like Torts or not, I can say off the ice he is an outstanding human being. Folks here should do a little research on his family then maybe report back to the rest of us with their public apology.

That’s is all.

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