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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 31 @ 2:23 PM ET
The Leafs thread has declared they need trotz to save them. I laugh when I think of trotz trying to coach that collection of self absorbed whiners. They seem to think defense is an after thought and always have since that team has been assembled as presently constructed. That would be such a hard transition with a coach like Trotz. Remember the resistance he got from Ovechkin when he coached the caps. He would have to deal with 6 or 7 Ovechkins on that team
- Cptmjl



Exhibit A was mitchy boy going golfing the day after being eliminated in the first round for the third year in a row. As the old expression goes “when people show you who you are, believe them”. Leafs fans are whiney, but they have a legitimate complaint. They didn’t add to their failed roster.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 31 @ 2:28 PM ET
That JT contract is looking better and better. Playing defense has always been beneath JT.
- ses111



He can’t skate. Never could. He was advertised as the next one in his draft year, but he’s skating was far from elite. The game is too fast to not have legs. The irony of him picking the leafs for a better chance at the cup is the biggest whoops that I can recall
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
He can’t skate. Never could. He was advertised as the next one in his draft year, but he’s skating was far from elite. The game is too fast to not have legs. The irony of him picking the leafs for a better chance at the cup is the biggest whoops that I can recall
- kindlyrick


JT was going home and he is making huge money but the Leafs were not the best hockey spot for him. The Leafs already having Matthews also could have spend the money to shore up other areas. Very similar to the Yankees and Stanton.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 31 @ 2:37 PM ET
JT was going home and he is making huge money but the Leafs were not the best hockey spot for him. The Leafs already having Matthews also could have spend the money to shore up other areas. Very similar to the Yankees and Stanton.
- ses111


They’ve been lacking goaltending and defense for 4 years now. It’s shocking! No cup team wins without solid goaltending and a legit top 4 on the backend. Dubas is a bum….how he’s still got a job is beyond me. He should be on the unemployment line with Snowjob
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 31 @ 2:41 PM ET
They’ve been lacking goaltending and defense for 4 years now. It’s shocking! No cup team wins without solid goaltending and a legit top 4 on the backend. Dubas is a bum….how he’s still got a job is beyond me. He should be on the unemployment line with Snowjob
- kindlyrick


Teams like the Leafs and Cowboys when they make all that money, they are not always motivated to make the necessary changes to win a title. I think it was a mistake for the Leafs to bring everyone back this year.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 31 @ 2:50 PM ET
Teams like the Leafs and Cowboys when they make all that money, they are not always motivated to make the necessary changes to win a title. I think it was a mistake for the Leafs to bring everyone back this year.
- ses111



Absolutely a mistake. Dubas keeps doubling down on the same failed model. It’s enjoyable to watch if I’m being honest. Ha
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 31 @ 3:19 PM ET


Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 4:01 PM ET



- eichiefs9


Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 4:17 PM ET
Damn right he is legit!
- Vukota

Sorokin in net, Dobson on d and barzal at center are your franchise cornerstones
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Oct 31 @ 4:20 PM ET
Matthews is already an very good defensive center, on top of his other obvious talent.

I don't think the buy-in would be particularly difficult from the team, especially when they have jack-shit to show for being "one of the best teams in the league". It's not like they already have some great track record of playoff success to argue with whatever Trotz have them do.

They wouldn't have to be as good defensively under him as the Isles were, because they have the horses up front to put the puck in the net.

- eichiefs9

It really is a trotz to the caps situation as the caps had all the talent they just didn't do the little things to win till Barry came
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:11 PM ET
Sorokin in net, Dobson on d and barzal at center are your franchise cornerstones
- Upstate_isles


I agree
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:13 PM ET
Matthews is already an very good defensive center, on top of his other obvious talent.

I don't think the buy-in would be particularly difficult from the team, especially when they have jack-shit to show for being "one of the best teams in the league". It's not like they already have some great track record of playoff success to argue with whatever Trotz have them do.

They wouldn't have to be as good defensively under him as the Isles were, because they have the horses up front to put the puck in the net.

- eichiefs9



Yeah, you're probably right. Still not sure if would work out in the end but we may soon find out
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:13 PM ET



- eichiefs9

Where did you get that from?
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