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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 15 @ 8:56 AM ET
So is the goal mediocrity which pretty much describes Seeler, or is it building for the future? It sure seems like perpetual mediocrity to me.
- BiggE

I’m in agreement, it’s a rebuilding culture year, whatever the hell is going on. Play the young guys. Zamula imo has not looked out of place when in the lineup, but has caught criticism almost every time he’s played from the coaches. Hopefully he ends up getting 40-50 games when all is said and done.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
So is the goal mediocrity which pretty much describes Seeler, or is it building for the future? It sure seems like perpetual mediocrity to me.
- BiggE
Correct. The coach is full of it as he is all about getting as many wins as possible. It isnt about next year or evaluating players.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Nov 15 @ 8:59 AM ET
The Flyers current forward lineup is possibly the worst in franchise history. At least half are 4th line players or guys who belong in the AHL. And I’m glad they are getting that kid Seeler ice time over that washed up old fart Zamula.

So, no 2nd round picks til God knows when, no cap space and one of the worst rosters in the NHL. And still, Cuckles Fletcher remains in charge.

This once proud franchise is a complete joke. Either clean house or sell the damn team, Comcast. Or, at the very least, just pretend you give a damn. Mr. Meltzer, I believe you are employed by the team. Please explain to us why we should have even a shred of confidence that the current management group can turn this thing around.

- BiggE

Wow.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Nov 15 @ 9:03 AM ET
Comcast needs to get out of the hockey team ownership thing. It’s a failed experiment. Sell the damn team to an owner who cares about the business and the fans. Get rid of Dave Scott and fired Fletcher like yesterday.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:10 AM ET
What do you mean, the 8 year draft and Develop didn’t work?
- ClaudeFather



Don’t worry I’m sure the next one will.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 15 @ 9:13 AM ET
Anyone else notice the difference between Flyers injury descriptions and the CBJ injury descriptions? CBJ tells you what exactly the injury is. Flyers make everyone guess and speculate ad infinitum. Now, all we know about Cam is from a rumor. And on top of that, it's another "attempt to rehab instead of surgery" scenario. Where have we heard that before?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:17 AM ET
Comcast needs to get out of the hockey team ownership thing. It’s a failed experiment. Sell the damn team to an owner who cares about the business and the fans. Get rid of Dave Scott and fired Fletcher like yesterday.
- mikeyo27


Other than if you look at who they choose to run the team, Scott. I'm not sure why many want to blame Comcast. The provide the team with financial resources to form a quality NHL team. They have one of the highest payrolls in the NHL. Projected to rank 9th in player salaries. They've committed millions of dollars to coaches. They have quality facilities and give Fletcher and company an open check book to expand multiple departments of hockey ops. Including scouting and analytics. Is it really on comcast?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 15 @ 9:23 AM ET
Other than if you look at who they choose to run the team, Scott. I'm not sure why many want to blame Comcast. The provide the team with financial resources to form a quality NHL team. They have one of the highest payrolls in the NHL. Projected to rank 9th in player salaries. They've committed millions of dollars to coaches. They have quality facilities and give Fletcher and company an open check book to expand multiple departments of hockey ops. Including scouting and analytics. Is it really on comcast?
- MJL

Is it not on them to realize they are throwing a ton of money on something that isn’t working? Pull the plug on this group.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 15 @ 9:23 AM ET

Thanks Bill. You do good work! Appreciate it every day.

Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 15 @ 9:23 AM ET
Other than if you look at who they choose to run the team, Scott. I'm not sure why many want to blame Comcast. The provide the team with financial resources to form a quality NHL team. They have one of the highest payrolls in the NHL. Projected to rank 9th in player salaries. They've committed millions of dollars to coaches. They have quality facilities and give Fletcher and company an open check book to expand multiple departments of hockey ops. Including scouting and analytics. Is it really on comcast?
- MJL


Correct. They do provide huge support to the Flyers. Where they are culpable is in WHO they hire. Dave Scott is the head of their efforts to support the Flyers, and that is a problem because he hires CF and others. When an organization or company (Comcast in this case) makes major investments, it's on them to hire the right people to oversee that investment for the best possible return. Clearly, that has not happened. And now they're in a position where the ROI horizon keeps getting further and further away. So, in a way, Comcast is responsible for hiring incompetent people to manage a major investment.

Just my 2 cents...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
Is it not on them to realize they are throwing a ton of money on something that isn’t working? Pull the plug on this group.
- ClaudeFather


Did you read where I posted other than choosing Scott to run the team? Financially, comcast gives the team all the resources it needs.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/15/22 @ CBJ; Quick Hits
- bmeltzer

Best line mates Frost has had to far. The way Hayes is playing, I would consider putting Frost between Farabee and Konency.

Interesting approach. Max Willman is a LW on the right side. Tippett is a RW on the left side. Farabee is a LW on the right side (although had his best season to date on the right side). Cates in the middle, when he’s our best forchecking winger. Laughton on the wing when he’s probably our best defensive center.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 15 @ 9:32 AM ET
Did you read where I posted other than choosing Scott to run the team? Financially, comcast gives the team all the resources it needs.
- MJL

I did…so it is on them for letting this nonsense continue. What’s so hard to understand
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:37 AM ET
The Flyers current forward lineup is possibly the worst in franchise history. At least half are 4th line players or guys who belong in the AHL. And I’m glad they are getting that kid Seeler ice time over that washed up old fart Zamula.

So, no 2nd round picks til God knows when, no cap space and one of the worst rosters in the NHL. And still, Cuckles Fletcher remains in charge.

This once proud franchise is a complete joke. Either clean house or sell the damn team, Comcast. Or, at the very least, just pretend you give a damn. Mr. Meltzer, I believe you are employed by the team. Please explain to us why we should have even a shred of confidence that the current management group can turn this thing around.

- BiggE



To be fair I don’t think anyone can be expected to explain the current position or future direction of this team. Employee or not. How guys like Fletcher and Scott remain employed is typical corporation mindsets. 1)The GM lays out his plan. 2). Plan is failing because of unforeseen circumstances (Covid, injuries). 3) new plan with new parameters 4) new time frame….no need to let fans know because they don’t really understand the minutia of our plan anyways. Throw in some great catch phrases. ”aggressive retool”. “Culture change”. “The young guys are going to play”.
Like the last administration, the plan just hasn’t worked. The difference being is Hextall for the most part had a plan and stuck to it…it just failed. The current crop just seems to want to throw crap against the wall and hope something sticks. Fletcher is just not a very good hockey guy…pure and simple. His resume is chalk full of experience that was granted to him because of who his dad is….what other organization has shown this amount of nepotism? Of course this is the perfect spot for a guy who’s entire career is based on it.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:46 AM ET
I did…so it is on them for letting this nonsense continue. What’s so hard to understand
- ClaudeFather


Not sure why you're having difficulty digesting my points made. This is on the people running the team. Comcast is supporting the team financially and has given the team all they need to be successful.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
Correct. They do provide huge support to the Flyers. Where they are culpable is in WHO they hire. Dave Scott is the head of their efforts to support the Flyers, and that is a problem because he hires CF and others. When an organization or company (Comcast in this case) makes major investments, it's on them to hire the right people to oversee that investment for the best possible return. Clearly, that has not happened. And now they're in a position where the ROI horizon keeps getting further and further away. So, in a way, Comcast is responsible for hiring incompetent people to manage a major investment.

Just my 2 cents...

- Letterkenney


Comcast’s hiring practices are done with a corporate mind set. That’s all Dave Scott knows. Dave Scott has a boss. Dave Scott hand picked this guy. Dave Scott is tied to this joker. Like in any corporate project, there are Ebs and flows. They view this as bumps in the project that need tweaking…the excuses sound legit...it’s probably not even on his radar that the guy he hired with the Harvard education is incompetent when it comes to hockey op’s. In the world of professional sports the only way Fletcher would still have a job is with a corporate structure protecting him. If it was an actual owner like Ed Snider or Jeff Laurie he would have been terminated already.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
Torts clearly has no faith in Risto as a dman. They should move him to right wing, waive MacEwen, and call up York.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
Not sure why you're having difficulty digesting my points made. This is on the people running the team. Comcast is supporting the team financially and has given the team all they need to be successful.
- MJL

And continue to employ and financially back a group that has finished in the bottom of the league the past two seasons with no indication of a better result this year. They are the boss. The franchise is sinking and they aren’t helping turn it around.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
Any AA update? Do you think he gets signed when looking at the center depth?
- furio16


They are at 50 contracts.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
They are at 50 contracts.
- Feanor

Can he just continuously stay on the team and play under a PTO?
backfire
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 08.07.2018

Nov 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Recalling this Tom Wilson hit on Atkinson late last year. He left the game and was shut down for rest of year if I am recalling this correctly. Is this the source of his problem?

https://www.google.com/se...qhzY6SzCJii5NoPkOe02AM_32
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Anisimov signs an AHL PTO with the Phantoms.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
Other than if you look at who they choose to run the team, Scott. I'm not sure why many want to blame Comcast. The provide the team with financial resources to form a quality NHL team. They have one of the highest payrolls in the NHL. Projected to rank 9th in player salaries. They've committed millions of dollars to coaches. They have quality facilities and give Fletcher and company an open check book to expand multiple departments of hockey ops. Including scouting and analytics. Is it really on comcast?
- MJL
Yes. They have hired Scott who in turn has hired the rest. S
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
Torts clearly has no faith in Risto as a dman. They should move him to right wing, waive MacEwen, and call up York.
- Feanor


Risto is a streaky player who can really have some rough patches as we’ve all seen….that doesn’t sit well with Tort’s. I think the Flyers could actually move him . There are teams that would take him…
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
Anisimov signs an AHL PTO with the Phantoms.
- bmeltzer



Get him signed to an NHL contract….need to play those kids.
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