Bill Meltzer: Flyers vs. CBJ Wrap; Quick Hits

Hart comes back down to earth and the losses will start piling up..another annual 10 gamelosing streak coming up?....Not much to say about this team it is totally lacking in skilled players and the 1st 2 lines have guys on it that should be on 3rd line with a good team and 3rd and 4th have guys who arent NHL players. . Agree on most nights cant complain about effort . All there is to hope for is somehow they can get that #1 pick but I have a bad feeling about that pick and the PENQUEENS.

I understand CBJ has had a lot of injuries lately but the announcers for last nights game wouldn't stop talking about it. Even Brian Boucher got in on it. Don't they know the Flyers have their own extensive injury list ? Need I go through it ? Therefore I didn't see why it was relative game analysis given the Flyers are playing shorthanded too - and for a long period of time. All they have to do is look at matchups with our first line center to understand. I mean Hayes is doing "ok", but there's a reason why he's not a first liner. And injuries is the reason they have to play so many younger players with less experience, causing more matchup problems.

Not sure i can blame hart for some of these goals

The team has let him down and started to offer those slam dunk goals right inside of the crease again. It was only a matter of time before the other teams had tape on how this flyers team is still leaky as can be.
My hope is that the kids continue to develop while we gracefully fall back into a top 3 draft pick!

Looking forward to see what the first trade the GM makes at the NHL level. God only knows what direction that will go.

The luster is coming off of Hart's hot start and the errors that he was erasing are now showing up in the results. For his sake, I hope he continues to have a good season, but that's going to be a tall order for this roster.

Looking forward to see what the first trade the GM makes at the NHL level. God only knows what direction that will go.
- furio16

He will start trading 2025, 2026, 2027 2nd rounders for more "lunch pail" type of players that skate ugly but put in the effort that torts looks favorably on

Does anyone know when the next episode of The Standard is coming out?

The luster is coming off of Hart's hot start and the errors that he was erasing are now showing up in the results. For his sake, I hope he continues to have a good season, but that's going to be a tall order for this roster.
- Letterkenney

Breakdown the goals allowed.

1. A deflection off his own defenders stick (Braun)

2. A turnover the leads to quick passing and ends in a deflection goal where the defender was half a second too late (Ristolainen)

3. A breakaway (Konency)

4. Screen in front of the net with man left alone, who was able to turn around for a second chance.

5. Three on one odd man rush.

I know I have a lot of opinions today. Some agree, some don’t. I don’t think Hart allowed a single easy goal yesterday.

Does anyone know when the next episode of The Standard is coming out?
- StepfordSam

It's expected soon, but they're having to remake it since the standard has obviously changed.

Breakdown the goals allowed.

1. A deflection off his own defenders stick (Braun)

2. A turnover the leads to quick passing and ends in a deflection goal where the defender was half a second too late (Ristolainen)

3. A breakaway (Konency)

4. Screen in front of the net with man left alone, who was able to turn around for a second chance.

5. Three on one odd man rush.

I know I have a lot of opinions today. Some agree, some don’t. I don’t think Hart allowed a single easy goal yesterday.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed, but did you read where I said "the errors he was erasing are now showing up in the results"?

It's expected soon, but they're having to remake it since the standard has obviously changed.
- Letterkenney

Zing!

Agreed, but did you read where I said "the errors he was erasing are now showing up in the results"?
- Letterkenney

I don’t know what you mean by this.

I don’t know what you mean by this.
- SuperSchennBros

When they were being outplayed and outshot by large margins and still winning with Hart stealing games. What do you think I meant?

I understand CBJ has had a lot of injuries lately but the announcers for last nights game wouldn't stop talking about it. Even Brian Boucher got in on it. Don't they know the Flyers have their own extensive injury list ? Need I go through it ? Therefore I didn't see why it was relative game analysis given the Flyers are playing shorthanded too - and for a long period of time. All they have to do is look at matchups with our first line center to understand. I mean Hayes is doing "ok", but there's a reason why he's not a first liner. And injuries is the reason they have to play so many younger players with less experience, causing more matchup problems.
- BluehorseShoe64

They talked about the Flyers' injuries, even showed a list of injured players from both teams. I didn't notice any excessive playing up of CBJ's injuries during the broadcast.

Breakdown the goals allowed.

1. A deflection off his own defenders stick (Braun)

2. A turnover the leads to quick passing and ends in a deflection goal where the defender was half a second too late (Ristolainen)

3. A breakaway (Konency)

4. Screen in front of the net with man left alone, who was able to turn around for a second chance.

5. Three on one odd man rush.

I know I have a lot of opinions today. Some agree, some don’t. I don’t think Hart allowed a single easy goal yesterday.
- SuperSchennBros

I agree that this string of goals can not be goaded on hart. His defense has kept him out to dry ans left the crease open again.
Just an observation bit was this type of behavior happening before RR came back? I haven't followed this team this year like I have every other year. It's just a random observation of mine. The winning streak ended and RR is a regular again. I'm sure its all coincidental though, right?

When they were being outplayed and outshot by large margins and still winning with Hart stealing games. What do you think I meant?

- Letterkenney

I still don’t know what you mean. Hart isn’t going to steal every game.

I agree that this string of goals can not be goaded on hart. His defense has kept him out to dry ans left the crease open again.
Just an observation bit was this type of behavior happening before RR came back? I haven't followed this team this year like I have every other year. It's just a random observation of mine. The winning streak ended and RR is a regular again. I'm sure its all coincidental though, right?
- Bob Habib

Outside of two or three games all season, we’ve been outplayed by every team. It’s not just one player.

Outside of two or three games all season, we’ve been outplayed by every team. It’s not just one player.
- SuperSchennBros

Agreed. It's feltchers piss poor team building skills that got us here in the first place

Agreed. It's feltchers piss poor team building skills that got us here in the first place
- Bob Habib

He was left with next to nothing wasn’t he tho?

Not saying he’s the greatest but call a spade a spade

He was left with next to nothing wasn’t he tho?

Not saying he’s the greatest but call a spade a spade
- Fopa21

This team has gotten worse since he took over and the cap space has vanished.

I stand by my words... piss poor management

This team has gotten worse since he took over and the cap space has vanished.

I stand by my words... piss poor management
- Bob Habib

Worse teams are mostly a product of poor drafting by previous GM. After this season 12 million comes off books, the following season another 14 million, then another 20.

Clearly you are sadly misinformed & just a drum beater because you heard someone else say Fletcher is to blame. He’s made some questionable moves no doubt & he is far from HOF status but he was left a huge prospect pool of poop from St Ronnie & not being able to replenish your team from within is the biggest factor for failure.

I think most people will agree or have positive things to say about Cutter, Andrea, Forester, Brink, Zamula, Attard, Desnoyers etc

Ronnie left us with Myers, Patrick, Frost, Sanheim, Cates, Alison, Ratcliff

Worse teams are mostly a product of poor drafting by previous GM. After this season 12 million comes off books, the following season another 14 million, then another 20.

Clearly you are sadly misinformed & just a drum beater because you heard someone else say Fletcher is to blame. He’s made some questionable moves no doubt & he is far from HOF status but he was left a huge prospect pool of poop from St Ronnie & not being able to replenish your team from within is the biggest factor for failure.

I think most people will agree or have positive things to say about Cutter, Andrea, Forester, Brink, Zamula, Attard, Desnoyers etc

Ronnie left us with Myers, Patrick, Frost, Sanheim, Cates, Alison, Ratcliff
- Fopa21

How does someone conveniently leave out Ivan Provorov, Travis Konency, Joel Farabee and Carter Hart as Hextall picks? Felix Sandstrom looks good behind a bad team.

Heck, while you’re making your point in favor of Fletcher, how do you forget about Cam York?

How does someone conveniently leave out Ivan Provorov, Travis Konency, Joel Farabee and Carter Hart as Hextall picks? Felix Sandstrom looks good behind a bad team.

Heck, while you’re making your point in favor of Fletcher, how do you forget about Cam York?
- SuperSchennBros

They were already NHL’ers. Fletchers picks have yet to surface so to say he sucks & this mess is his fault without seeing his picks is incomplete.

Teams w 0 prospects like what hexy left us with typically have to spend in free agency hence the cap issue this year. The cap going forward is a non issue. & like I said everyone seems to be positive on the prospects flyers have now & they are Fletchers picks. Hexy’s picks for the most part turned out to be busts

They were already NHL’ers. Fletchers picks have yet to surface so to say he sucks & this mess is his fault without seeing his picks is incomplete.

Teams w 0 prospects like what hexy left us with typically have to spend in free agency hence the cap issue this year. The cap going forward is a non issue. & like I said everyone seems to be positive on the prospects flyers have now & they are Fletchers picks. Hexy’s picks for the most part turned out to be busts
- Fopa21

Who were already NHLers? Provorov, Konency, Hart and Farabee were all Hextall picks. Fletcher has been here roughly four years. He’s traded elite players in Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds and multiple draft picks. He’s been here long enough to burn it down.