Really? I might reach out to some of their fans to see. So you think he’d be a worse option than Campbell or Murray? I really don’t think so. The struggles he’s had are a product of the horrible team in front of him and maybe losing confidence. I know philly fans are notoriously hard on tenders but I think we undervalue him a lot because the team is so bad. He’s a very good young tender who hasn’t hit his prime yet. I feel like teams would pay to get him.
- Hextall271

They are at the stage they need a proven goalie right now. Not another question mark. They are in win now mode.

So what would they pay do you think?

He still has it until proven otherwise. Believing one way or the other doesn't change the player he is or is going to be in the future. It's going to be what it is. We won't know until he plays.
- MJL

No he doesn’t still have it until he proves he does. 8 years what a terrible decision that was to re-sign. They missed a golden opportunity to acquire top end picks / assets has they moved him. Nah need his vet presence as well. Another anchor.

He still has it until proven otherwise. Believing one way or the other doesn't change the player he is or is going to be in the future. It's going to be what it is. We won't know until he plays.
- MJL

Of course, but from my perspective he doesn’t have “it” until proven otherwise.

They are at the stage they need a proven goalie right now. Not another question mark. They are in win now mode.

So what would they pay do you think?
- furio16

Why is he a question mark? Because he can’t overcome the bad team in front of him every night? Both this year and last, he began the season strong and eventually couldn’t overcome the horrible team play in front of him.

In canada, he’s seen as an option for national squads especially now that price is done.

I would say a first and a good young prospect. Maybe more.

Why is he a question mark? Because he can’t overcome the bad team in front of him every night? Both this year and last, he began the season strong and eventually couldn’t overcome the horrible team play in front of him.

In canada, he’s seen as an option for national squads especially now that price is done.

I would say a first and a good young prospect. Maybe more.
- Hextall271

He is a question mark because his pro track record says as much. He was not a good goalie the last 2 years. He has been inconsistent. Plus imo those 2 environments may eat him alive.

Skinner seems he playing well for the Oilers so they may not be in any hurry at the moment.

Well those teams also have bad D you believe. So much does he help then?

Imagine dropping a young talent into this mess of a team. All eyes on him to take charge and fix everything. It’s a recipe for disaster. They don’t even have an established leader or a player with really high end skill on this team to take some of the pressure off him. What a mess.
- Dkos

Along with MJL's comment:

The initial sarcastic response is: "No sh!t, really?"

Do I really need to spend a few sentences explaining that it is all meaningless without a new management team that has a cohesive plan for constructing a team, a player development program to realize that vision from within and the shrewdness to add the right pieces via trades and free agency? The Flyers have had three eras where they executed that type of plan, built around Clarke, Howe and Lindros.

By putting these comments next to mine, you're implying a lot of ignorance on my part that isn't there.

Conversely, I can do the same by saying that the two of you are implying that the team would be better off with a pick outside the top 3. I cannot imagine that is what either of you meant.

The key is a wholesale change to the hockey operations (I am sure there are a few exceptions - the some analytics and scouting personnel possibly) and Comcast Spectacor upper management team.

It will take years and dozens of well-made personnel decisions to make this team a contender again. All I am saying is that if this draft does, indeed, produce three franchise type players as predicted, I hope that the Flyers have one of those three picks. I wouldn't expect that player to be a savior nor would all of their problems be solved. But you have to start somewhere.

Which teams? Again, not talking about being a solid team. Is that the benchmark? I'm talking about being one of the top teams in the league.
- MJL

Your not going to go from a bad to to one of the best in the league in one step.
Being a solid team is the base and you have to build from there to be a perennial contender. A plan and some luck is involved but it can be done.
Florida, Toronto, i think are solid teams but they have missing pieces. The Rangers went from a mediocre team to a very good team. They will be very good if they can fill out their lineup.
NJ is playing very well. Are they for real or just starting to find their way?
Colorado went from not being very good to being the Stanley cup champs in a few years.
The flyers are not close to being a respectable team imo. With a few moves i think they can get their quickly. The problem is that CF has mismanaged things so bad he has handcuffed himself and he do much.

Conversely, I can do the same by saying that the two of you are implying that the team would be better off with a pick outside the top 3. I cannot imagine that is what either of you meant.

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- GeorgeBailey

So somehow, at least from my point of view in saying that getting a top draft pick in and of itself, really isn't going to result in a massive change for the team is implying that they would be better off without a top 3 pick? It seems to me that you're misreading what is being said and taking something personal. It's simply a continuation of the conversation and realistic look at the future. For example, some think that Gauthier is going to come to the Flyers next season and significantly upgrade team. Not likely.

Your not going to go from a bad to to one of the best in the league in one step.
Being a solid team is the base and you have to build from there to be a perennial contender. A plan and some luck is involved but it can be done.
Florida, Toronto, i think are solid teams but they have missing pieces. The Rangers went from a mediocre team to a very good team. They will be very good if they can fill out their lineup.
NJ is playing very well. Are they for real or just starting to find their way?
Colorado went from not being very good to being the Stanley cup champs in a few years.
The flyers are not close to being a respectable team imo. With a few moves i think they can get their quickly. The problem is that CF has mismanaged things so bad he has handcuffed himself and he do much.
- bird_dog_pa

Colorado's journey to becoming a Cup team was close to a decade long. Landeskog played 9 seasons and McKinnon 8 seasons before they were a Cup team. They had to continue to build around them.
In Florida, Ekblad has played 7 seasons and Barkov 8 seasons and they're not there yet. In TB, they won the cup after Stamkos played 10 seasons and Hedman 9 seasons I believe.

We don't seem to be on the same page. I'm talking about the journey from bad to becoming one of the elite teams in the league.

They won't get there quickly. Drafting Gautheir and whoever they get in the next draft is only going to do so much. There is no quick fix to this.