Maybe we have a much deeper rooted problem within the organization with the inability to develop players.

Look at Cole Caufield, before MSL got in there and totally changed the mentality of the team, everyone was ready to call him a bust. Well, after MSL took over, hes been the furthest thing from that.
- aecliptic

Clearly that exists, no question. Same with evaluation of players on past prior to the draft. But the lack of development seems to an org issue as well

Clearly that exists, no question. Same with evaluation of players on past prior to the draft. But the lack of development seems to an org issue as well
- airjan23

Caufield has 2 more points than Kakko in 81 fewer games and 8 more points than Laf in 59 fewer games

Rinse and repeat. Caufield excellent skater, the goals will come. Kakko and Laf are not excellent skaters, therefore, the game is much harder at this level. It’s not development, it’s scouting and judging talent. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Rinse and repeat. Caufield excellent skater, the goals will come. Kakko and Laf are not excellent skaters, therefore, the game is much harder at this level. It’s not development, it’s scouting and judging talent. Talk about beating a dead horse.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

both were the consensus #2 and #1 overall picks if i recall correctly, so can't really blame our scouting/talent department on those. i'd argue that's more of a slight on our development more than anything if we can't turn that high of a pick into a productive nhl player - twice/back to back. Otherwise everyone was wrong, which could also be the case.

both were the consensus #2 and #1 overall picks if i recall correctly, so can't really blame our scouting/talent department on those. i'd argue that's more of a slight on our development more than anything if we can't turn that high of a pick into a productive nhl player - twice/back to back. Otherwise everyone was wrong, which could also be the case.
- Mtlca66

Id bet the house that the same 2 players on another NHL team would double the production we've gotten out of them.

Id bet the house that the same 2 players on another NHL team would double the production we've gotten out of them.
- aecliptic

100% agree

Devils gonna win again??

Devils gonna win again??
- picklerick

Yup bc nico and Hughes living up to the hype. If kakko and Laf actually put up the numbers of those two this team would be full on contenders.

Lets take this back to 2017...
- Lias, Chytil
- Kravtsov, Miller, Lundkvist
- Kakko
- LAF, Schneider

Bombed on Lias.
Chytil, only now, looks like he could be halfway decent, gotta see some consistency.
Kravtsov looks like a bust for us.
Lundkvist didnt work out for us.
Miller...
Kakko, just dont know where the development is.
LAF, another one that should be better but isnt.
Schneider is a solid young dman.

Theres way too much sh!t here. Thats a lot of first round draft picks floundered, high draft picks. Four years in a row of it is more than just a coincidence.

Id bet the house that the same 2 players on another NHL team would double the production we've gotten out of them.
- aecliptic

Don’t know how you come to that conclusion given what we’ve seen. No coach in his right mind is going to treat them with respect they don’t deserve.

Don’t know how you come to that conclusion given what we’ve seen. No coach in his right mind is going to treat them with respect they don’t deserve.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Im not saying from this point on, Im saying if they were drafted by any other NHL team, their production would be double what weve gotten out of them.

Im not saying from this point on, Im saying if they were drafted by any other NHL team, their production would be double what weve gotten out of them.
- aecliptic

I understand what you’re saying, just not how you arrive at that opinion.

I understand what you’re saying, just not how you arrive at that opinion.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Based on how many high draft picks weve floundered the last 4 years (not including Othmann, but the jury is out on that).

Whether it be crap scouting or crap development on our part theres clearly an issue within the organization when it comes to selecting and handling these kids. So much so that I believe, atleast in the case of LAF and Kakko, that if they had been drafted elsewhere their careers would have a different trajectory.

Based on how many high draft picks weve floundered the last 4 years (not including Othmann, but the jury is out on that).

Whether it be crap scouting or crap development on our part theres clearly an issue within the organization when it comes to selecting and handling these kids. So much so that I believe, atleast in the case of LAF and Kakko, that if they had been drafted elsewhere their careers would have a different trajectory.
- aecliptic

I would agree with you if they were drafted by a team with no playoff ambitions or in a total rebuild. Then I suppose, you could let them play and learn without having the pressure to produce.

But, I gotta tell you, I don’t think it’s that complicated. If I’m scouting a player, I don’t care if he scores 80 goals. My 1st question would be, is he an excellent skater? For me, it’s all about the skating level. I think all too often, scouts may not pay much attention to the level of competition these kids are playing against. They may be head and shoulders above that level, but it doesn’t always equate to the NHL. The Rangers have fell victim to that fact frequently as you have pointed out.

Lets take this back to 2017...
- Lias, Chytil
- Kravtsov, Miller, Lundkvist
- Kakko
- LAF, Schneider

Bombed on Lias.
Chytil, only now, looks like he could be halfway decent, gotta see some consistency.
Kravtsov looks like a bust for us.
Lundkvist didnt work out for us.
Miller...
Kakko, just dont know where the development is.
LAF, another one that should be better but isnt.
Schneider is a solid young dman.

Theres way too much sh!t here. Thats a lot of first round draft picks floundered, high draft picks. Four years in a row of it is more than just a coincidence.
- aecliptic

Hate to say it but Schneider has regressed tremendously this year

I would agree with you if they were drafted by a team with no playoff ambitions or in a total rebuild. Then I suppose, you could let them play and learn without having the pressure to produce.

But, I gotta tell you, I don’t think it’s that complicated. If I’m scouting a player, I don’t care if he scores 80 goals. My 1st question would be, is he an excellent skater? For me, it’s all about the skating level. I think all too often, scouts may not pay much attention to the level of competition these kids are playing against. They may be head and shoulders above that level, but it doesn’t always equate to the NHL. The Rangers have fell victim to that fact frequently as you have pointed out.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Agreed this is a skating league. That’s why gauthier is sticking around. You have to be fast quick or shifty in this league.

Agreed this is a skating league. That’s why gauthier is sticking around. You have to be fast quick or shifty in this league.
- nyrangers2

That’s right, you could certainly question his development since his draft. A true power forward, size, great skater, nd now hopefully given a full chance pucks will start going in.

Hate to say it but Schneider has regressed tremendously this year
- nyrangers2

Hate to say it but the entire D has regressed, not just him.

Hate to say it but the entire D has regressed, not just him.
- aecliptic

I think fox and Lindgren have played very well, but overall the defense this year is just bad

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