What is up with the "Cat"? He obviously had inflated #'s playing with Kane...But he is definitely his own player. At the time of the trade everyone(myself included) thought that the Sen's fleeced the Hawks. But it is shaping up to be a lot closer of an even trade then it was at the time it was done.
I was so rooting for the Sen's this year. I so wanted them to be good enough to put pressure on the Leafs. Oh Well The Leafs take care of that themselves!
- camfor

Kane 19GP 3G 12 A 15P -8
Cat 19GP 5G 11A 16P -7

Parker Kelly brings nothing to the table. Kastelic is so strong in the faceoff circle too, heck he had him taking draws against the other teams top line a lot this year. If you bring up Sokolov, who by all accounts is playing very well down in Belleville, you need to play him on the 3rd line, not the checking line. But move down Brassard to give Sokolov a look. But we all know DJ doesn't like playing the youth that get called up from Belleville. Boucher was the same too. Dorion hires coaches who are terrible that way.
- LawyerSens4Life

Sokolov is a winger Brassard is a C so hard to switch them 2 😏
I just thinking 4th line be all big boys on that line and maybe by chance a bit of offence to chip in 🤷‍♂️🫣😂

What is up with the "Cat"? He obviously had inflated #'s playing with Kane...But he is definitely his own player. At the time of the trade everyone(myself included) thought that the Sen's fleeced the Hawks. But it is shaping up to be a lot closer of an even trade then it was at the time it was done.
I was so rooting for the Sen's this year. I so wanted them to be good enough to put pressure on the Leafs. Oh Well The Leafs take care of that themselves!
- camfor

a) he's being coached by DJ Smith
b) they've frequently kept him away from the team's best playmakers

Case in point, Tkachuk, Stutzle, and Giroux have 37A between them... DeBrincat started today's game on the 2nd line with Pinto and Batherson, who combined had the same number of assists as DeBrincat going into the game.

Sokolov is a winger Brassard is a C so hard to switch them 2 😏
I just thinking 4th line be all big boys on that line and maybe by chance a bit of offence to chip in 🤷‍♂️🫣😂
- sens4life1971

Actually Brassard plays all 3 positions at forward but has played the RW a ton more the last few years. So he would be fine at center or RW. Regardless, Sokolov should get a look but we all know he won't unless a rash of injuries occur.

a) he's being coached by DJ Smith
b) they've frequently kept him away from the team's best playmakers

Case in point, Tkachuk, Stutzle, and Giroux have 37A between them... DeBrincat started today's game on the 2nd line with Pinto and Batherson, who combined had the same number of assists as DeBrincat going into the game.
- khawk

Correct, DJ Smith isn't putting him in the most ideal positions, in terms of linemates. But us Sens fans aren't surprised by this either.

As a Kings fan I can tell you the last thing you want is Tocchet coaching a young team as he heavily favors vets and like others have said would bench a guy like Domi in favor of Rinaldo at the end of the game. He kind of coaches like Esposito when he was the gm of the Rangers, just throw poop against the wall and something has to work out eventually right?

Apparently the word is out on Timmy Stu....play him rough to get him off his game and make him take a penalty.

Brannstrom got manhandled in front of his own net by some duck who moved him around at will and got position no matter where the puck went. He is skilled and moves the puck well and is playing better than last year but he is just too small.

a) he's being coached by DJ Smith
b) they've frequently kept him away from the team's best playmakers

Case in point, Tkachuk, Stutzle, and Giroux have 37A between them... DeBrincat started today's game on the 2nd line with Pinto and Batherson, who combined had the same number of assists as DeBrincat going into the game.
- khawk

That guy has been set up numerous times with grade A, 10 bell shooting opportunities and he fans or misses the net or drifts a weak, predictable shot to the goalie's pads or blocker or crest.

A lot of the people who were creaming their pants when he was traded for really don't want to wake up from their wet dream. The boys at TSN are now saying he's not just about scoring but has many facets to his game. They're even praising his "PHYSICAL" game. Unbelievable!

Apparently the word is out on Timmy Stu....play him rough to get him off his game and make him take a penalty.

Brannstrom got manhandled in front of his own net by some duck who moved him around at will and got position no matter where the puck went. He is skilled and moves the puck well and is playing better than last year but he is just too small.
- GrimmdaGoalie

Yes, he has to learn how to handle the special attention. Considering the attention he is getting, his numbers and play remains really positive. A bright light in a very poor start to the season.

I still like the +/- stats for giving a good indication of how a team is holding up.

Generally, it would appear that the 3rd and 4th line players are doing okay in playing out their role on the team. Top line players are getting beat on their +/- matchups. Sanderson is a very impressive +4. Chabot is -3 but it should not be too upsetting given the minutes and matchups he faces every night.

Sens are getting beat primarily because they are losing on the match up of top 6 players.

Yes, he has to learn how to handle the special attention. Considering the attention he is getting, his numbers and play remains really positive. A bright light in a very poor start to the season.
- spatso

He definitely isn't ready for the 1C role and like you and a few others have stated, he needs to handle the match ups/attention much better. He has been very inconsistent, but he's in his 3rd year but less than 100 games at center, so we need to be patient with him.

That guy has been set up numerous times with grade A, 10 bell shooting opportunities and he fans or misses the net or drifts a weak, predictable shot to the goalie's pads or blocker or crest.

A lot of the people who were creaming their pants when he was traded for really don't want to wake up from their wet dream. The boys at TSN are now saying he's not just about scoring but has many facets to his game. They're even praising his "PHYSICAL" game. Unbelievable!
- Whatisavailable

It's amazing how they spin doctor things the so-called experts lol.

He definitely isn't ready for the 1C role and like you and a few others have stated, he needs to handle the match ups/attention much better. He has been very inconsistent, but he's in his 3rd year but less than 100 games at center, so we need to be patient with him.
- LawyerSens4Life

Folks forget Pinto is a year older than Timmy. Pinto got a great early start playing third line minutes. Timmy, on the other hand, is getting star player attention. The kid is pretty good in the way that he battles through all the crap other teams are sending his way.

He is a point a game player. He is paying his dues. Soon enough the refs will start calling the cheap shots he has to take every night. Not complaining about the refs. Just the way it is. Kid has to prove he is worthy of star treatment.

Timmy still does not play a very good defensive game. But, he is going to be a great defensive player when he figures out how the game is supposed to be played at the NHL level. Sometimes I need to stop and remind myself how raw, awkward and soft he first looked. Getting harder and harder to knock him off his skates.

Folks forget Pinto is a year older than Timmy. Pinto got a great early start playing third line minutes. Timmy, on the other hand, is getting star player attention. The kid is pretty good in the way that he battles through all the crap other teams are sending his way.

He is a point a game player. He is paying his dues. Soon enough the refs will start calling the cheap shots he has to take every night. Not complaining about the refs. Just the way it is. Kid has to prove he is worthy of star treatment.

Timmy still does not play a very good defensive game. But, he is going to be a great defensive player when he figures out how the game is supposed to be played at the NHL level. Sometimes I need to stop and remind myself how raw, awkward and soft he first looked. Getting harder and harder to knock him off his skates.
- spatso

Stutzle is a battler for sure. He tries to do too much sometimes, but I prefer creativity to conservatism in the modern game, hope he doesn't lose that. I think his contract will age very well.

Stutzle is a battler for sure. He tries to do too much sometimes, but I prefer creativity to conservatism in the modern game, hope he doesn't lose that. I think his contract will age very well.
- Bartacus

Drafting of Jason Spezza at #2 (2001 draft) is probably not that great a comparison but it is interesting to make a general progress comparison with Stutzle's development.

When Spezza turned age 21, he had played 33 NHL games, scored 7 goals with 21 assists for a total of 28 points.

Draisaitl played 109 games with 21 goals 39 assists and 60 points before his 21st birthday.

Stutzle does not turn 21 for another 7 weeks (so another 20 games from now).

He has already played 152 NHL games, scored 42 goals and 65 assists for 107 points.

The gold standard is obviously McDavid who racked up points at the rate of 1.16 ppg before his 21st birthday. Stutzle is at .708 in the comparable age cycle. Kid is doing okay.

Kane 19GP 3G 12 A 15P -8
Cat 19GP 5G 11A 16P -7
- Mithos

20 games played
Kane 3 goals 13 assists 16 points Shooting % 4.9
Cat 5 goals 11 assists 16 points shooting % 7.0
What about my earlier post triggered you so?
Cat is a good/great player. Kane is an excellent/HOF player Whom on the current Hawks would you expect to bury his sweet passes. Kane and Cat worked really well together. But Kane is struggling without Cat. And Cat is struggling without Kane.
Carry on though. Just hope you don't get in the way of the Hawks for Bedard.(although currently you are)

So Giroux wins the faceoff back to Chabot who skates backwards a bit and then passes it up to Giroux who is not covered or under any pressure but he just taps it right back to Chabot who has someone coming in right on him. Chabot turns to move away from the checker and skates behind the net and into the corner. Giroux follows around behind the net so Chabot passes the puck to him so he can take it and skate but Giroux completely ignores the puck and just makes a break for it instead leaving Stutzle in the soup. Stutzle spins away from his check and throws the long breakaway pass. Giroux just left both Chabot and Stutzle in bad situations with his stupid plays but will end up getting praised because he scored the goal. I noticed that neither Chabot nor Stutzle were in the crowd congratulating Giroux.

I didnt see that win coming, but they've been off since Friday afternoon. A split on the roadie is solid. 10 points out of a wildcard spot with NYR on deck for back to back games.

So Giroux wins the faceoff back to Chabot who skates backwards a bit and then passes it up to Giroux who is not covered or under any pressure but he just taps it right back to Chabot who has someone coming in right on him. Chabot turns to move away from the checker and skates behind the net and into the corner. Giroux follows around behind the net so Chabot passes the puck to him so he can take it and skate but Giroux completely ignores the puck and just makes a break for it instead leaving Stutzle in the soup. Stutzle spins away from his check and throws the long breakaway pass. Giroux just left both Chabot and Stutzle in bad situations with his stupid plays but will end up getting praised because he scored the goal. I noticed that neither Chabot nor Stutzle were in the crowd congratulating Giroux.
- Whatisavailable

100% great on Giroux, but this idiot Creech on the postgame wont say the obvious about what really happened. This is very telling about what really happened in OT. To not see Chabot or Stutzle in the group congratulating says it all. But the likes of Gord or Bruce will never state this. Glad you said it.

100% great on Giroux, but this idiot Creech on the postgame wont say the obvious about what really happened. This is very telling about what really happened in OT. To not see Chabot or Stutzle in the group congratulating says it all. But the likes of Gord or Bruce will never state this. Glad you said it.
- LawyerSens4Life

This Creech character especially but a lot of the TSN regulars rag on Chabot constantly so I won't be surprised tomorrow on the TSN radio shows to hear about how Chabot made a mess in his own zone in OT but thanks to the quick thinking of Giroux making himself available for a pass and a nice pass from Stutzle the potential Chabot created disaster was turned into a victory.

What in the hell was Giroux doing out there? What could he have possibly been thinking?

watch the replay, Stu was in the scrum celebrating with Giroux, however that was a (frank) up play that ended well for OTT as if stu had not noticed Chabots pass it would have gone to the kings player and been a 3 on 2 in OTTs end also Giroux goal was lucky as if you look at the replay the puck skiped over his stick at the final deek and he just barely got enough of it that it hit the post and went in.

Luck is why OTT win this game pure and simple.

So Giroux wins the faceoff back to Chabot who skates backwards a bit and then passes it up to Giroux who is not covered or under any pressure but he just taps it right back to Chabot who has someone coming in right on him. Chabot turns to move away from the checker and skates behind the net and into the corner. Giroux follows around behind the net so Chabot passes the puck to him so he can take it and skate but Giroux completely ignores the puck and just makes a break for it instead leaving Stutzle in the soup. Stutzle spins away from his check and throws the long breakaway pass. Giroux just left both Chabot and Stutzle in bad situations with his stupid plays but will end up getting praised because he scored the goal. I noticed that neither Chabot nor Stutzle were in the crowd congratulating Giroux.
- Whatisavailable

Welcome to the world of 3 on 3 hockey. Welcome to the world of Timmy Superstar. Do you think they practiced that manoeuvre?

I didnt see that win coming, but they've been off since Friday afternoon. A split on the roadie is solid. 10 points out of a wildcard spot with NYR on deck for back to back games.
- LawyerSens4Life

Not in as bad a shape as I thought they would be. Much better balance in the middle of the pack this year. Right now 8th spot is held by Pittsburgh which is stumbling along at a 93 point season ending pace.

Sens are not not completely out of the mix but you are right to highlight those two games against Rangers. A strong winning percentage is needed in the games between now and Christmas if they are to keep any hope alive.

watch the replay, Stu was in the scrum celebrating with Giroux, however that was a (frank) up play that ended well for OTT as if stu had not noticed Chabots pass it would have gone to the kings player and been a 3 on 2 in OTTs end also Giroux goal was lucky as if you look at the replay the puck skiped over his stick at the final deek and he just barely got enough of it that it hit the post and went in.

Luck is why OTT win this game pure and simple.
- Mithos

It's nice to see the hockey gods smile on the Sens for a change. The DeBrincat goal also just squeaked in at the post. They even checked to make sure it somehow hadn't gone under the skirt of the net. On the Tkachuk goal the puck just deflected slightly off of a Kings' player on the point shot from Chabot, just missing the net and bouncing off the back boards just right for Tkachuk. There have been games when none of their 3 goals would have found the net.

By the way you're right about Stutzle being there to celebrate. Chabot was also there. As a matter of fact he was the first one there. What can I say? It was late, I was tired and that whole OT sequence didn't make any sense to me. I think Spatso must also be right about it being a practiced maneuver of some sort. Only way it makes any sense.

Welcome to the world of 3 on 3 hockey. Welcome to the world of Timmy Superstar. Do you think they practiced that manoeuvre?
- spatso

The idea that they practiced that maneuver appeals to me because I think Giroux is a good player and can't imagine him deliberately screwing over his team mates. I really hope that's true. Would go a long way to explaining what all three of them were doing below the goal line for a minute there. Well not Stutzle but he was close and going in the right direction to retrieve the pass from Chabot that Giroux skated right by.