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darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Dec 7 @ 9:39 PM ET
Thinking a 5th this season, depending on the market
- wcorvette


Knowing Fletch, we’ll need to add a 1st rounder to get a 5th.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 9:39 PM ET
Watched his highlights from the first month, looks pretty damn good
- ClaudeFather


Cutter right now might have more skill than any Hextall draft pick
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 7 @ 9:40 PM ET
Typical Torts through his career. Prevent instead of create.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
Typical Torts through his career. Prevent instead of create.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Other stops maybe different but the Flyers don’t have anyone who could create so prevent is their best option
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 7 @ 9:42 PM ET
Tage Thompson with 5 goal tonight??
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 7 @ 9:44 PM ET
Cutter right now might have more skill than any Hextall draft pick
- Fopa21

Thats not exactly saying much unfortunately
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 7 @ 9:49 PM ET
Is there really anything to say here? They play hard and their game has greatly improved since the start of the season, but they simply lack talent. Trade Frost for Tage Thompson tomorrow! In case people are wondering why I'm suggesting that this trade would be fair it's because Thompson was drafted 26th in his draft while Frost was drafted 27th. So please stop with the excuses! By the way, who decided to hire Scott Hartnell? He is brutal! Thanks!
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Dec 7 @ 9:50 PM ET
Other stops maybe different but the Flyers don’t have anyone who could create so prevent is their best option
- Fopa21


Agreed, this team has zero top end talent…plenty of bottom 6 forwards. Frost has played over 100 games in the NHL, he is not an NHL player. He will never be better than he is now and can’t play bottom 6 defensively. He is a good AHL player, should get callups only. We have a lot of good prospects that never got 10 games in the NHL and for some reason this guys chances are endless. He isn’t the only one, just an example of how bad this roster is.

Torts’ message (playing hard) is going to get old, probably before this team has any talent whatsoever.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 9:55 PM ET
Agreed, this team has zero top end talent…plenty of bottom 6 forwards. Frost has played over 100 games in the NHL, he is not an NHL player. He will never be better than he is now and can’t play bottom 6 defensively. He is a good AHL player, should get callups only. We have a lot of good prospects that never got 10 games in the NHL and for some reason this guys chances are endless. He isn’t the only one, just an example of how bad this roster is.

Torts’ message (playing hard) is going to get old, probably before this team has any talent whatsoever.

- darkerens


Such a shame too. Seems like a good kid & was rooting for him to break through but you’re exactly correct top line ahl player but no room in the show. Not able to produce in a top 6 role & not able to check in a bottom 6
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 7 @ 10:00 PM ET
Is there really anything to say here? They play hard and their game has greatly improved since the start of the season, but they simply lack talent. Trade Frost for Tage Thompson tomorrow! In case people are wondering why I'm suggesting that this trade would be fair it's because Thompson was drafted 26th in his draft while Frost was drafted 27th. So please stop with the excuses! By the way, who decided to hire Scott Hartnell? He is brutal! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

HARTNELL was brutal as usual.
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:02 PM ET
HARTNELL was brutal as usual.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


I like Hartsy but he was tough to listen to
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 10:02 PM ET
Is there really anything to say here? They play hard and their game has greatly improved since the start of the season, but they simply lack talent. Trade Frost for Tage Thompson tomorrow! In case people are wondering why I'm suggesting that this trade would be fair it's because Thompson was drafted 26th in his draft while Frost was drafted 27th. So please stop with the excuses! By the way, who decided to hire Scott Hartnell? He is brutal! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout


Goes to show you that tanking is not necessary to get talent. It takes a good scouting department & a GM who recognizes talent. Maybe like someone who drafted Karprizov in the 5th rd. Just saying
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Dec 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
Thats not exactly saying much unfortunately
- hereticpride


Curious to see how Gauthier does at WJC. At least, he hasn't disappointed.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
Tage Thompson with 5 goal tonight??
- SuperSchennBros

Looking at his past …he wasn’t a big point producer anywhere he went until last year….some guys just develop a little later on…it sure would be nice if the Flyers could un cover such a player…when I watched Ratcliffe, (who scored more coming up) that’s whom I compared him too.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
Curious to see how Gauthier does at WJC. At least, he hasn't disappointed.
- Trox88

Hopefully he uses it to spring board him into a solid finish to the year.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Dec 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
Without a doubt this team is more entertaining than years past. But, as in past years, this team has no top end talent. You can’t blame the players, they are who they are…if you were Risto would you sign that contract offer? The blame is squarely on Fletcher, he has run this team into the ground in every way possible.

On another note, is Ellis a real person? Because I can’t remember the last time I saw him or any media member asked about him. My question: “Did Ellis have his career ending injury when he has traded here or did his catastrophic career ending injury occur after he got here”? Is he even in the Philly area? Is he rehabbing, seeing doctors, retired while collecting a paycheck?
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 10:20 PM ET
For all the Seeler, Brown, Braun, NicD, McEwen, Sedlak are a joke talk & what a disgrace it is that a gm would sign these guys. These guys are the problem.
Seeler +5
Brown even
Braun even
Nic D -1
McEwen even
Sedlak +4

Yet
TK -9
Provy -6
Sanheim -6
Laughton -10

Maybe it’s time start talking about the “building pieces” being the problem
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Dec 7 @ 10:22 PM ET
I am glad the empty net padded the incredible Ovie stats
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 10:22 PM ET
Without a doubt this team is more entertaining than years past. But, as in past years, this team has no top end talent. You can’t blame the players, they are who they are…if you were Risto would you sign that contract offer? The blame is squarely on Fletcher, he has run this team into the ground in every way possible.

On another note, is Ellis a real person? Because I can’t remember the last time I saw him or any media member asked about him. My question: “Did Ellis have his career ending injury when he has traded here or did his catastrophic career ending injury occur after he got here”? Is he even in the Philly area?

- darkerens


Fletcher inherited a dumpster fire from hexy. No talented prospects in the system. Fletch has handed out some bad contracts no doubt but make no mistake hexy got us here
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 7 @ 10:27 PM ET
Without a doubt this team is more entertaining than years past. But, as in past years, this team has no top end talent. You can’t blame the players, they are who they are…if you were Risto would you sign that contract offer? The blame is squarely on Fletcher, he has run this team into the ground in every way possible.

On another note, is Ellis a real person? Because I can’t remember the last time I saw him or any media member asked about him. My question: “Did Ellis have his career ending injury when he has traded here or did his catastrophic career ending injury occur after he got here”? Is he even in the Philly area? Is he rehabbing, seeing doctors, retired while collecting a paycheck?

- darkerens
Agreed! I actually feel bad for Torts. He will get the most out of his players, but you can only get so much blood from a stone. Fletcher is a catastrophe as a GM. He is only a GM in this league because his father was very good at his craft. Unfortunately the apple falls VERY far from the tree in this case.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 7 @ 10:29 PM ET
Fletcher inherited a dumpster fire from hexy. No talented prospects in the system. Fletch has handed out some bad contracts no doubt but make no mistake hexy got us here
- Fopa21
Perhaps Hexy drove the bus to the edge of the cliff, but Chuckles drove it off the cliff into the abyss. Plenty of blame to go around including the last couple of years of Homer's tenure. A total disgrace I say.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 7 @ 10:30 PM ET

Time to get those heat maps back out. It’s one thing to not actually score, but to not be attempting enough shots from the net front and slot is just oof! Also the best shooters should shoot and shoot more often.

Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 7 @ 10:32 PM ET
Perhaps Hexy drove the bus to the edge of the cliff, but Chuckles drove it off the cliff into the abyss. Plenty of blame to go around including the last couple of years of Homer's tenure. A total disgrace I say.
- Phillywhiteout


Unfortunately drafting is a process. Rarely do draft picks burst onto the scene right away so unfortunately where Hexy left us there was only one direction to go before some of chucks draft picks showed up to restart everything.

Next year should see cutter york & a few others
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Dec 7 @ 10:34 PM ET
Who has more goals against us? Ovi or crosbich?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Dec 7 @ 10:35 PM ET
Unfortunately drafting is a process. Rarely do draft picks burst onto the scene right away so unfortunately where Hexy left us there was only one direction to go before some of chucks draft picks showed up to restart everything.

Next year should see cutter york & a few others

- Fopa21
One can only hope, but I would love to switch out York for a guy named Caufield that Chuckles passed on twice.
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