Not all coaches prioritize winning completely over player development. There is a balance. When you bring in someone like Torterella, who very well could be in his last coaching gig. It's going to be about his legacy.
- MJL

The blocking pucks legacy. 🫠

Wouldn't be difficult. Two out of the last 4 Flyers coaches did so.
- MJL

Like who, Hakstol, who played Vandevelde for 78 games

The blocking pucks legacy. 🫠
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Like this flyers stint has any impact on his legacy. Taking over the laughing stock of the league, this won’t even be mentioned or they will say what was he thinking

Like who, Hakstol, who played Vandevelde for 78 games
- ClaudeFather

Ugh yea, and Weise starting in OT

I thought Hayes would be apart of this team for the length of his contract. Now I wouldn't be shocked if he's dealt in the off season.
- Aaron_85

Probably suffer a mysterious injury that can’t be cured….and slide into LTIR. Can watch all the games with Atkinson and Coots from the press box or from his couch like Ellis does.

Ugh yea, and Weise starting in OT
- THE EVIL WITHIN

It’s just pure Franking nonsense. All coaches do so for the now. They give young players chances but it’s a short leash. You might see some extended time in March when a team is out of playoff race for good. Torts has given Morgan frost and Tippett significant time this year to sort through it and find their game as well. Along with Cates, you could even say he’s developing him haha

Like who, Hakstol, who played Vandevelde for 78 games
- ClaudeFather

VDV….back when we were mediocre…the good old days.

VDV….back when we were mediocre…the good old days.
- landros 2

Mediocre and picking around 20th overall, another successful game plan for this organization

The right coach would've but they needed someone to market.
- MJL

“The right coach” would take one look at this mess of a front office and not come here.

You’re living in a fantasy land. All coaches coach for the now.
- ClaudeFather

Do you mean they coach for the now as in "the current roster"? If so then I agree. You can't take a bunch of kids and have Stanley cup aspirations. Some coaches most definitely are better with young players and for good reason. They allow them to make mistakes and put them into situations to learn in, like protecting a lead in the final minute.

Remember wheb you wanted Yandle over York last year now it’s about playing the kids 😂 🤡
- Fopa21

It wasn't too long ago someone made a post similar to this about you and I told them to keep it on the hockey. You saw the post, commented on it so there no leash for you to do it to someone else.

“The right coach” would take one look at this mess of a front office and not come here.
- hereticpride

This is how a fan looks at this situation.

Do you mean they coach for the now as in "the current roster"? If so then I agree. You can't take a bunch of kids and have Stanley cup aspirations. Some coaches most definitely are better with young players and for good reason. They allow them to make mistakes and put them into situations to learn in, like protecting a lead in the final minute.
- Aaron_85

As in they are trying to win every game, and that most likely means playing a veteran over a prospect. The coaches job is not guaranteed, he’s not putting development over a better chance to win. You can argue if Macewan gives you a better chance to win over a Lacynzki, but that’s not the point I’m making

Probably suffer a mysterious injury that can’t be cured….and slide into LTIR. Can watch all the games with Atkinson and Coots from the press box or from his couch like Ellis does.
- landros 2

Atkinson ready for opening night 2023-24

Ugh yea, and Weise starting in OT
- THE EVIL WITHIN

That Hakstol guy scratching #4 overall pick Shane Wright 🤔

He just complains to complain. Doesn’t matter the side. Will flip flop just to complain

“The right coach” would take one look at this mess of a front office and not come here.
- hereticpride

I think you’re right but if you look at their situation realistically, most successful teams, Stanley Cup teams, had to go through some years of dysfunction and losing in order to get better, it’s the way the systems setup. It’s just our time. We haven’t had to go through a lot of this. Yes things are a mess but the teams current state should, not a guarantee, but should, help the future. One can only hope.

I think you’re right but if you look at their situation realistically, most successful teams, Stanley Cup teams, had to go through some years of dysfunction and losing in order to get better, it’s the way the systems setup. It’s just our time. We haven’t had to go through a lot of this. Yes things are a mess but the teams current state should, not a guarantee, but should, help the future. One can only hope.
- Dave21Brown

If Coaches turned down every offer that wasn’t good enough for them, bottom feeder teams wouldn’t have coaches.

If Coaches turned down every offer that wasn’t good enough for them, bottom feeder teams wouldn’t have coaches.
- SuperSchennBros

True, which kinda lends itself into what I’m saying. Great coaches will probably avoid a situation like what’s going on here, other coaches, good coaches, just want in the league and won’t care. They just wanna coach at the highest level.

Wow, Sedlak bounced? And Hayes healthy scratched? What a gong show.

I think you’re right but if you look at their situation realistically, most successful teams, Stanley Cup teams, had to go through some years of dysfunction and losing in order to get better, it’s the way the systems setup. It’s just our time. We haven’t had to go through a lot of this. Yes things are a mess but the teams current state should, not a guarantee, but should, help the future. One can only hope.
- Dave21Brown

The man your username is based on, is a piece of the problem.

They are all scum as far as I am concerned. On a professional level of course

Wow, Sedlak bounced? And Hayes healthy scratched? What a gong show.
- Tomahawk

Don't leave out Atkinson being placed on IR. Can't wait to hear the update from the used car salesman GM.

The man your username is based on, is a piece of the problem.

They are all scum as far as I am concerned. On a professional level of course
- FlyerFan3260

Certainly agree here. Why would ANY organization have a guy like Dave Brown as the head scout? He probably wouldn't have made it to the NHL if he couldn't fight.

As in they are trying to win every game, and that most likely means playing a veteran over a prospect. The coaches job is not guaranteed, he’s not putting development over a better chance to win. You can argue if Macewan gives you a better chance to win over a Lacynzki, but that’s not the point I’m making
- ClaudeFather

They are trying to win every game I agree. However the development can happen and still try to win every game. I would venture that it depends on who has personnel decisions. Some coaches don't get that power. I remember it being a thing when Babcock came to Toronto that he had all of that power alone. It would suggest some coaches dont.

I do think Torts has that power here. I also find it odd Torts took this job but I guess noone else was calling and he wanted back in the league.
I dont think he's a good development coach.

If we’re trying to tank why is Hayes sitting

Wow, Sedlak bounced? And Hayes healthy scratched? What a gong show.
- Tomahawk

He had seen is fiancé in forever. I can understand this dumpster fire isn’t worth it