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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 29 @ 9:58 AM ET
Looked like #88 last night getting caught with his head down.
- Tomahawk


Did he get wrecked bad?

At first looked like a chicken wing, but that was all shoulder.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 29 @ 10:02 AM ET
Did he get wrecked bad?

At first looked like a chicken wing, but that was all shoulder.

- Glak18


It was helmet on helmet.

Fantilli looked down to receive the puck going across the middle.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:03 AM ET
It was helmet on helmet.

Fantilli looked down to receive the puck going across the middle.

- Tomahawk


Yeah bouncing puck and yes the helmet was the primary contact. Not sure what to think.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
If Fletcher's Flyers lose tonight in regulation they will drop to 29th place.

Why don't the beat writers write stories every day asking how he still has his job?
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
If Fletcher's Flyers lose tonight in regulation they will drop to 29th place.

Why don't the beat writers write stories every day asking how he still has his job?

- Feanor


Partly because they know he was left w zero talent & a dumpster fire maybe. He’s not the greatest but not the main to blame for this mess
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
For all the Risto bashers & the Provy apologists. Risto has just 1 less goal than provy & a better plus minus
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
If Fletcher's Flyers lose tonight in regulation they will drop to 29th place.

Why don't the beat writers write stories every day asking how he still has his job?

- Feanor


The Flyers need young skilled stars, so they need to draft those. To draft those players the team needs to lose. So the team is losing.

So what the (frank) do you want? A new GM is going to come in and trade everyone to bring in superstars? I want to meet that new GM.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Partly because they know he was left w zero talent & a dumpster fire maybe. He’s not the greatest but not the main to blame for this mess
- Fopa21


Hayes, Ellis, Atkinson.... Gostisbehere trade, Ristolainen trade and extension.

Fletcher has burned the franchise to the ground.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Partly because they know he was left w zero talent & a dumpster fire maybe. He’s not the greatest but not the main to blame for this mess
- Fopa21


How did they have the league's 6th best record in 19-20 if they had zero talent?

If you check who led that team in scoring, 8 of the top 10 were there when Chuck took over.

Konency - 61 P in 66 GP
Couturier - 59 in 69
Voracek - 56 in 69
Giroux - 53 in 69
Hayes - 41 in 69
JVR - 40 in 66
Provorov - 36 in 69
Niskanen - 33 in 68
Laughton - 27 in 49
Sanheim - 25 in 69

Fletcher has been in charge for 4 years and 26 days. That's an eternity in the NHL.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Dec 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
If Fletcher's Flyers lose tonight in regulation they will drop to 29th place.

Why don't the beat writers write stories every day asking how he still has his job?

- Feanor

What place would you prefer the Flyers be in this year? The Flyers as an organization have come to realize what they are and understand that this year is about getting a top pick. Fletcher will be gone in the off-season no doubt.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
If any of the other 31 teams drafts him: McDavid lite

If the Flyers draft him: Nolan Patrick

- Tomahawk


Sorry but if the Flyers get Bedard, I refuse to be anything except joyful.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
What place would you prefer the Flyers be in this year? The Flyers as an organization have come to realize what they are and understand that this year is about getting a top pick. Fletcher will be gone in the off-season no doubt.
- jd250


I'd prefer they still had their 2023 2nd which will be around 36th overall. But it was traded, along with the 14th overall pick in 2021, for a 3rd pair dman with 1 point in 28 games.

https://www.capfriendly.c...layers/rasmus-ristolainen

Fletcher also traded the 36th overall pick in 2022 to make room for Risto.

https://www.capfriendly.c...ayers/shayne-gostisbehere
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
I'd prefer they still had their 2023 2nd which will be around 36th overall. But it was traded, along with the 14th overall pick in 2021, for a 3rd pair dman with 1 point in 28 games.

https://www.capfriendly.c...layers/rasmus-ristolainen

Fletcher also traded the 36th overall pick in 2022 to make room for Risto.

https://www.capfriendly.c...ayers/shayne-gostisbehere

- Feanor


You are talking like the Flyers problems started when Fletcher was hired, they are in the same mess they were 10 years ago.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'd prefer they still had their 2023 2nd which will be around 36th overall. But it was traded, along with the 14th overall pick in 2021, for a 3rd pair dman with 1 point in 28 games.

https://www.capfriendly.c...layers/rasmus-ristolainen

Fletcher also traded the 36th overall pick in 2022 to make room for Risto.

https://www.capfriendly.c...ayers/shayne-gostisbehere

- Feanor


Risto has 1 less goal than franchise darling provy & a better plus minus. If one sucks they both have to. Where is the hate for Provy? Of right the only homegrown guy ppl pick on is Frost. Never provy laughton sanheim or company
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
Partly because they know he was left w zero talent & a dumpster fire maybe. He’s not the greatest but not the main to blame for this mess
- Fopa21


Have you seen the team since he took over? This will be the worst three year span in the history of the team. The team is made up of primarily players he acquired or signed to extensions. Most of the current situation falls squarely on CF.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
What place would you prefer the Flyers be in this year? The Flyers as an organization have come to realize what they are and understand that this year is about getting a top pick. Fletcher will be gone in the off-season no doubt.
- jd250


Misses the point of the comment that you replied to. I'll believe Fletcher will be gone when I see it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Risto has 1 less goal than franchise darling provy & a better plus minus. If one sucks they both have to. Where is the hate for Provy? Of right the only homegrown guy ppl pick on is Frost. Never provy laughton sanheim or company
- Fopa21


Wut?

Ppl have ripped those other players for years. That's all we do around here, rip on everybody and everything.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
You are talking like the Flyers problems started when Fletcher was hired, they are in the same mess they were 10 years ago.
- Glak18



The Flyers were not in the same mess they're in now under Hextall.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
Misses the point of the comment that you replied to. I'll believe Fletcher will be gone when I see it.
- MJL


Amen. I do not think he is completely removed from the franchise until he chooses to be.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 29 @ 10:43 AM ET
The Flyers were not in the same mess they're in now under Hextall.
- MJL


Hahaha. Hextall left ZERO prospects & aging veterans that he didn’t want to build around because he wanted to be patient & build through the draft, which he failed miserably at, & waste prime years of players here.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
Hahaha. Hextall left ZERO prospects & aging veterans that he didn’t want to build around because he wanted to be patient & build through the draft, which he failed miserably at, & waste prime years of players here.
- Fopa21


Ask any GM in the world which "mess" of a situation they would take over. Fletcher's or Hextall's? I would bet 100% would take the situation Hextall left.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
The Flyers need young skilled stars, so they need to draft those. To draft those players the team needs to lose. So the team is losing.

So what the (frank) do you want? A new GM is going to come in and trade everyone to bring in superstars? I want to meet that new GM.

- Glak18


The GM wasn't trying to lose this season. If he was, he wouldn't have traded a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th for Tony Angelo.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
Risto has 1 less goal than franchise darling provy & a better plus minus. If one sucks they both have to. Where is the hate for Provy? Of right the only homegrown guy ppl pick on is Frost. Never provy laughton sanheim or company
- Fopa21


I criticize Provorov all the time, and would like to see him traded so York can play the left side in the top 4.

That doesn't alter the fact that Fletcher's record as Flyers GM is atrocious.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
You are talking like the Flyers problems started when Fletcher was hired, they are in the same mess they were 10 years ago.
- Glak18


The Flyers finished 29th last season and are in 28th place right now. Please tell me the last time they had two seasons that bad in a row, because it was not 10 years ago. 10 years ago they finished 4th overall in 2011-12, and then 20th overall in 2013.

And to make matters worse, Fletcher has traded away multiple high value draft picks while running a bottom 5 team.
Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

Dec 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
Ask any GM in the world which "mess" of a situation they would take over. Fletcher's or Hextall's? I would bet 100% would take the situation Hextall left.
- mickel25


They might because it is like basically starting over because the previous bonehead GM accomplished nothing. But that would take getting understanding fans who realize starting over takes a decent amount of time to rebuild prospect pool & put together a team. Kind of like
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