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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
Right. They need 2 guys to add to the pp that are shooters/pp producers. The personnel hasn't been changed or added to in any meaningful way. And yes, unfortunately Wally isn't that guy.
- Mancalledsting

Dobson’s maturation has helped. Imagine if we didn’t have him. Not really sure what’s running through their minds when they are not moving, completely motionless, and not moving the puck on the PP? If it were an occasional thing I wouldn’t mention it. This has been a five season thing
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
Dobson’s maturation has helped. Imagine if we didn’t have him. Not really sure what’s running through their minds when they are not moving, completely motionless, and not moving the puck on the PP? If it were an occasional thing I wouldn’t mention it. This has been a five season thing
- Cptmjl

If they could find a way to make it work with the cap, Vrana is on waivers on would be a very good pickup. His $5.25M cap hit (it wouldn't be that much, it'd be prorated) would be a bit tough to squeeze in but sending Johnston to the minors (and ideally having him scooped up off waivers) would create $1M in additional space

Unlikely that a) they want to use significant cap space on him and b) he doesn't get claimed by a team below the Isles in the standings. But he'd be a good add.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
If they could find a way to make it work with the cap, Vrana is on waivers on would be a very good pickup. His $5.25M cap hit (it wouldn't be that much, it'd be prorated) would be a bit tough to squeeze in but sending Johnston to the minors (and ideally having him scooped up off waivers) would create $1M in additional space

Unlikely that a) they want to use significant cap space on him and b) he doesn't get claimed by a team below the Isles in the standings. But he'd be a good add.

- eichiefs9

Interesting idea. Didn’t realize they put him on waivers. Like you said I doubt they want to use significant cap space on him but he’s “free” so that makes him more attractive.
gizzy77
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:30 PM ET
Vrana worth a look if nobody else claims him.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
Interesting idea. Didn’t realize they put him on waivers. Like you said I doubt they want to use significant cap space on him but he’s “free” so that makes him more attractive.
- Cptmjl


It seems as though the entire hockey world is surprised by it as well.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
It seems as though the entire hockey world is surprised by it as well.
- Wildschwein

He was in the Players Assistance Program. Drug issues? Mental health? He hasn't said.
https://theathletic.com/4...googlesearch?redirected=1
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
It seems as though the entire hockey world is surprised by it as well.
- Wildschwein

What are we going to get back for Beauvillier?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
He was in the Players Assistance Program. Drug issues? Mental health? He hasn't said.
https://theathletic.com/4...googlesearch?redirected=1

- JohnScammo


Nobody knows.

But perhaps Vrana was waived because:

A) Stevie knows contenders can’t afford him.

B) Stevie knows the basement dwellers wanna win Bedard, and Vrana won’t help them accomplish that.

C) Stevie knows that his reputation as a brilliant GM, will make any pretender afraid to claim a player that Stevie himself is “willing” to give up for nothing.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:05 PM ET
What are we going to get back for Beauvillier?
- Cptmjl


Lafrenière. Via Montreal.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 5:17 PM ET
Lafrenière. Via Montreal.
- Wildschwein



I don’t think that kid is going to be a bust. I doubt very much Drury trades him. I think Ranger fans are nuts that believe trading him now is a good idea.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:21 PM ET


I don’t think that kid is going to be a bust. I doubt very much Drury trades him. I think Ranger fans are nuts that believe trading him now is a good idea.

- Cptmjl


I hope to God that Drury DOES trade him. Then we’ll all get the satisfaction of watching him blossom somewhere else.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 5:35 PM ET
I hope to God that Drury DOES trade him. Then we’ll all get the satisfaction of watching him blossom somewhere else.
- Wildschwein

One gazillion %
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 3 @ 5:35 PM ET
I hope to God that Drury DOES trade him. Then we’ll all get the satisfaction of watching him blossom somewhere else.
- Wildschwein


Lafrenière for Wally.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:48 PM ET
Lafrenière for Wally.

- ses111


If only.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 3 @ 6:04 PM ET
If only.
- Wildschwein


Two high #1 picks and struggling forwards. It's perfect. We need more of these type of trades.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
https://ca.sports.yahoo.c...rd-183606447.html?src=rss

"Suck hard for Bedard!" We're not even in the conversation. 1 in 200 chance doesn't cut it! We need more games like we played against Seattle and Arizona. Start tonight against the Canucks. You can do it, Islanders!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-tanking-rankings-whos-in-prime-position-to-secure-connor-bedard-183606447.html?src=rss

"Suck hard for Bedard!" We're not even in the conversation. 1 in 200 chance doesn't cut it! We need more games like we played against Seattle and Arizona. Start tonight against the Canucks. You can do it, Islanders!

- JohnScammo

Not sure if they have it in them. Though I have complete confidence in them to potentially miss the playoffs and get a mid round pick
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 3 @ 7:24 PM ET
Not sure if they have it in them. Though I have complete confidence in them to potentially miss the playoffs and get a mid round pick
- Cptmjl


They’d damned well better win on Thursday.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
They’d damned well better win on Thursday.
- Wildschwein

Winnable games. Varlamov seems to take a few games to adjust after coming back. I’m sure that has more to do with whatever he injured. Hopefully he doesn’t need it this time because he’ll be playing at least one of these next three.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
Not sure if they have it in them. Though I have complete confidence in them to potentially miss the playoffs and get a mid round pick
- Cptmjl

Stuck in mediocrity. That's been their curse, other than the 2 deep playoff runs.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 3 @ 10:14 PM ET
Stuck in mediocrity. That's been their curse, other than the 2 deep playoff runs.
- JohnScammo



Agreed, total mediocrity under this regime. Fire everyone!
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jan 3 @ 10:17 PM ET
Fantastic start. Keep up the good work boys!!
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 3 @ 10:18 PM ET
Agreed, total mediocrity under this regime. Fire everyone!
- nyisles7



Meanwhile, great to see the Isles picking up where they left off against Seattle....
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 3 @ 10:23 PM ET
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 3 @ 10:27 PM ET

- nyisles7

Maybe that would wake them up...

Canucks are skating circles around them. They're just so much quicker...
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