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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
Nice win after an abortion of a first period

Bailey looked especially rough last night. Raty's got a hell of a shot, hopefully he can make the team full-time next year...although I'm not entirely sure where he's going to fit if they are intent on keeping him at center.

- eichiefs9

I think Lambert’s willingness to throw cizikas on the wing tells you their position on that. Never thought I would see that happen but good on lambert it seems to be working for the time being and that’s all we can ask for with our injuries. Bailey is well Josh Bailey. I can’t believe we have him for another year. What a horrible (frank)ing contract
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 10:02 AM ET
I think Lambert’s willingness to throw cizikas on the wing tells you their position on that. Never thought I would see that happen but good on lambert it seems to be working for the time being and that’s all we can ask for with our injuries. Bailey is well Josh Bailey. I can’t believe we have him for another year. What a horrible (frank)ing contract
- Cptmjl

To be clear...I don't expect it to happen, but the idea of buying him out in June isn't the worst. It would save them $2.33M next year and cost them $1.66M the following year. By the time the cap savings becomes negative the cap will have almost certainly taken that big jump everyone is waiting for.

I don't think Lou would give the longest-tenured Islander such an unceremonious ending but something's gotta give eventually.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 10:28 AM ET
To be clear...I don't expect it to happen, but the idea of buying him out in June isn't the worst. It would save them $2.33M next year and cost them $1.66M the following year. By the time the cap savings becomes negative the cap will have almost certainly taken that big jump everyone is waiting for.

I don't think Lou would give the longest-tenured Islander such an unceremonious ending but something's gotta give eventually.

- eichiefs9

If push comes to shove and he has to do it he will. He’s certainly loyal to his players but throughout his career he has made some pretty brash decisions. Some can argue whether they were beneficial to whatever team he was the GM for at the time. The bottom line is it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he did it if he needed to clear space. I would say being able to clear space has been arguably his biggest challenge since becoming our GM. At least that I can decipher with the little info all of us have.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 4 @ 10:41 AM ET
Mayfield with his patented Bryan McCabe can opener. I thought we might make it a night without seeing his toothless surprise at being called for a penalty.
- keaner17




"WHAT'D I DO???"

"Ah, Scott, you're still holding his decapitated head..."
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
I think Lambert’s willingness to throw cizikas on the wing tells you their position on that. Never thought I would see that happen but good on lambert it seems to be working for the time being and that’s all we can ask for with our injuries. Bailey is well Josh Bailey. I can’t believe we have him for another year. What a horrible (frank)ing contract
- Cptmjl


Would not have minded Casey or Leo switching spots during the Tampa series.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:11 AM ET
To be clear...I don't expect it to happen, but the idea of buying him out in June isn't the worst. It would save them $2.33M next year and cost them $1.66M the following year. By the time the cap savings becomes negative the cap will have almost certainly taken that big jump everyone is waiting for.

I don't think Lou would give the longest-tenured Islander such an unceremonious ending but something's gotta give eventually.

- eichiefs9


Have to think some team would trade for him this offseason with only a year left on his deal?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:14 AM ET
Have to think some team would trade for him this offseason with only a year left on his deal?

- ses111

No I don’t think have to think that’ll happen even at his reduced rate of 3.5 million
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
If push comes to shove and he has to do it he will. He’s certainly loyal to his players but throughout his career he has made some pretty brash decisions. Some can argue whether they were beneficial to whatever team he was the GM for at the time. The bottom line is it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he did it if he needed to clear space. I would say being able to clear space has been arguably his biggest challenge since becoming our GM. At least that I can decipher with the little info all of us have.
- Cptmjl


Not being able to sign a top FA has been a long time problem for all the Islanders. Still do not know how Lou did not even speak to JG this offseason?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
Would not have minded Casey or Leo switching spots during the Tampa series.
- ses111

I hated Leo on Barzal’s wing just as much as anyone else. With that said I think it’s at the point you may want to talk to somebody about this
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
No I don’t think have to think that’ll happen even at his reduced rate of 3.5 million
- Cptmjl


Would be very bad if they still could not move him. I would just keep him for the year instead of a buyout and bench him or play him 3rd or 4th line.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
Not being able to sign a top FA has been a long time problem for all the Islanders. Still do not know how Lou did not even speak to JG this offseason?
- ses111

Taxes, arenas, and dressing rooms my friend.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
Would be very bad if they still could not move him. I would just keep him for the year instead of a buyout and bench him or play him 3rd or 4th line.
- ses111

If he’s moved it’ll be part of a package which will hurt the value of whatever else we’re trading.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
Taxes, arenas, and dressing rooms my friend.
- Cptmjl



I guess. That was such a bad look when JG broke the news he never heard from the Islanders.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:20 AM ET
I hated Leo on Barzal’s wing just as much as anyone else. With that said I think it’s at the point you may want to talk to somebody about this
- Cptmjl


I should have talked to Ledecky. It worked very well the first time.



For such a good coach, Barry could be darn frustrating with his lineup decisions and offensive gameplan.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
I guess. That was such a bad look when JG broke the news he never heard from the Islanders.
- ses111

For whom?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Taxes, arenas, and dressing rooms my friend.
- Cptmjl

Plus violins and cellos
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
For whom?
- Cptmjl


For the Islanders silly.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 4 @ 11:49 AM ET
Nice win after an abortion of a first period

Bailey looked especially rough last night. Raty's got a hell of a shot, hopefully he can make the team full-time next year...although I'm not entirely sure where he's going to fit if they are intent on keeping him at center.

- eichiefs9

Well cizikas is a good winger lol but yea someone will have to move to wing like barzal
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 4 @ 11:50 AM ET


"WHAT'D I DO???"

"Ah, Scott, you're still holding his decapitated head..."

- UIF

Scott Mayfield has never taken a penalty in his life, just ask him he will tell you
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
Well cizikas is a good winger lol but yea someone will have to move to wing like barzal
- Upstate_isles


Have to think Raty could play wing if needed? Barzal seems best as Center with his playmaking ability.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Well cizikas is a good winger lol but yea someone will have to move to wing like barzal
- Upstate_isles

I still don't hate the idea of trying it out at some point. But I'm not sure Raty is going to be so good at center (right off the bat, anyway) that it would justify moving Barzal to the wing. I'd do it if they acquired someone like Horvat/O'Reilly/etc... though
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I still don't hate the idea of trying it out at some point. But I'm not sure Raty is going to be so good at center (right off the bat, anyway) that it would justify moving Barzal to the wing. I'd do it if they acquired someone like Horvat/O'Reilly/etc... though
- eichiefs9


i would not mind Raty as 1RW with Barzal especially if Raty does have a good shot. Barzal can use that. I do not like the Islanders chances of signing or trading for an impact forward.


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
i would not mind Raty as 1RW with Barzal especially if Raty does have a good shot. Barzal can use that. I do not like the Islanders chances of signing or trading for an impact forward.
- ses111

I don't think any of us would mind it, but Lou and the coaching staff seem like they want to develop Raty as a center. Stinks in the short term but given the lack of organizational depth at center it's probably smart for the future.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
Well cizikas is a good winger lol but yea someone will have to move to wing like barzal
- Upstate_isles



Honestly, Casey is taking many FO's and also if you watch Him and Barzal in the D zone and Casey is taking the draw then Barzal ultimately takes on the wingers responsibilities. They are playing very well together and typically a veteran counterman has an easy time playing the wing than visa versa. Nice to have 2 centers out there being able to take the FO on their strong side.

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
I don't think any of us would mind it, but Lou and the coaching staff seem like they want to develop Raty as a center. Stinks in the short term but given the lack of organizational depth at center it's probably smart for the future.
- eichiefs9


I'm thinking Raty staying as C for the rest of the year is a long shot? Casey and Barzal has been a nice fit so far.
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