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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:35 AM ET
I take offense to your personal list! Lol
- Aaron_85


That is such a Maple Leaf fan reaction. HAHA
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 4 @ 9:39 AM ET
I take offense to your personal list! Lol
- Aaron_85


Montreal would be at the top of my personal trade-to list. IDC about the team at all but the city seems like an awesome place to live. Especially if you have Kevin Hayes $ to throw around.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 9:43 AM ET
Haven’t watched a second of the world juniors yet but Canada vs US is tonight, no?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:44 AM ET
Haven’t watched a second of the world juniors yet but Canada vs US is tonight, no?
- SuperSchennBros


Only on the NHL Network. Way to grow the game NHL

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 9:53 AM ET
Is this "others" the same sources that you claimed to have said that Ristolainen is having his best NHL season? You were asked to produce one source that has said that, and you failed to do so.

The numbers for Ristolainen have been provided for you in a previous conversation. There is no improvement.

- MJL

There are a number of sources, starting with the those who broadcast for the team, and those who write for the team or various podcasts like Flyers talk or Flyers daily.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 9:54 AM ET
It might be. Hayes still can play though so he's not a full cap dump. I definitely could see a 2nd going with him though.
- Aaron_85

Do we have any 2nd round picks left?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 9:57 AM ET
The issues in coverage and play anticipation still exist. The Flyers play a passive low zone collapse around the net defensively. Rather than a man to man coverage where a defender is more likely to roam.
- MJL

I dislike man2man coverages in your own zone. We saw what this looked like under AV and Yeo and IMO it was a complete disaster; defenseman following players all the way up to their own blue line at times, blown net-front coverages, overloading on one side, etc. I like the coverage system Tort's employs much, much more, with an emphasis of stopping plays, filling passing and shooting lanes and keeping pucks to the outside.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 9:58 AM ET
Which PO teams are looking for "slow", "east-west" players who "turn the puck over" for their bottom-six tho?


- Tomahawk

Uhhmmm ....
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 9:59 AM ET
Why does Tortorella like Provorov, DeAngelo and Farabee then? They all turn the puck over more than Hayes does.

Hayes is not a slow player and there are numerous players in the lineup who don't skate as well as Hayes does.

- MJL

Name a forward in the current Flyers forward group that does not skate as well or better than Hayes?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 4 @ 10:03 AM ET
Only on the NHL Network. Way to grow the game NHL
- mickel25


??

Isn't the NHL Network standard on cable/satellite services?
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 4 @ 10:04 AM ET
What would everyones 12 team NTC look like?

Arizona
All seven Canadian teams
Dallas
Florida
Buffalo
CBJ

- mickel25


on the tax benefit alone I would think Dallas and all Florida teams have to be on the list...that is a lot of extra coin
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 4 @ 10:06 AM ET
Uhhmmm ....
- jd250


There are a number of pretty good two-way centers who are impending UFAs this summer who would likely be prime TDL targets... Toews, Monahan, Horvat, Larkin, ROR, Eller and more:

https://www.capfriendly.c...ter/ufa?stats-season=2023

Hayes is gonna be a tough tough sell.


RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jan 4 @ 10:07 AM ET
??

Isn't the NHL Network standard on cable/satellite services?

- Scoob


I think it is part of a sports tier or upgrade, not on basic for the Flyers Ownership Cable Snake Co
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 10:08 AM ET
There are a number of sources, starting with the those who broadcast for the team, and those who write for the team or various podcasts like Flyers talk or Flyers daily.
- jd250


Link one source. Just one.

There is no reputable source that would embarass themselves by making that statement.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 10:09 AM ET
Name a forward in the current Flyers forward group that does not skate as well or better than Hayes?
- jd250


Deslauriers, Brown. Hayes is an equal skater to Farabee, Konecny and Cates. Hayes is not a slow skater.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 10:12 AM ET
I dislike man2man coverages in your own zone. We saw what this looked like under AV and Yeo and IMO it was a complete disaster; defenseman following players all the way up to their own blue line at times, blown net-front coverages, overloading on one side, etc. I like the coverage system Tort's employs much, much more, with an emphasis of stopping plays, filling passing and shooting lanes and keeping pucks to the outside.
- jd250


Tortotrella's defensive system is not effective. It is archaic. There are many top teams that play man to man coverage.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jan 4 @ 10:33 AM ET
There are a number of pretty good two-way centers who are impending UFAs this summer who would likely be prime TDL targets... Toews, Monahan, Horvat, Larkin, ROR, Eller and more:

https://www.capfriendly.c...ter/ufa?stats-season=2023

Hayes is gonna be a tough tough sell.

- Tomahawk


Dylan Larkin is only 26 years old? I have to believe a few of those guys will be deadline rentals. A few retirements.

I think we are stuck with Hayes unless he is added as part of a larger deal.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 10:40 AM ET
There are a number of sources, starting with the those who broadcast for the team, and those who write for the team or various podcasts like Flyers talk or Flyers daily.
- jd250


Risto is bigly bad, but this season is his least bad.


Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 4 @ 10:43 AM ET
Do we have any 2nd round picks left?
- jd250


I had to check, 2025! SIGNED SEALED AND DELIVERED!

Two thirds this year but if the management wants to re-tool/rebuild/whatever then they likely want as many picks in this draft.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 10:44 AM ET
He's also never been more useful on defense. Thanks Torts.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 10:44 AM ET
Do we have any 2nd round picks left?
- jd250


We appreciate your generosity.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
There are a number of pretty good two-way centers who are impending UFAs this summer who would likely be prime TDL targets... Toews, Monahan, Horvat, Larkin, ROR, Eller and more:

https://www.capfriendly.c...ter/ufa?stats-season=2023

Hayes is gonna be a tough tough sell.

- Tomahawk


I will restate my original statement from weeks ago. Hayes is likely a flyer next year. Especially after checking his contract. He's owed 6.5 in salary and then 4/4 in the remaining two years. He isn't cheap. To be fair, he's still a NHL player. Teams don't totally tank and ONLY play prospects/young players. They fill out around NHL players. I think it's better to keep him and move him in 2024 summer.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
That is such a Maple Leaf fan reaction. HAHA
- mickel25


Ba dum tish!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 4 @ 10:47 AM ET
I think it is part of a sports tier or upgrade, not on basic for the Flyers Ownership Cable Snake Co
- RajaAmpat


Got it - thanks
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Deslauriers, Brown. Hayes is an equal skater to Farabee, Konecny and Cates. Hayes is not a slow skater.
- MJL

Not sure about Brown, but I think Deslauriers is a faster skater than Hayes. Hayes is not close to TK, maybe equal to Farabee and Cates.
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