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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:49 PM ET
If the same management team is in place they'll sign an aging vet to a ridiculous contract.
- Scoob


Even with improvement, this organization needs to realize that they are years away and act accordingly. If they don't, getting a couple of high draft picks won't matter enough. There are many different paths to success and not all paths taken can reach the pinnacle. The current path they're taking with Tortorella. Will not get them there.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:53 PM ET
He was on point about the Tortorella hire as a distraction to the fan base as to how bad things are.

But then I think, how can the fans NOT know how bad it is even with Torts?

- Pelle31Forever


So is Kevin Hayes having his best statistical season to spite Tortorella? I am legit asking.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
So is Kevin Hayes having his best statistical season to spite Tortorella? I am legit asking.
- mickel25


He's simply never had this much PP time before.

His ES scoring rates are back to around where he was prior to signing the contract.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
He's simply never had this much PP time before.

His ES scoring rates are back to around where he was prior to signing the contract.

- Tomahawk

Just being Captain Obvious here- isn't it a coaching function/ decision?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
He's simply never had this much PP time before.

His ES scoring rates are around where he was prior to signing the contract.

- Tomahawk


Is he on the powerplay because the Flyers have no other options? Would that still be true if Cam and SC were healthy?

I think Yes to the first and maybe to the second?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
Is he on the powerplay because the Flyers have no other options? Would that still be true if Cam and SC were healthy?

I think Yes to the first and maybe to the second?

- mickel25


Behind Hayes is Cates and then nobody. So no other options basically.

As much as Torts loves to (frank) around w/ lines at ES, he's doesn't mess around w/ the PP. He knows his team needs to score on the PP to win most nights so he's putting all the "top" guys out there as much as possible.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
Behind Hayes is Cates and then nobody. So no other options basically.

As much as Torts loves to (frank) around w/ lines at ES, he's doesn't mess around w/ the PP. He knows his team needs to score on the PP to win most nights so he's putting all the "top" guys out there as much as possible.

- Tomahawk


That is the way I see it too. I am fine with him pushing Hayes to be consistent in terms of focus or effort or whatever we are calling it these days.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
He also is an all star at negotiating contracts. I wonder if it had to do with him being an ex player. I had heard Yzerman was good at the "one good pair of shoes" speech. Essentially, how much money do you really need? Enough to buy one good car, one good pair of jeans and shoes. That multiple cars don't make you happier.
- Aaron_85


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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
So is Kevin Hayes having his best statistical season to spite Tortorella? I am legit asking.
- mickel25


lol "f this guy! I'm going out there and playing great!"
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:16 PM ET
lol "f this guy! I'm going out there and playing great!"
- Scoob


I think I would enjoy that more. Every time he scores he just gives Torts the bird.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:18 PM ET
lol "f this guy! I'm going out there and playing great!"
- Scoob


I wish that was true, but it's not.

Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jan 10 @ 2:50 PM ET
Some chatter LA might be interested interested In Provorov….what’s it take to get Byfield from them?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
Some chatter LA might be interested interested In Provorov….what’s it take to get Byfield from them?
- Wingdestroyer


LA wants a LD. They are also in on Chychrun.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jan 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
LA wants a LD. They are also in on Chychrun.
- Aaron_85


Cool….Provorov is an LD.

Question stands
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 3:07 PM ET
Some chatter LA might be interested interested In Provorov….what’s it take to get Byfield from them?
- Wingdestroyer

Not sure LA would want to give up on Byfield just yet and it seems he's been getting more minutes lately. They'd probably be more willing to give up Turcotte though
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
If Provorov gets traded, the return better be the beginning of turning us around. It seems like the fanbase wants a kid under 26 years of age who has played 25 minutes a game and has been facing off against Alex Ovechkin and Sidney Crosby his entire career, so Cam York and Travis Sanheim can take over. Alright, I hope it works out for us. I’ve already watched John Tavares jump over Sanheim and score a goal on us once this season.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
So is Kevin Hayes having his best statistical season to spite Tortorella? I am legit asking.
- mickel25


Honestly, I don't have an answer. It could be. I never thought Hayes was a bad player.

I'd like to know where most of his points/goals are coming from. The switch to wing has been good for him.
FlyerFan3260
Location: MAGA
Joined: 09.28.2020

Jan 10 @ 3:39 PM ET
We should all just love this team.

Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jan 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
Not sure LA would want to give up on Byfield just yet and it seems he's been getting more minutes lately. They'd probably be more willing to give up Turcotte though
- TobyFlenderson



i'm not sure it would count as "giving up" on him....Even if he isn't a number 1 dman Provorov has a lot of value. I know the Kings still really like Byfield, I'm just curious what it might look like.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 10 @ 4:00 PM ET
We should all just love this team.
- FlyerFan3260


Kum Ba Yah my Lord...Kumbaya
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 10 @ 4:14 PM ET
i'm not sure it would count as "giving up" on him....Even if he isn't a number 1 dman Provorov has a lot of value. I know the Kings still really like Byfield, I'm just curious what it might look like.
- Wingdestroyer


Take a wild swing at it. I don't think it would be easily done by any team. My guess is LA thinks he's an heir apparent to Kopitar for top center position in a few years so it would likely cost way too much from any team.

My GUESS is something similar to Schenn when he was traded from the Kings to the Flyers. I don't know if the Flyers have a player similar to Mike Richards trade value at the time. I honestly don't know.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jan 10 @ 4:20 PM ET
Take a wild swing at it. I don't think it would be easily done by any team. My guess is LA thinks he's an heir apparent to Kopitar for top center position in a few years so it would likely cost way too much from any team.

My GUESS is something similar to Schenn when he was traded from the Kings to the Flyers. I don't know if the Flyers have a player similar to Mike Richards trade value at the time. I honestly don't know.

- Aaron_85


I agree it’s a head scratcher….the only players the Flyers would have to get it done would be Konecny, Provorov, and Hart.

*to start the convo to get it done
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
I agree it’s a head scratcher….the only players the Flyers would have to get it done would be Konecny, Provorov, and Hart.

*to start the convo to get it done

- Wingdestroyer


I thought about Hart being in the conversation but I still value the Center position higher. I suppose it depends how close LA thinks they are to winning again.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 10 @ 4:49 PM ET
We should all just love this team.
- FlyerFan3260

The team has been a boring, declining loser for a while now, yet we're still tuning in and complaining about it everyday. It's as close as you get to true marital-grade love without having the "I don't know, what do you want for dinner?" argument.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 10 @ 5:21 PM ET


I know Biz is buddies w/ Hayes, so he's stickinging up for his boy, but some of the stuff he says about the way Torts handles his players lands squarely.

- Tomahawk
Biz is a smacked ass.
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