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Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:52 PM ET
also true, but that doesn't change the fact MSL was coaching peewees.
- fidopro


I'll have to check his resume on Linkedin but I do believe he played before that.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
I'll have to check his resume on Linkedin but I do believe he played before that.
- Fredo

sure, but give him some help! plenty of vet headcoaches are looking for work.
Burrows is green, Robidas is also a rookie... that's not really serious.

many said Hughes is unexperienced as a GM, but he has Gorton by his side to guide him.
so it's good for the GM but not for the headcoach?
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:59 PM ET
sure, but give him some help! plenty of vet headcoaches are looking for work.
Burrows is green, Robidas is also a rookie... that's not really serious.

many said Hughes is unexperienced as a GM, but he has Gorton by his side to guide him.
so it's good for the GM but not for the headcoach?

- fidopro

I think we will see some changes this summer to the coaching staff around MSTL
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
sure, but give him some help! plenty of vet headcoaches are looking for work.
Burrows is green, Robidas is also a rookie... that's not really serious.

many said Hughes is unexperienced as a GM, but he has Gorton by his side to guide him.
so it's good for the GM but not for the headcoach?

- fidopro

Gorton is president it's not the same. They didn't hire Bob Gainey as assitant-GM to Hughes.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
Gorton is president it's not the same. They didn't hire Bob Gainey as assitant-GM to Hughes.
- Fredo

tu joues sur les mots Freddo.
Gorton is VP, not President. and it doesn't change the fact that Hughes has a guy on who he can rely. a guy who did the job of GM before.
MSL doesn't.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
Habs have 11 draft picks already for this coming draft. All their picks + florida 1st, Pitts and Vegas 4th, CGY 5th.

They should be able to grab a few more before this TDL.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
Habs have 11 draft picks already for this coming draft. All their picks + florida 1st, Pitts and Vegas 4th, CGY 5th.

They should be able to grab a few more before this TDL.

- Symba.007

probably 2 more yes, Monahan and Edmundson
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:12 PM ET
probably 2 more yes, Monahan and Edmundson
- fidopro

might see first round picks in 2024 though. Habs only have 8 picks in 2024, they traded their 2nd in the Dvorak trade but acquired Colorado 2nd in the Lehkonen trade and they have EDM 7th round pick (Kulak trade)
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
then there is the Monahan 1st round pick from CGY

Here are the conditions associated with the first-round selection acquired by Montreal:
1. In the event Calgary’s own 2024 first (1st) round choice is selection 20-32 (inclusive) (following the determination of the 2024 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall have the option, exercisable until 48 hours prior to the start of the 2024 NHL draft, to exchange the conditional 2025 or 2026 first round choice to become Calgary’s own 2024 first (1st) round choice); or,
If Florida’s 2025 First (1st) Round Choice Transfers to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
2. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal’s option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A) If both Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice (previously acquired by Calgary) are not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall receive the earlier of the two (2) stated choices; or,
B) If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection and Florida’s 2025 first round selection (previously acquired by Calgary) is outside of the top-10 selections (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice).
If Florida’s 2025 First Round Choice DOES NOT Transfer to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
3. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal’s option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A. If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice, and additionally,
1) If Florida’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results); and,
2) Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice has been transferred to another NHL Club; and,
3) Florida’s 2025 first round draft position is better than Calgary’s 2025 first round draft position; then Calgary will transfer their own 2025 fourth round choice to Montreal.
B. If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary’s 2025 first (1st) round choice, subject to the following condition below:
1) In the event Calgary’s 2025 first (1st) round choice is the first (1st) selection overall in the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Calgary will retain its own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Montreal shall instead receive Calgary’s own 2025 third (3rd) round choice and a conditional 2026 first (1st) round choice. Montreal shall receive the better of Calgary’s 2026 first (1st) round choice or Florida’s 2026 first (1st) round choice (following the determination of the 2026 NHL Draft lottery results) (previously conditionally acquired by Calgary).
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
tu joues sur les mots Freddo.
Gorton is VP, not President. and it doesn't change the fact that Hughes has a guy on who he can rely. a guy who did the job of GM before.
MSL doesn't.

- fidopro


I'm sure Bob Hartley would tell the defense not be rookies and Jake Allen to be a number one goalie.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:25 PM ET
then there is the Monahan 1st round pick from CGY

Here are the conditions associated with the first-round selection acquired by Montreal:
1. In the event Calgary’s own 2024 first (1st) round choice is selection 20-32 (inclusive) (following the determination of the 2024 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall have the option, exercisable until 48 hours prior to the start of the 2024 NHL draft, to exchange the conditional 2025 or 2026 first round choice to become Calgary’s own 2024 first (1st) round choice); or,
If Florida’s 2025 First (1st) Round Choice Transfers to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
2. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal’s option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A) If both Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice (previously acquired by Calgary) are not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall receive the earlier of the two (2) stated choices; or,
B) If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection and Florida’s 2025 first round selection (previously acquired by Calgary) is outside of the top-10 selections (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice).
If Florida’s 2025 First Round Choice DOES NOT Transfer to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)
3. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal’s option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:
A. If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice, and additionally,
1) If Florida’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results); and,
2) Florida’s 2025 first (1st) round choice has been transferred to another NHL Club; and,
3) Florida’s 2025 first round draft position is better than Calgary’s 2025 first round draft position; then Calgary will transfer their own 2025 fourth round choice to Montreal.
B. If Calgary’s own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary’s 2025 first (1st) round choice, subject to the following condition below:
1) In the event Calgary’s 2025 first (1st) round choice is the first (1st) selection overall in the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Calgary will retain its own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Montreal shall instead receive Calgary’s own 2025 third (3rd) round choice and a conditional 2026 first (1st) round choice. Montreal shall receive the better of Calgary’s 2026 first (1st) round choice or Florida’s 2026 first (1st) round choice (following the determination of the 2026 NHL Draft lottery results) (previously conditionally acquired by Calgary).

- Symba.007


TLDR.


We have another first round pick in the next few years.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 10 @ 2:26 PM ET
he talks a lot less since the tournament.
did Fantilli even play?

- fidopro


He has bust written all over him.

Fantilli, too.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:27 PM ET
TLDR.


We have another first round pick in the next few years.

- Scabeh

has to be the most complex condition to a pick
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:28 PM ET
Carlsson was impressive
- fidopro


I was very impressed by that Sale kid as well.

Lots of great picks in that top 10.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:28 PM ET
has to be the most complex condition to a pick
- Symba.007


Sometimes I feel like I could have been a good lawyer.

And then I see stuff like that and.... nope.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:28 PM ET
I was very impressed by that Sale kid as well.

Lots of great picks in that top 10.

- Scabeh

I liked that Sandin-Pellikka kid also, mobile RHD (Florida pick maybe)
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:31 PM ET
I liked that Sandin-Pellikka kid also, mobile RHD (Florida pick maybe)
- Symba.007

Habs could use a mobile RHD
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:31 PM ET
I liked that Sandin-Pellikka kid also, mobile RHD (Florida pick maybe)
- Symba.007


Yeah, he's projected outside the top 10 in most lists but hey, we've seen bigger reaches.
Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yeah, he's projected outside the top 10 in most lists but hey, we've seen bigger reaches.
- Scabeh

Button just moved him to #10 on his latest list


https://www.tsn.ca/craig-...l-draft-ranking-1.1904128


and Button is not a fan of Dvorski
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:39 PM ET
Button just moved him to #10 on his latest list


https://www.tsn.ca/craig-...l-draft-ranking-1.1904128


and Button is not a fan of Dvorski

- Symba.007


Really curious to see how much Michkov will fall.

And that Will Smith guy is always highly ranked but I know nothing about him.


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
The Czech goaltender from last world junior is available in this draft.

Projected in the 2nd round... might be an interesting choice for a goalie of the future.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
Really curious to see how much Michkov will fall.

And that Will Smith guy is always highly ranked but I know nothing about him.

- Scabeh

with a draft that deep he could fall a good 15-20 ranks imo.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 10 @ 2:43 PM ET

Symba.007
Location: Caitlin > Kim -bigzby, ON
Joined: 03.23.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:49 PM ET

- kicksave856

pouting again....someone used the letter Q and he's not happy.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
with a draft that deep he could fall a good 15-20 ranks imo.
- fidopro


I have a 10$ bet with a friend that he still gets picked in the top 15.
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