I'm not making excuses :

How do you explain henry lundquist not having a Stanley cup ring? Dom only got 1, and if dom didnt poison McCabe's shin pad, he would have 7 or 8 cups.

I'd go average goalie, good defense and run the puck up the ice, instead of passing it.
- Boss34

I think we are saying the same thing. By "great goaltending", I mean an average goalie needs to play out of his skull for a few weeks.

Would you look at that.. another poster who thinks we need Joker pushed down to 3rd pair... Crazzzzyyyy
- DirtyDan

The poster is saying : a trade, its gonna have to be a really good defenseman to force joker down to 3rd pairing.

Not: joker is a 3rd pair defenseman

Ideally joker is a 3rd pair defenseman and we find the 2nd pairing guy.

Realistically joker is our #4 , we are not making any trade to improve our depth. They like joker. Vibes and all.

I look at is as, what better way to address the depth with getting a better guy to slot Joker down a pair. Then if someone gets injured Joker can slot up for the time being and the chemistry is already there.

This way you've essentially "fixed" the D problem with (lets say) one move and can focus on the forward depth
- DirtyDan

Getting good players to be better than the players you have in the bottom half of the roster should be a constant objective.

I look at is as, what better way to address the depth with getting a better guy to slot Joker down a pair. Then if someone gets injured Joker can slot up for the time being and the chemistry is already there.

This way you've essentially "fixed" the D problem with (lets say) one move and can focus on the forward depth
- DirtyDan

I guess what I'm getting at is, unless it's a clear upgrade, they don't need to overpay just to add a RHD.

I'm not even the biggest Joker fan but I was surprised to see his numbers are close to or better than a bunch of guys I thought might be cost effective upgrades.

So having a real top 4 RD and having Joker moved down to 3rd pair duties would go a LONG way IMO.

Joker can handle the spot with Power I have no doubt about that, he would just we way more useful on the 3rd pair.
- DirtyDan

I would think that if we got chickenman that he would actually play on the 3rd pair and we would be having a play-driving defenseman on the ice at all times.

Getting good players to be better than the players you have in the bottom half of the roster should be a constant objective.
- TheSabresTaco

Tell that to management

UPL is starting tonight because Quinn was loaned.
- TheSabresTaco

Thank you

Tell that to management
- DirtyDan

I mean Kevo says it every time he speaks into a microphone.

I think they're serious about this year, considering their handling of UPL. But that should continue with the acquisition of a middle 6 F and an RD4. Of course they won't be rentals.

I look at is as, what better way to address the depth with getting a better guy to slot Joker down a pair. Then if someone gets injured Joker can slot up for the time being and the chemistry is already there.

This way you've essentially "fixed" the D problem with (lets say) one move and can focus on the forward depth
- DirtyDan

Would you look, here's another guy that wants joker as a bottom pairing. 😀

I guess what I'm getting at is, unless it's a clear upgrade, they don't need to overpay just to add a RHD.

I'm not even the biggest Joker fan but I was surprised to see his numbers are close to or better than a bunch of guys I thought might be cost effective upgrades.
- Michael Ghofrani

Would you say Joker's #'s are more consistent with a 4th or 5/6 defenseman?

I'm not sure why he gets hated on so much?

Would you say Joker's #'s are more consistent with a 4th or 5/6 defenseman?

I'm not sure why he gets hated on so much?
- Boss34

Hard to say cause he keeps getting hurt when he starts to play well. Probably a low end #4.

Im sure if they can upgrade there they will, but he's not their biggest problem right now.

Hard to say cause he keeps getting hurt when he starts to play well. Probably a low end #4.

Im sure if they can upgrade there they will, but he's not their biggest problem right now.
- Michael Ghofrani

Appreciate your opinion.

#4 it is

Brady and Corey Dillon were essentially Tannehill and Henry.

Tannehill was a heck of a lot better than Big Ben was when he won his first ring.
- Swedish_Jesus

Brady is essentially Tannehill

Got it

You won this argument

Would you say Joker's #'s are more consistent with a 4th or 5/6 defenseman?

I'm not sure why he gets hated on so much?
- Boss34

He'd be more useful on the 3rd pair.

You wont find someone here that thinks otherwise

Different coaches and personnel can have huge impacts on players.

Granato has Jost and Clague playing like NHL players. Dallas Eakins has Klingberg as a train wreck other trainwrecks drink beer and watch. Gallant had Miller playing exceptionally well and Lousy crushed him.
- TheSabresTaco

I think it’s safe to assume we’re not gonna agree on Klingberg.

I think the Sabres should lean into their high octane offensive identity

Why do we suck at home?
- lacaprup

The arena in Buffalo feels like a giant coffin

benching quinn and peterka IMO was the wrong message

you have guys with skill like krebs, casey and olofsson

one of them should have been bumped up
- homiedclown

I disagree

Quinn and Peterka needed to sit for a minute

Sending them down would have been the wrong message.

Hard to say cause he keeps getting hurt when he starts to play well. Probably a low end #4.

Im sure if they can upgrade there they will, but he's not their biggest problem right now.
- Michael Ghofrani

Their biggest problem is having a 3rd pair that cant play meaningful minutes. Having Joker down a pair helps with that.

Improves the depth while alleviating pressure from the top 2 pairs. Win-Win

Dahlin and more-so Power look drained some nights

I disagree

Quinn and Peterka needed to sit for a minute

Sending them down would have been the wrong message.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Quinn was sent down on paper

I guarantee it's a nothing burger. Benching rookies is every so often is common practice, especially when they sputter.

Not that anyone cares, but that question should be directed towards Asplund and Hino instead.
- TheSabresTaco

This.

I think it’s safe to assume we’re not gonna agree on Klingberg.

I think the Sabres should lean into their high octane offensive identity
- sbroads24

I'm genuinely surprised at your Klingberg support. We know what he can and can't do, but holy (frank) man, he's terrible on defense.

No one in the league is worse. Literally.

He was bad enough last season on a good team. He was Jokiharju bad.

I disagree

Quinn and Peterka needed to sit for a minute

Sending them down would have been the wrong message.
- BeadyEyedDouche

They will 100% stay with this team the entire year. Write it in sharpie.

I'm not making excuses :

How do you explain henry lundquist not having a Stanley cup ring? Dom only got 1, and if dom didnt poison McCabe's shin pad, he would have 7 or 8 cups.

I'd go average goalie, good defense and run the puck up the ice, instead of passing it.
- Boss34

Dom won 2 cups

The poster is saying : a trade, its gonna have to be a really good defenseman to force joker down to 3rd pairing.

Not: joker is a 3rd pair defenseman

Ideally joker is a 3rd pair defenseman and we find the 2nd pairing guy.

Realistically joker is our #4 , we are not making any trade to improve our depth. They like joker. Vibes and all.
- Boss34

This is the correct interpretation of my post.

Dom won 2 cups
- BeadyEyedDouche

Thank you. Beat me to it