I think that makes Meier the obvious choice but also makes him more expensive than a normal mercenary since he will have value after the season ends.


What's a realistic package for him? Does two firsts get it done?
- JRR1285

the problem with trading with San Jose is that they are so capped out they can't even retain money

I think that makes Meier the obvious choice but also makes him more expensive than a normal mercenary since he will have value after the season ends.


What's a realistic package for him? Does two firsts get it done?
- JRR1285

Keep in mind: Timo Meier is due a $10M qualifying offer after this season if whatever team that acquires him can't agree on a contract extension.

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- tomburton99

I’m not even opening it 😂

We disagree let’s leave it at that please and stop pissing on each other. I really don’t wanna do this anymore. I miss cool Tom

Keep in mind: Timo Meier is due a $10M qualifying offer after this season if whatever team that acquires him can't agree on a contract extension.
- eichiefs9

Ouch!

Ouch!
- Fenrir

that guy is making 10 million in cash this season but has a 6 million cap hit, that's a wild contract

Keep in mind: Timo Meier is due a $10M qualifying offer after this season if whatever team that acquires him can't agree on a contract extension.
- eichiefs9

is that cuz it needs to match what he's actually making this season even though his cap hit is 6m?

I think that makes Meier the obvious choice but also makes him more expensive than a normal mercenary since he will have value after the season ends.


What's a realistic package for him? Does two firsts get it done?
- JRR1285

Probably not.

Would probably have be more than what Florida gave up to get Giroux. Would have to probably Othmann, a 1st year this year and 1st next year for starters. Maybe more.

But that is why I suggested Drury treat him as purely as a rental. Trade him at the Draft to a team like Nashville, Buffalo or Detroit.

is that cuz it needs to match what he's actually making this season even though his cap hit is 6m?
- Mtlca66

yes

is that cuz it needs to match what he's actually making this season even though his cap hit is 6m?
- Mtlca66

Yeah kinda what the Flames did with Tkachuk.

yes
- jimbro83

that's a crazy rule - can't believe the sharks structured his contract like that. dude must love his agent

Probably not.

Would probably have be more than what Florida gave up to get Giroux. Would have to probably Othmann, a 1st year this year and 1st next year for starters. Maybe more.

But that is why I suggested Drury treat him as purely as a rental. Trade him at the Draft to a team like Nashville, Buffalo or Detroit.
- tomburton99

(frank)in yikes. I don't know anymore.

For the record. Last time I was told someone sucked and was over the hill that person now leads all defensemen in pts

the Rangers current deadline cap space is 5.4 million

it's why I still lean toward them acquiring a couple of pieces and not a big fish

is that cuz it needs to match what he's actually making this season even though his cap hit is 6m?
- Mtlca66

Yep. Explanation from CapFriendly below, with pertinent parts in bold:

The qualifying offer is calculated from the players base salary (NHL salary minus signing bonus), and at minimum must meet the seasons minimum salary requirements:

110% of the base salary if the base salary is less than or equal to $660,000

105% of the base salary if the base salary is greater than $660,000 or less than
$1,000,000. However, this qualifying offer cannot exceed $1,000,000.

100% of the base salary if the base salary is equal to or greater than $1,000,000.
CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)

So he's making $10M base salary this season and his QO has to be 100% of that which



is $10M

For the record. Last time I was told someone sucked and was over the hill that person now leads all defensemen in pts
- Slimtj100

Shattenkirk?

Matt Jackson
@Mcbearcat7557
Frank Seravalli lists the following four as #NYR Trade deadline targets:

Patrick Kane
Brock Boeser
JVR
Vladislav Gavrikov


No.
No.
Maybe.
Yes.

Matt Jackson
@Mcbearcat7557
Frank Seravalli lists the following four as #NYR Trade deadline targets:

Patrick Kane
Brock Boeser
JVR
Vladislav Gavrikov


No.
No.
Maybe.
Yes.
- tomburton99

JVR i could get behind.

JVR i could get behind.
- mdw7413

thats what I hear about you

Matt Jackson
@Mcbearcat7557
Frank Seravalli lists the following four as #NYR Trade deadline targets:

Patrick Kane
Brock Boeser
JVR
Vladislav Gavrikov


No.
No.
Maybe.
Yes.
- tomburton99

I’m with you on Boeser. Talk about an underachiever

thats what I hear about you
- jimbro83

Don't judge!

Yep. Explanation from CapFriendly below, with pertinent parts in bold:

The qualifying offer is calculated from the players base salary (NHL salary minus signing bonus), and at minimum must meet the seasons minimum salary requirements:

110% of the base salary if the base salary is less than or equal to $660,000

105% of the base salary if the base salary is greater than $660,000 or less than
$1,000,000. However, this qualifying offer cannot exceed $1,000,000.

100% of the base salary if the base salary is equal to or greater than $1,000,000.
CBA Reference 10.2 (a) (ii)

So he's making $10M base salary this season and his QO has to be 100% of that which



is $10M
- eichiefs9

Have to imagine that a contract extension for whatever team holds his rights is the higher probability path.

If they can't agree he either becomes a free agent or signs for 1 year at 10mil?

That's a risk for the player too since he could have a down year or get injured etc.

Matt Jackson
@Mcbearcat7557
Frank Seravalli lists the following four as #NYR Trade deadline targets:

Patrick Kane
Brock Boeser
JVR
Vladislav Gavrikov


No.
No.
Maybe.
Yes.
- tomburton99

Don't think I want a guy in Vladislav Gavrikov where as a defenseman, his best year was his first year at +1. With this rangers squad, we need someone more stable.

Have to imagine that a contract extension for whatever team holds his rights is the higher probability path.

If they can't agree he either becomes a free agent or signs for 1 year at 10mil?

That's a risk for the player too since he could have a down year or get injured etc.
- JRR1285

Yeah I can't imagine anyone acquires him without fully planning to extend him and, even though another year with $10M salary would probably be great for Timo, I'd imagine he'd rather sign a long-term deal that guarantees him way more than that.

Sharks AGM was at the NYI/DAL game the other night, so I have to imagine that one or both of those teams are interested in him. Unless DAL has interest in Karlsson or someone else, but Meier is the only Shark I could see the Isles wanting.

Don't think I want a guy in Vladislav Gavrikov where as a defenseman, his best year was his first year at +1. With this rangers squad, we need someone more stable.
- fish_hoof

He is stable. Look at his underlying metrics

Yeah I can't imagine anyone acquires him without fully planning to extend him and, even though another year with $10M salary would probably be great for Timo, I'd imagine he'd rather sign a long-term deal that guarantees him way more than that.

Sharks AGM was at the NYI/DAL game the other night, so I have to imagine that one or both of those teams are interested in him. Unless DAL has interest in Karlsson or someone else, but Meier is the only Shark I could see the Isles wanting.
- eichiefs9

Dallas probably can't afford him. next year. They would have to sign 6 other players with 5.1 million in cap space.