I just see more of a grinder with a really good shot with him. Nothing wrong with that either. One of my all time favorites was Graves and that was basically his game. Wasnt the best skater or puck handler, but was strong on his skates, battled, and had great hands.
- mdw7413

I feel like once we won that lotto everyone expected McDavid or something like him because he was 1OA pick. Some guys just take longer to truly find themselves.

Tage Thompson and Nischuskin are prime examples of this. I think if we forget he was 1OA for now and just let him grow maybe it’ll help. And have some patience and not say screw laf

- JRR1285

Hard to believe he forgot how to do all of that. Some blame has to go to Org too. Like the forwards almost always fail. Especially the one drafted in the first round.

It certainly is. Imagine choosing to sign a contract in Ohio. Calgary must be pretty bad.
- JRR1285

Haven't been there, but it's a cow-town. Texas north. Supposed to be a beautiful, fun city. But, if you grew up in an urban American city, it might seem like a hick town.

Hard to believe he forgot how to do all of that. Some blame has to go to Org too. Like the forwards almost always fail. Especially the one drafted in the first round.
- tomburton99

Yep like Chris Kreider. Epitome of failure

Hard to believe he forgot how to do all of that. Some blame has to go to Org too. Like the forwards almost always fail. Especially the one drafted in the first round.
- tomburton99

He's going to get going at some point. Whether it's with the Rangers or not is all there is to it.

Yep like Chris Kreider. Epitome of failure
- Slimtj100

Chris Kreider, the exception. Not the rule. You want this list of first round forwards that Rangers have had issues developing? Pretty easy to rattle off.

I feel like once we won that lotto everyone expected McDavid or something like him because he was 1OA pick. Some guys just take longer to truly find themselves.

Tage Thompson and Nischuskin are prime examples of this. I think if we forget he was 1OA for now and just let him grow maybe it’ll help. And have some patience and not say screw laf
- Slimtj100

I wanted Nichuskin years ago

Chris Kreider, the exception. Not the rule. You want this list of first round forwards that Rangers have had issues developing? Pretty easy to rattle off.
- tomburton99

That’s probably every team/org in the league tho

Chytil 🤔 I gave you two

That’s probably every team/org in the league tho

Chytil 🤔
- Slimtj100

Who you want traded. So is he not good enough to keep or good enough to be the centerpiece in a deal?

Also did we forget that AV and Quinn refused give him minutes? Like that happened. I didn't dream it correct?

Who you want traded. So is he not good enough to keep or good enough to be the centerpiece in a deal?

Also did we forget that AV and Quinn refused give him minutes? Like that happened. I didn't dream it correct?
- tomburton99

This one isn’t about me lol you said we never develop 1st rd forwards, I gave you two of them. You’re basing this on Lias probably, which I know you despised at the time

So we’re still gonna piss all over each other?

every guy that didnt work out has its own individual reasoning, generalizing that they are all the same is lazy

every guy that didnt work out has its own individual reasoning, generalizing that they are all the same is lazy
- jimbro83

I mean our 2 first rd D prospects have hit a different level already in the NHL but let’s not count those guys

I mean our 2 first rd D prospects have hit a different level already in the NHL but let’s not count those guys
- Slimtj100

Kravtsov and Kakko are really coming around too

and we spent some of the morning wishing we could send Lafreniere down to AHL, where Kravtsov's biggest problem is that he wanted no part of being there, he'd rather be in Russia

I mean our 2 first rd D prospects have hit a different level already in the NHL but let’s not count those guys
- Slimtj100

the general consensus in here as always been issues with developing forwards, not D prospects, so why bring them up when talking forwards?

Kravtsov and Kakko are really coming around too

and we spent some of the morning wishing we could send Lafreniere down to AHL, where Kravtsov's biggest problem is that he wanted no part of being there, he'd rather be in Russia
- jimbro83

This is why we hate this place lol blanket statements of negativity that are just not true

the general consensus in here as always been issues with developing forwards, not D prospects, so why bring them up when talking forwards?
- Mtlca66

Because Teflon Tom is wrong on occasion
Is Chytil good or bad? I think he’s good based on this site

Kravtsov and Kakko are really coming around too

and we spent some of the morning wishing we could send Lafreniere down to AHL, where Kravtsov's biggest problem is that he wanted no part of being there, he'd rather be in Russia
- jimbro83

it's kind crazy how we're still doing decently in the standings with kakko/kravs as our top 2 RWs right now with neither of them putting up a ton of points. if they pan out we really got something cooking here

it's kind crazy how we're still doing decently in the standings with kakko/kravs as our top 2 RWs right now with neither of them putting up a ton of points. if they pan out we really got something cooking here
- Mtlca66

Kravtsov makes me tingle. He passes the eye test game in and game out. He's gonna start potting some goals.

the general consensus in here as always been issues with developing forwards, not D prospects, so why bring them up when talking forwards?
- Mtlca66

it's such a waste of time because this conversation always leads people going back to Jessiman and Brendl, blah blah blah

the only relevant picks are Lias, Chytil, Kravtsov, Kakko, Lafreniere and Othmann

every one of these guys has their own individual storyline

it's such a waste of time because this conversation always leads people going back to Jessiman and Brendl, blah blah blah

the only relevant picks are Lias, Chytil, Kravtsov, Kakko, Lafreniere and Othmann

every one of these guys has their own individual storyline
- jimbro83

It’s alot of tbds in there. Lias sucked no doubt but that draft was pretty weak

It’s alot of tbds in there. Lias sucked no doubt but that draft was pretty weak
- Slimtj100

at least they got something out of Lias and turned it into Cuylle

at least they got something out of Lias and turned it into Cuylle
- jimbro83

I really would like to see him this season just doesn’t seem to be in the cards

at least they got something out of Lias and turned it into Cuylle
- jimbro83

They could have had Gabe Vilardi.

They could have had Gabe Vilardi.
- JRR1285

I wonder if people would have had the patience to deal with all his back issues he had in the 3 years after he was drafted

there definitely would have been a lot of "we wasted the 7th overall pick on a guy with a chronic back problem" talk

I wonder if people would have had the patience to deal with all his back issues he had in the 3 years after he was drafted

there definitely would have been a lot of "we wasted the 7th overall pick on a guy with a chronic back problem" talk
- jimbro83

I know but it's the guy Tom wanted.