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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
I could be wrong but I don't see Josh Allen having 9 kids.
- buffalofan19




he pulls out
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
Isn't the top line playing against defensive players?

Shutdown lines generally play defense, not offense.

Tough comparison

- Boss34


If you think that's an important element, shouldn't it apply both ways?
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
Side note, I have to wonder if Vancouvers reputation has taken serious damage for how they are handling this whole situation and what they did to Brucey.
- ImThatGuy


I'd say. That whole thing was horrible.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
im not a fan of his but i do agree you cant fire after one year. Gotta see what he can do with a full year under his belt
- hubie


You absolutely can.

We could potentially waste another year of Josh Allen while Dorsey tries to figure it out.

I’m not all about that.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
The biggest loss of the season wasn't Hyde, it wasn't Von Miller, it was Brian Daboll...


10 points in the playoffs is inexcusable.

- Stripes77

5 1st rd picks and 2 2nd rd picks on D to go with poyer and milano and they couldn't stop the bengals either


total team loss
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
They fired Rick Dennison after his first year
- RichardRoma

Dennison was a tire fire.

Dorsey isn't clueless. The question was never "is he capable?". The question was "can they survive growing pains as a Super Bowl favorite?". After the Green Bay game, roughly, the answer was no.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
5 1st rd picks and 2 2nd rd picks on D to go with poyer and milano and they couldn't stop the bengals either


total team loss

- homiedclown

Call Vic Fangio.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
If you think that's an important element, shouldn't it apply both ways?
- Lunaion


I think it's misleading. Teams play match ups.

Sometimes mitts jost olo get stuck playing defense, which isnt their speciality.

I have very few problems with a 3rd liner putting in 21 goals already. 7th round pick as well....
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
Call Vic Fangio.
- ImThatGuy


Jewish_ jesus liked him with Denver.

Probably more suited to a coordinator position then head coach.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
Jewish_ jesus liked him with Denver.

Probably more suited to a coordinator position then head coach.

- Boss34

That’s exactly what I’d use him for.

His defenses are usually very good.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:24 PM ET
Jewish_ jesus liked him with Denver.

Probably more suited to a coordinator position then head coach.

- Boss34

I thought Fangio coached a 3-4 defense.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
As a 3rd liner, VO has given up more 5v5 goals than the top line. It's tough to dismiss that.
- Lunaion

VO doesn’t play goalie or defense.

I think we need to stop pretending that on ice goals against are equal to on ice goals for in terms of evaluating forwards

Olofsson is much more likely to be responsible for a goal for than a goal against

On ice expected goals against per 60

Olofsson - 2.73
Mittelstadt 2.72
Selke Rasmus Asplund - 3.27
Tage Thompson 3.14
Dylan Cozens 2.76

They aren’t giving up more quality than other top 9 forwards. They’re getting worse goaltending when they’re on the ice
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
That’s exactly what I’d use him for.

His defenses are usually very good.

- ImThatGuy


Defense could use a fresh look .

I'm signing Edmund's as a priority.

Give him gabes $
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jan 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
I thought Fangio coached a 3-4 defense.
- Hatboro_Swords

This. This defense is 100% 4-3. But, apparently, ImThatGuy is ok with trying to shoehorn 4-3 personnel into a 3-4 defense.
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jan 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
That’s exactly what I’d use him for.

His 3-4 defenses are usually very good.

- ImThatGuy

Fixed
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 23 @ 2:32 PM ET
The day of the Triple Lindy?


Or it was Housley

- Ratsreign


It was Phil. 40 years ago today. Maybe that's an indicator for Dahls tonight.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
4th period said Sabres are interested in Timo Meier

I don’t love it. We can’t afford a potential future 10 million dollar player
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
4th period said Sabres are interested in Timo Meier

I don’t love it. We can’t afford a potential future 10 million dollar player

- Sabretooth9

He's not gonna get 10mill
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
It was Phil. 40 years ago today. Maybe that's an indicator for Dahls tonight.
- lacaprup

Who's gonna win tonight?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
He's not gonna get 10mill
- Buff36

9 at the min
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
Damn. Micah Hyde said he would have been cleared to play on Sunday.
- buffalofan19

That really sucks. Hyde is a great player and he is a great speaker. Love his interviews.

Just heard Von talk. Sounds like he will be coming back for year(s). Thank god. Was worried about him hanging them up.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
VO doesn’t play goalie or defense.

I think we need to stop pretending that on ice goals against are equal to on ice goals for in terms of evaluating forwards

Olofsson is much more likely to be responsible for a goal for than a goal against

On ice expected goals against per 60

Olofsson - 2.73
Mittelstadt 2.72
Selke Rasmus Asplund - 3.27
Tage Thompson 3.14
Dylan Cozens 2.76

They aren’t giving up more quality than other top 9 forwards. They’re getting worse goaltending when they’re on the ice

- sbroads24


You're acting like there's a huge difference here.

VO is a team worst regular F at 44.7% xGF% and at 40.3% GF%. He scores and allows above expected.

Glad it's showing some signs of improvement with Jost recently, but the underlying question here is where you go next year.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
You're acting like there's a huge difference here.

VO is a team worst regular F at 44.7% xGF% and a team worst at 40.3% GF%. He scores and allows above expected.

Glad it's showing some signs of improvement with Jost recently, but the underlying question here is where you go next year.

- Lunaion


I mean isnt Quinn an easy replacement for Vo, so shouldn't we max value while we can... the longer we wait the more that goes down imo
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
He's not gonna get 10mill
- Buff36


10m QO though, really want anything to do with that?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
Fixed
- RichardRoma

What team does Fangio work for?

Hint it’s Philly. He’s the consultant of the defense.

They run neither a 3-4 or 4-3. They run a combo quarters defense.

https://www.nbcsports.com...or-4-3-answer-unusual?amp
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