It would be a bad idea unless you are talking only in advanced stats. Kane has outperformed Bergeron in most seasons the two have participated in together, Except for this one, and it's still close.

Bergeron is an advanced stats monster, but points also win games. Their +/- is pretty telling in that respect (bad stat I know). They are polar opposites and a team needs both types.


If you ask me who I wanted I take Bergeron right now. But in most cases/seasons I take Kane, for better or worse.
- JRR1285

The advance metrics on Kane haven't always been bad either. Again, you give me this version of Patrick Kane, I'd be on board.

The advance metrics on Kane haven't always been bad either. Again, you give me this version of Patrick Kane, I'd be on board.


- tomburton99

So no chance he could be that again on a good team. Ok 👍🏻

Just to be clear, I don't hate advanced stats. I just hate some of the people who like to vomit them on twitter.
- JRR1285

for someone to post them as a reason they think the Rangers wouldn't be interested in someone is ridiculous

The advance metrics on Kane haven't always been bad either. Again, you give me this version of Patrick Kane, I'd be on board.


- tomburton99

I THINK the acquiring team ends up with at worst a poor mans version of this. At best they get the guy exactly as depicted on your chart. My worry is, what the (frank) does he have left to play for? He certainly seems to be the competitive type but he's already won EVERYTHING, multiple times in some cases.

for someone to post them as a reason they think the Rangers wouldn't be interested in someone is ridiculous
- jimbro83

Especially someone with the career of 1200+ pts I can’t believe I still have defend this guy on a daily basis

So no chance he could be that again on a good team. Ok 👍🏻
- Slimtj100

Should look at the 2020-21 Blackhawks season if you think team success is that big of impact.

Should look at the 2020-21 Blackhawks season if you think team success is that big of impact.
- tomburton99

I’m not allowed to go back to last year remember? how dare you!!

for someone to post them as a reason they think the Rangers wouldn't be interested in someone is ridiculous
- jimbro83

I'm all ears as to what defines a player being good or not using analytics. Please share yours.

Especially someone with the career of 1200+ pts I can’t believe I still have defend this guy on a daily basis
- Slimtj100

there's never been a clearer case of advanced stats not mattering when it comes to a player as it would be if the Rangers are interested in Patrick Kane

but I know Tom will continue to say it, mainly because he knows its annoying

when Tom was banned for 3 years, his ban actually said "come back less annoying"

I'm all ears as to what defines a player being good or not using analytics. Please share yours.
- tomburton99

the smiley face after each post is so (frank)ing annoying

the smiley face after each post is so (frank)ing annoying
- jimbro83

So now you want to me to be allowed to use site sponsored emojis.

So now you want to me to be allowed to use site sponsored emojis.
- tomburton99

no I want you to set yourself on fire

there's never been a clearer case of advanced stats not mattering when it comes to a player as it would be if the Rangers are interested in Patrick Kane

but I know Tom will continue to say it, mainly because he knows its annoying

when Tom was banned for 3 years, his ban actually said "come back less annoying"
- jimbro83

That's right. Because I purposefully tried to derail the blog. Go look back on this thread to see who broached the subject on Patrick Kane. Bet it wasn't me. You don't like my opinion, based on analytics about Patrick Kane. Fine. Report me.

I’m very sorry I started all this by trying to not start it

there's never been a clearer case of advanced stats not mattering when it comes to a player as it would be if the Rangers are interested in Patrick Kane

but I know Tom will continue to say it, mainly because he knows its annoying

when Tom was banned for 3 years, his ban actually said "come back less annoying"
- jimbro83

I remember that lol

You never told me you got banned for life from the tweeter or you’re bsing?

That's right. Because I purposefully tried to derail the blog. Go look back on this thread to see who broached the subject on Patrick Kane. Bet it wasn't me. You don't like my opinion, based on analytics about Patrick Kane. Fine. Report me.
- tomburton99

its senseless because the Rangers won't factor them in

how (frank)ing dense are you?

no I want you to set yourself on fire
- jimbro83

Seems extreme give the topic is about Patrick Kane once being good and currently not.

its senseless because the Rangers won't factor them in

how (frank)ing dense are you?
- jimbro83

And that's been problem for the Rangers. I won't bring up one trade that they were ignored in. But they were and it has not been great.

And that's been problem for the Rangers. I won't bring up one trade that they were ignored in. But they were and it has not been great.
- tomburton99

Zib trade I bet they didn’t either

And that's been problem for the Rangers. I won't bring up one trade that they were ignored in. But they were and it has not been great.
- tomburton99

the one trade "they were ignored in" happened because they thought Kakko and Lafreniere would be better than they have been, they didnt trade Buchnevich because of analytics ether way

the one trade "they were ignored in" happened because they thought Kakko and Lafreniere would be better than they have been, they didnt trade Buchnevich because of analytics ether way
- jimbro83

Ironically we can fix that by one simple trade

the one trade "they were ignored in" happened because they thought Kakko and Lafreniere would be better than they have been, they didnt trade Buchnevich because of analytics ether way
- jimbro83

To clear cap space and use the cap space, and then some, on 4 players that were/are below average. So yeah it all comes to the analytics.

To clear cap space and use the cap space, and then some, on 4 players that were/are below average. So yeah it all comes to the analytics.
- tomburton99

no, you mental midget

the Rangers made a decision not to sign Buchnveich long term because they had Panarin and Kreider already signed long term and then expected Kakko and Lafreneriere to be a lot better than they have been

but they made a bad trade

no, you mental midget

the Rangers made a decision not to sign Buchnveich long term because they had Panarin and Kreider already signed long term and then expected Kakko and Lafreneriere to be a lot better than they have been

but they made a bad trade
- jimbro83

it’s funny how everyone disappears when the 3 of us go at it

it’s funny how everyone disappears when the 3 of us go at it
- Slimtj100

Tom is clearly going to be cynical about everything the Rangers ever do for the rest of time because of the Buchnevich trade