So with the deadline in about a month. Whats the goal? Sell UFAs and just hope Fletcher doesn't spend other assets?
- Aaron_85

Sell the right players for assets. The rest is hopeless.

The truth is he hasn’t been bad for 10 years…how does a guy play in the NHL for that long and be bad? He’s proven that he can produce points, 4 x a 40 plus point guy. Here’s a news flash, you don’t have zero hockey IQ, like some love to quote, and produce like that at this level….it just doesn’t happen.
As far as his time in Philly, I don’t think he’s been great. Last year I thought he was passable at times but saw a player that was under achieving and pressing. I also saw some games where by it was easy to see why they went and got himto be fair, but far to many times for my liking, and the coaching staff’s, he took him self out of the play to be physical.
As far as the extension I don’t think it was done necessarily based on his one year here. What contract is? The Flyers paid for a guy that was a minutes eater, physical player who could produce offence and move the puck….the guy from 3 years ago. As of today it looks like an over pay….right in line for what Fletcher has done since he’s been here ….over pay.
So what about this year? I think the new coaching staff sent the message early with his benching. They wanted him to focus more on his defensive play, as his gaffes hardly could make up any offence he was bringing. Of the last 10 games or so he looks like a guy who has started to put some really good games together….will it last ? I have no idea.
As far as his usage here I don’t see how he will live up to that contract. It’s also fair to argue that playing 17-18 minutes a night is where he belongs…he won’t produce points like he did in Buffalo, partly because he will not get time on the PP and he will never be the Flyers “go to guy” like he was in Buffalo. To me Fletcher should know full well that his fit here is not ideal….this is not a player you move that many assets for and pay that way if this is his role….which I don’t see changing.
Hopefully, with any luck Risto has a decent end to the season and whomever the GM is the summer find him a new home. His play the rest of the season will dictate if that will be even possible.
- landros 2

no idea how many of those 40 points he put while in buffalo were on the pp. too lazy to look. If most were then to acquire him and not use him on said pp is a joke. shows the incompetence.

RR didn't underachieve to me. Would also love to know when he went from an offensive dman to a physical one. His physicals play is so overrated to me.

finding him a new home is not possible unless max retention or including good assets to move him. Or bad contract for bad contract.

Sell the right players for assets. The rest is hopeless.

- MJL

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Can you provide the names of who the right players are they should move. thanks.

So with the deadline in about a month. Whats the goal? Sell UFAs and just hope Fletcher doesn't spend other assets?
- Aaron_85

JVR - Gone
Braun is probably gone but for what? Does any team really need an aging 7th d who can't even crack THIS lineup?

An interesting article in the Athletic today by Charlie O'Connor is that the best move the team can make would be to trade Konecny for a haul. He lays out a pretty convincing argument but also states unequivocally that the franchise would NEVER do it.

Maybe they can get a late round pick for Patrick Brown.

Truth is there isn't much there. Maybe Provorov will be in play and they could get a haul for him, but I just don't think the Jurassic Country Club thinks they are that far away.

So with the deadline in about a month. Whats the goal? Sell UFAs and just hope Fletcher doesn't spend other assets?
- Aaron_85

It all depends on what Fletcher see’s as the time horizon for this team. His signings suggest he has blinders on with regards to where this team actually is. Maybe he buys his own excuses ? Logically he should move out all the UFA’s and any player that the coaching staff doesn’t see as part of the future. In reality if the Flyers are within 6 points of the wild card spot I could also see him standing pat, or even adding a small piece…a self preservation stance.

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JVR - Gone
Braun is probably gone but for what? Does any team really need an aging 7th d who can't even crack THIS lineup?

An interesting article in the Athletic today by Charlie O'Connor is that the best move the team can make would be to trade Konecny for a haul. He lays out a pretty convincing argument but also states unequivocally that the franchise would NEVER do it.

Maybe they can get a late round pick for Patrick Brown.

Truth is there isn't much there. Maybe Provorov will be in play and they could get a haul for him, but I just don't think the Jurassic Country Club thinks they are that far away.
- MBFlyerfan

what does he think they would get for TK?

no idea how many of those 40 points he put while in buffalo were on the pp. too lazy to look. If most were then to acquire him and not use him on said pp is a joke. shows the incompetence.

RR didn't underachieve to me. Would also love to know when he went from an offensive dman to a physical one. His physicals play is so overrated to me.

finding him a new home is not possible unless max retention or including good assets to move him. Or bad contract for bad contract.
- hello it's me 2050

Physical hockey is not over rated to guys that play. It’s just not. The 4 plus 40 point seasons were not a mirage. I did look before, but to lazy to do it again, he produced the majority of his points or at least a good number of them on the PP. He does have some decent offensive skills, even though we haven’t really see them to often here.
I’m for moving him, especially since I don’t see them ever giving him the chance to get back to those point totals here. I see what Torts and his staff are trying to do with him and ain’t really all that sure it can work.

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- MBFlyerfan

Thanks MBFlyerfan

Bad players don’t see beyond a decade in the NHL. See Randy Jones and Andrew MacDonald.
- SuperSchennBros

Amac played 11 seasons.

Also, there were no shortage of people who refused to believe that AMac was bad in his first few seasons here. Now it's not even debatable, we just all accept that he was a terrible mistake.

Same thing will happen w/ Risto. In 5-10 years, you'll be ripping him in hindsight along with the rest of us.

Who said anything about prime defensive responsibilities? He’s isn’t a regular on the PK. He’s seen sometime but he isn’t at all seeing regular PK time. You can start there.
- SuperSchennBros

You're talking about him taking over some of TDA's minutes, which includes more minutes against top lines.