I posted a pic of the guy riding a bike with a giant dildo for a seat and said it was Roger from the Leafs board
- Vukota

You did damned fine work that day.

That's nothing to be proud of russ.......

50 yards
- Upstate_isles

I don't get it

I don't understand where this notion comes from that Bo Horvat is apparently some sort of high-end sniper. Yes, he's having a phenomenal year...but he's got precisely 1 other year where he eclipsed 30 goals. His shooting % is 21.7 this year, which is 50% higher than his career shooting percentage of 14%. Maybe the magic continues with the Islanders for the rest of the season, but massive jumps in shooting percentage at this age are the exception, not the norm. Expecting him to continue shooting at 21% is a fool's errand.
- eichiefs9

So he's probably a 20 25 goal scorer that's great on draws. I expect another move

You did damned fine work that day.
- Wildschwein

So he's probably a 20 25 goal scorer that's great on draws. I expect another move
- Upstate_isles

25-30 depending on games played. look at his last 5 years. that's consistent. This year is far ahead of that, but he's a 30 goal guy and we desperately need that.

I have a friend who is a die hard cancucks fan. He absolutely hates the deal. Says we're gonna love this guy.

nitpicking - these stats the last 5 years are more indicative of a 30 goal scorer. a consistent one. How many of these have we had? He can score in the shootout, he goes to the front of the net and plays hard and physical. We lost a guy who disappears every year for huge stretches, a prospect that I like, but is not a top line player and a 1st that is protected if this doesn't work out.

2018-19 Vancouver Canucks NHL 82 27 34 61 33 -4 -- -- -- -- --
2019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 22 31 53 21 -15 17 10 2 12 4
2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 56 19 20 39 23 -6 -- -- -- -- --
2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 70 31 21 52 40 3 -- -- -- -- --
2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 49 31 23 54 12 3
- Isles_since_6

To be clear, I am not implying that Horvat isn't a very good player. I'm happy we have him, I just see a handful of people implying we acquired some sort of pure goal scorer and I don't think that's the case.

These are his career S%, by season. The number in bold on the bottom is his career average. One of them is very much unlikely the others:

25-30 depending on games played. look at his last 5 years. that's consistent. This year is far ahead of that, but he's a 30 goal guy and we desperately need that.
- Isles_since_6

Especially if he gets to play with Barzal. No reason why he can't at least hit 30 a year moving forward.

I was gonna tell him to logout for a bit
- Upstate_isles

To be clear, I am not implying that Horvat isn't a very good player. I'm happy we have him, I just see a handful of people implying we acquired some sort of pure goal scorer and I don't think that's the case.

These are his career S%, by season. The number in bold on the bottom is his career average. One of them is very much unlikely the others:


- eichiefs9

He is compared to most of the forwards on the roster

To be clear, I am not implying that Horvat isn't a very good player. I'm happy we have him, I just see a handful of people implying we acquired some sort of pure goal scorer and I don't think that's the case.

These are his career S%, by season. The number in bold on the bottom is his career average. One of them is very much unlikely the others:


- eichiefs9

50 goals is not going to be his norm going forward, nor is the 21% shooting percentage. 30 goals is realistic and very consistent with his career so far depending on games played. That's what i'm looking at. I'm not basing it on this year.

in this league - 30 goals IS a consistent goal scorer and he is a shooter and not a playmaker.

So he's probably a 20 25 goal scorer that's great on draws. I expect another move
- Upstate_isles

I don't honestly know what else of value they have that can be moved for anyone worthwhile. Maybe Wahlstrom had value, but he sure doesn't right now. Maybe Bolduc is in play, but I'm not sure what Bolduc and a 2nd round pick gets you.

I don't get it
- Vukota

So he's probably a 20 25 goal scorer that's great on draws. I expect another move
- Upstate_isles

In many ways he’s very Nelson-esque. Over an 82 game span, we can reasonably expect him to pot 30-30-60 per season. He does tend to wanna shoot first, so that should blend well with Barzal. I’d imagine Horvat will “technically” be Barzal’s LW, but will take the majority of the draws. Much like Tkachuk does for Stützle.

I don't honestly know what else of value they have that can be moved for anyone worthwhile. Maybe Wahlstrom had value, but he sure doesn't right now. Maybe Bolduc is in play, but I'm not sure what Bolduc and a 2nd round pick gets you.
- eichiefs9

if not then Id like to see horvat extended and some guys moved out after the season, Baily being at the top of the list. I get the feeling that wont happen sadly

That was over the line, you don't compare anyone the the Duke boys!! This is almost like vukotas 6 month ban
- Upstate_isles

I've never been banned. I've giving myself self bans. I will now stay away from posting for 3 weeks.

I have a friend who is a die hard cancucks fan. He absolutely hates the deal. Says we're gonna love this guy.
- Vukota

As do I. He also hates the deal. But he also looks at Horvat the way I look at Lee, so…

I've never been banned. I've giving myself self bans. I will now stay away from posting for 3 weeks.

- ses111

ok

reddit guy said 8.5x7 for Horvat not that anyone really knows what lou will do

if not then Id like to see horvat extended and some guys moved out after the season, Baily being at the top of the list. I get the feeling that wont happen sadly
- Upstate_isles

I'd do anything to get rid of Bailey, short of having to move additional assets to get someone to take him. I'd trade him for a soiled diaper and four rusty screws.

- Upstate_isles

As do I. He also hates the deal. But he also looks at Horvat the way I look at Lee, so…
- Wildschwein

with a raging hard on

I'd do anything to get rid of Bailey, short of having to move additional assets to get someone to take him. I'd trade him for a soiled diaper and four rusty screws.
- eichiefs9

There’s no damned way he’d get you that many screws.

As do I. He also hates the deal. But he also looks at Horvat the way I look at Lee, so…
- Wildschwein

I'd do anything to get rid of Bailey, short of having to move additional assets to get someone to take him. I'd trade him for a soiled diaper and four rusty screws.
- eichiefs9

remember Lou moved Ladd so baily should be a cakewalk, didnt he also move Clarksons deal?