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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 8 @ 4:57 PM ET
Children were at such small risk that when they tested the vaccine on them there were not enough cases in either the test group or the control group to be statistically relevant so they used antibody testing to try and prove efficiency. On the under age population they didn't even try to do a controlled test, they only tested antibody response.

They were never tested on children for potential side effects or long term health risks.

The whole roll out to children was coercive and wrong on a variety of angles. I would rather be at 10 percent risk of dying from something then dictate that children take something that had a 0.001 percent chance of having a serious unknown side effect. Children are sacred but maybe that's the father in me.

- Pres.cup


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 4:57 PM ET
Fact checking his claims, is not attacking you or him. I agree, his expertise is there, however this is a fact check on the things he has claimed. I don't have a horse in this race, I trust the scientific community, who do not support his claims. Very simple for me: he makes his money from people like you, just like J-Pederson.

This is why there is a special message board where special boys and girls can go and talk about these things and be upset with each other about it. I'm sticking to hockey from here on, but thanks I hadn't heard of him and went down the rabbit hole. Not at all compelled by him.

- neem55


You read a "fact check" about a podcast he guest star'd on. You didn't read any papers or articles he's written.

Here's an excerpt of an essay I wrote on the harms of government censorship, yes I'm quoting myself.

Spread of misinformation and suppression of dissenting voices - censorship can lead to a lack of critical thinking and decision making, as people may only have access to information approved by the government and may be less likely to question it. This can result in a distorted reality where only the official narrative is heard, suppressing alternative viewpoints and dissenting voices.

This is why what he's saying seems odd to you, only the official narrative has been allowed to be spoken.

Anyways, back to hockey.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 5:03 PM ET
No – again, it's not what you're saying, but how you're trying to create a dialogue.

Pompous in how you talk down to people in a holier-than-thou attitude.

Hypocritical in that (as one example) golfing asks you a direct question for proof, and you don't answer his question but spin it to go down your line of questioning and then get antagonistic that no one is answering your "direct question".

Is it civil to be an admitted "pain in the ass" to "hammer away at a specific point until the point is made"? I don't think so. I'd say it's hypocritical to say everyone is being uncivil without seeing yourself also being uncivil.

- NewYorkNuck


Golfing asked me for proof that there wasn't any healthy 6 to 19yo who died of covid in bc. That's a fallacy, you cannot disprove a negative. You can only prove a positive. If you can't prove the positive, then the negative is true. Debate 101.

If you can't show a single case, then you're wrong. Plain and simple, that's how it works.

Is it hypocritical to say that I'm not name calling while being name called myself? No, it's not. Hammering away at Fact isn't uncivil, denying the fact and calling the person stating it names is however uncivil.

Tldr; can't prove a negative, Golfing was wrong and you were also uncivil.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 5:06 PM ET

- TurdFergeson


Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
Golfing asked me for proof that there wasn't any healthy 6 to 19yo who died of covid in bc. That's a fallacy, you cannot disprove a negative. You can only prove a positive. If you can't prove the positive, then the negative is true. Debate 101.

If you can't show a single case, then you're wrong. Plain and simple, that's how it works.

Is it hypocritical to say that I'm not name calling while being name called myself? No, it's not. Hammering away at Fact isn't uncivil, denying the fact and calling the person stating it names is however uncivil.

Tldr; can't prove a negative, Golfing was wrong and you were also uncivil.

- Pres.cup

And this is why you QAnon people are all idiots. Now, let's stop talking about this BS and get back to hockey.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 5:08 PM ET
Back to hockey, things are getting derailed

Demko to LA for their #1 goalie prospect, a 2023 1st and a 2024 second

Would you?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 8 @ 5:09 PM ET
Back to hockey, things are getting derailed

Demko to LA for their #1 goalie prospect, a 2023 1st and a 2024 second

Would you?

- Pres.cup

Their #1 goalie prospect is not that great, so no.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 8 @ 5:18 PM ET
And this is why you QAnon people are all idiots. Now, let's stop talking about this BS and get back to hockey.
- Retinalz

He's lying anyways, that's not what I asked for proof about.

He's just twisting things like he always does.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 5:25 PM ET
And this is why you QAnon people are all idiots. Now, let's stop talking about this BS and get back to hockey.
- Retinalz


An example of the tolerant left.

Why am I QAnon? I don't even know what that means.... weird.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 8 @ 5:38 PM ET
Golfing asked me for proof that there wasn't any healthy 6 to 19yo who died of covid in bc. That's a fallacy, you cannot disprove a negative. You can only prove a positive. If you can't prove the positive, then the negative is true. Debate 101.

If you can't show a single case, then you're wrong. Plain and simple, that's how it works.

Is it hypocritical to say that I'm not name calling while being name called myself? No, it's not. Hammering away at Fact isn't uncivil, denying the fact and calling the person stating it names is however uncivil.

Tldr; can't prove a negative, Golfing was wrong and you were also uncivil.

- Pres.cup


Incorrect. But keep spinning (in the other thread)



Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 8 @ 5:55 PM ET

https://www.urbandictiona...php?term=Babbling%20Idiot
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 5:57 PM ET
He's lying anyways, that's not what I asked for proof about.

He's just twisting things like he always does.

- golfingsince


There's pages of me asking you to provide a single example disproving a single topic which you accused me of lying about, this example being about healthy children.

I may be mixing you and bloated up but this post of yours is yet another example of you name calling instead of discussing the topic at hand.
Not very civil of you.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 8 @ 6:08 PM ET
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:26 PM ET
Cause Elon Musk can be trusted....
- Retinalz

Right. Because Biden, Trudeau, Gates, Schwab, Fauci sure can be.

lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
I'm huge fan of Tulsi Gabbard. She is not Muslim though. You are probably thinking of Ilhan Omar.
- boonerbuck

Ya Tulsi Gabbard would be nice.



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:30 PM ET


Did the one person post any personal attacks?

Interesting how upset some get when their narrative is challenged.

Who's talking about QANON? Not the people critical of the government.

- Pres.cup

Q'anon is a deflection once their narratives are de-bunked. All they have are insults after that.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 8 @ 6:31 PM ET
There's pages of me asking you to provide a single example disproving a single topic which you accused me of lying about, this example being about healthy children.

I may be mixing you and bloated up but this post of yours is yet another example of you name calling instead of discussing the topic at hand.
Not very civil of you.

- Pres.cup


As opposed to the dozens of stupid memes that you post? Stop playing the victim and man-up for Christ’s sake.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 8 @ 6:32 PM ET
Right. Because Biden, Trudeau, Gates, Schwab, Fauci sure can be.

lol

- LordHumungous

Trudeau definitely not. I would trust Gates and Fauci over Musk any day. Biden...still would trust over Musk, but don't trust him either. Musk would be your standard career McDonalds employee if not for his fathers fortune, which was gained through slavery, etc.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:39 PM ET
No, the Turd was making an allegation and I was pointing out that his contribution to the political thread was strictly personal attacks and contributed nothing factual.

I was wrong and should have said "so says the pot " instead of including the full phrase. I'll go back and edit it.

- Pres.cup

Pretty sure the Turd is KY-Man but sounding more and more like RealityChicken everyday.

Alt's abound.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 8 @ 6:40 PM ET

- Pres.cup


The guy on the right is clearly a hipster.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
Incorrect. But keep spinning (in the other thread)




- NewYorkNuck


Copy paste the whole list of statements and quit cherry picking

The absolute risk factors from covid to healthy younger men is very very low. The government's censorship of data is what limits sending a link verifying my statement.

I mentioned the Twitter files as proof of censorship and the healthy children risk factors as proof of the government's disingenuous coercion on the subject and asked to go through what I listed one subject at a time in order to paint a picture of my point. The "children dying of covid" one is easily verified despite government censorship so I started with that one.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:47 PM ET
As opposed to the dozens of stupid memes that you post? Stop playing the victim and man-up for Christ’s sake.
- bloatedmosquito


How many times was I called a name?

How many times did I name call?

I posted one meme on that thread after multiple ones were posted by posters targeting me.

You're making things up and conflating the 1000 page thread with the political thread. Stay on topic because technically you're lying about my posting multiple memes in the political thread. But facts aren't really a strong suit of yours, are they?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:48 PM ET
Trudeau definitely not. I would trust Gates and Fauci over Musk any day. Biden...still would trust over Musk, but don't trust him either. Musk would be your standard career McDonalds employee if not for his fathers fortune, which was gained through slavery, etc.
- Retinalz


Who's the conspiracy theorist again?

Be consistent.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:50 PM ET
Trudeau definitely not. I would trust Gates and Fauci over Musk any day. Biden...still would trust over Musk, but don't trust him either. Musk would be your standard career McDonalds employee if not for his fathers fortune, which was gained through slavery, etc.
- Retinalz

After the lies we have witnessed over the last three years it's remarkable that everything these clowns touch isn't questioned. If to be thankful for 'covid' on anything is that it exposed a level of corruption that is probably way beyond what we think we know. I'm sure Musk has his issues but would easily take him over those other clowns. Biden and JT are China's puppets while Gates is suddenly a doctor and a farmer go figure. Fauci has been caught red-handed with gain of function research around the 'covid' strain. And if you wanna talk about what was 'gained' through slavery it goes well beyond Musk. Schwab is a WEF goof that wants everyone on the planet micro-chipped and followed and his climate narratives are beyond bonkers. I guess what's even more remarkable is folks fall for their bullish!t day in and day out.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Feb 8 @ 6:51 PM ET
I keep trying to stay on hockey so I'll try one more time.

LA has a crappie goaltender prospect that we might not want.

How about Demko for their 2023 1st and their 2024 and 25 2nds?
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