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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Feb 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
Casey this year, Girgs next year

You've got Jost Krebs and Jenner who can play multi.

Figger it.

- TheSabresTaco


Fify as hes a C/LW not RW
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:25 AM ET
Matters what we'd get him for. The bottom 6 is in major flux for next season. Okposo may not return, Gus may not either. Krebs may go to 3C, Jost may go to 4C, either of them can play wing and bottom 9. There's a place for Jenner, especially next season.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:25 AM ET
My 2 cents, for what it’s worth.

Cozens deal was not under market value, IMO. Neither was the Tage deal at the time.
My biggest question is does Dahlin take an under market value deal to:
1- keep this train rolling
2- position the Sabres to go after a Meier type
3- not create friction with the Tage deal (ie, Dahlin gets 10.5 per and a couple years down the road Tage feels slighted as he’s leading the league)
4- if you truly love where you play, what’s the difference between being stupid rich and being stupid rich? Does 1-2 mil make that big of a difference when you’re already a multi millionaire? It is worth breaking a smalll market team?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:26 AM ET
Fify as hes a C/LW not RW
- DirtyDan


i dont understand what you fixed.

casey is on the wing rn and also playing lw.

Jenner can play L and C, probably R too.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
My 2 cents, for what it’s worth.

Cozens deal was not under market value, IMO. Neither was the Tage deal at the time.
My biggest question is does Dahlin take an under market value deal to:
1- keep this train rolling
2- position the Sabres to go after a Meier type
3- not create friction with the Tage deal (ie, Dahlin gets 10.5 per and a couple years down the road Tage feels slighted as he’s leading the league)
4- if you truly love where you play, what’s the difference between being stupid rich and being stupid rich? Does 1-2 mil make that big of a difference when you’re already a multi millionaire? It is worth breaking a smalll market team?

- lulags


I bet Dahlin takes Makar money. Like Makar's value at signing.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Matters what we'd get him for. The bottom 6 is in major flux for next season. Okposo may not return, Gus may not either. Krebs may go to 3C, Jost may go to 4C, either of them can play wing and bottom 9. There's a place for Jenner, especially next season.
- TheSabresTaco

We need a serious upgrade on toughness on bottom 6
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
We need a serious upgrade on toughness on bottom 6
- lulags


Now that we all understand what we all mean by toughness without the necessity to elaborate (I hope), yes, we do.

And I strongly believe Kevo knows it.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
My 2 cents, for what it’s worth.

Cozens deal was not under market value, IMO. Neither was the Tage deal at the time.
My biggest question is does Dahlin take an under market value deal to:
1- keep this train rolling
2- position the Sabres to go after a Meier type
3- not create friction with the Tage deal (ie, Dahlin gets 10.5 per and a couple years down the road Tage feels slighted as he’s leading the league)
4- if you truly love where you play, what’s the difference between being stupid rich and being stupid rich? Does 1-2 mil make that big of a difference when you’re already a multi millionaire? It is worth breaking a smalll market team?

- lulags


I mentioned that too. Cozens and tage are on point with their peers within a millionish dollars
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
I bet Dahlin takes Makar money. Like Makar's value at signing.
- TheSabresTaco

I really hope he takes a 9-9.5 per or we’re going to have a serious compression issue on our hands
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
Now that we all understand what we all mean by toughness without the necessity to elaborate (I hope), yes, we do.

And I strongly believe Kevo knows it.

- TheSabresTaco

Hopefully everyone understands at this point that goons died with dvd players
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
I really hope he takes a 9-9.5 per or we’re going to have a serious compression issue on our hands
- lulags


Without the addition of a Timo I don't believe this team has a long term cap issue.

I ran an estimate with Timo in it for a few years down the line and it looks like we'd need to be building a base cost bottom 3. It's possible and easy if they can shed jeff the last couple years of his deal.

That comes with current projections and not categoric jumps from Quinn, Peterka, Krebs et al
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
Without the addition of a Timo I don't believe this team has a long term cap issue.

I ran an estimate with Timo in it for a few years down the line and it looks like we'd need to be building a base cost bottom 3. It's possible and easy if they can shed jeff the last couple years of his deal.

- TheSabresTaco

Cap aside, as I agree, the compression I’m referring to is once you introduce a massive salary like 10-11 mil, naturally all other salaries that follow go up. This will probably create an issue down the road for Tage, as we will be paying average players 6-7 mil in a couple years if we give Dahlin the farm.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
Now that we all understand what we all mean by toughness without the necessity to elaborate (I hope), yes, we do.

And I strongly believe Kevo knows it.

- TheSabresTaco

Names!! I need Names
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
BuT i NeVeR bRiNg HiM uP

He’s still on a 60 point pace. But one game sample size matters more, I guess

- SDSabre


I've never claimed to not bring reinfart up?

Guy sucks ballz.

Wow 60 point season 😀

17 regular season goals 8 of which were pp
-13 for the season

Olofsson 23 goals 18 of which were even strength
Picked 179 picks later and makes almost 2 million less
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
Casey this year, Okposo next year

You've got Jost Krebs and Jenner who can play multi.

Figger it.

- TheSabresTaco


How about a 3rd line of Jenner - Krebs - Olofsson?
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
How about a 3rd line of Jenner - Krebs - Olofsson?
- kingcong39

Worth a shot
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
Cap aside, as I agree, the compression I’m referring to is once you introduce a massive salary like 10-11 mil, naturally all other salaries that follow go up. This will probably create an issue down the road for Tage, as we will be paying average players 6-7 mil in a couple years if we give Dahlin the farm.
- lulags


I see what you're saying but I don't believe that to be true. All of these negotiations are current market value for like players.

So just because you pay a norris caliber defenseman 10M doesn't mean you need to pay Bryson 4 million.

yes salaries inch up over time of course, especially with revenues increasing. In three years we're probably looking at 88-90M cap. I wouldn't be too worried about paying Dahlin a fair/lightly team friendly deal. I'll plant my flag on 9.5M
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
How about a 3rd line of Jenner - Krebs - Olofsson?
- kingcong39




yas

the space that man can open up for krebs to arm the rifle in the slot is high reward
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
Matters what we'd get him for. The bottom 6 is in major flux for next season. Okposo may not return, Gus may not either. Krebs may go to 3C, Jost may go to 4C, either of them can play wing and bottom 9. There's a place for Jenner, especially next season.
- TheSabresTaco


Gus may not either .....

Baller laid out the contract recently

825,000 x 8 years.

KA locks up core guys with multi year deals
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
How about a 3rd line of Jenner - Krebs - Olofsson?
- kingcong39

Then we are good with the kid line ?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
Gus may not either .....

Baller laid out the contract recently

8,000,000 x 8 years.

KA locks up core guys with multi year deals

- Boss34


fixed for accuracy
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
I bet Dahlin takes Makar money. Like Makar's value at signing.
- TheSabresTaco


Problem is maker's deal is 6 years I believe for 9 million?

Dahlin needs to be maxed and will be.

I'd be super disappointed if it's less then 8 years.

10.5 x 8
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 8 @ 11:39 AM ET
Then we are good with the kid line ?
- Buff36


that line next year will be 1.5-2x as potent
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Then we are good with the kid line ?
- Buff36


For next season, yes.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Gus may not either .....

Baller laid out the contract recently

825,000 x 8 years.

KA locks up core guys with multi year deals

- Boss34

Damn, that's a lot for a Nacho Vendor!! 😝😝
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