Do they take

Joker/Mitts
Rosen
1st

even this deal is drawing the line for me, and they would probably want one of Kulich/Ostlund if they aren't getting Savoie.

Grabbing a Murphy to me saves your ELC's of the future, and improves the area of most need (defense) IMO. You dont need another difference maker back there since you have 2 already.

You can make a difference by just having a stable back end.
- DirtyDan

Solid post, and generally agree.
I'll be the bumhole on the other side of the Jack Eichel trade debates for this Chick-fil-A trade:
Untouchables as follows:
-2023 unprotected, must be top 15 protected.
-Kulich
-Savoie
-Ostlund
-Levi
-Johnson

Proposed trade:
2024-1st
Rosen
Joker

We beat this to death earlier. Nobody claimed Quinn would score 20 this year or be Olo's replacement this year.
- Slump Buster

We beat a lot of things.
At times, Paul has a narrative and refuses to see the other side ...this was one of them.

I like another of his posts, but he shoots from the hip alot.

So seasoned veteran Jack Quinn is only supposed to score 20. Geesh. Seems like they overhyped him.
- lacaprup

another.

Lol.
This timing is perfect.
Let's let Jack play out...check back say Dec 2024.

Chris Johnston is reporting that Severson could be available.
- Buff36

4 year deal, sure!

https://www.dailyfaceoff....t-blackhawks-patrick-kane
I heard about him a little earlier today and posted it, but 17 would look good in Blue and Gold

I think it’s having enough good players to compete for the cup. Or just circumventing the cap when you need to as the NHL basically allows it.

Again, bravo on the cap savings. It’s doing absolutely nothing for the Sabres today, tomorrow or next year
- sbroads24

Gotta plan long term, then fill in short term.
The rebuild is going absolutely beautifully, relax as you'll be happy for the following 7 -10 years.

Teams don't get opportunities like this very often when things fall nicely into place Cap Wise Player Wise with contracts signed and such a deep prospect pool. Plus and this is big- They Are Already A Young Team.
- Buff36

They don't "fall into place"...the planning cause the "fall in place"

They don't "fall into place"...the planning cause the "fall in place"
- IonSabres

Oh so planning went into these players growing and developing as quickly as they have. Nobody saw this coming. Then Adams got lucky Botts's vision is working somewhat.

Solid post, and generally agree.
I'll be the bumhole on the other side of the Jack Eichel trade debates for this Chick-fil-A trade:
Untouchables as follows:
-2023 unprotected, must be top 15 protected.
-Kulich
-Savoie
-Ostlund
-Levi
-Johnson

Proposed trade:
2024-1st
Rosen
Joker
- IonSabres

I think that's about right. We're sending one of Joker, Bryson or Boosh back in that deal. Joker makes sense to me.

Ugh, Sabretooths Bday tomorrow. Place will be crawling with kids.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/trade-targets-who-steps-up-to-tempt-blackhawks-patrick-kane
I heard about him a little earlier today and posted it, but 17 would look good in Blue and Gold
- Buff36

Explain to my why Crouse is a good add? He’s been a bust since he was drafted

Oh so planning went into these players growing and developing as quickly as they have. Nobody saw this coming. Then Adams got lucky Botts's vision is working somewhat.
- Buff36

If the plan fell into place, Mitts is the 1C.

If the plan fell into place, Mitts is the 1C.
- Lunaion

Ugh, Sabretooths Bday tomorrow. Place will be crawling with kids.
- The_Inkwell

Sabres always always seem to lose kids days

Oh so planning went into these players growing and developing as quickly as they have. Nobody saw this coming. Then Adams got lucky Botts's vision is working somewhat.
- Buff36

Tage is the exception, the unicorn.
The rest are not as unfathomable.

Cozens, Dahlin, Power are the next level (Power was Adam's pick)...probably remarkable because the Sabres have flipped their script to become developmental experts led by Granato's and Appert's staffs. Before them, Development was piss poor.
Develop as fast as they did? Maybe not. But Develop, absolutely for sure, yes.

So by hiring those developmental expert Coaching Staffs, by slow playing thejr young guys...
YES, they planned for it.

Explain to my why Crouse is a good add? He’s been a bust since he was drafted
- Sabretooth9

How's he been a bust, scored 20 goals last year, has 16 or 18 this year, adds about 150 to 200 hits a year and is a good skater and decent Defensively on a bad team.

Gotta plan long term, then fill in short term.
The rebuild is going absolutely beautifully, relax as you'll be happy for the following 7 -10 years.
- IonSabres

I think the rebuild is going very well. I think Adams is doing a solid job so far.

I’m pumping the brakes on saying he’s great or he’s proved anything other than being competent so far.

Sabres still have holes.

If the plan fell into place, Mitts is the 1C.
- Lunaion

I don’t think we actually know what Botterill’s plan was. I think he was handcuffed by the Pegula’s

That being said I’m perfectly fine with him being gone and Adams/Karmanos/Ventura being here instead

Tage is the exception, the unicorn.
The rest are not as unfathomable.

Cozens, Dahlin, Power are the next level (Power was Adam's pick)...probably remarkable because the Sabres have flipped their script to become developmental experts led by Granato's and Appert's staffs. Before them, Development was piss poor.
Develop as fast as they did? Maybe not. But Develop, absolutely for sure, yes.

So by hiring those developmental expert Coaching Staffs, by slow playing thejr young guys...
YES, they planned for it.
- IonSabres

Granato was hired by Botts. Sabres had there HC sitting next to Krueger the whole time. And Granato and Appert had a relationship before Buffalo at the USNDP. Think they had there HC fall into there laps more than planning.

Explain to my why Crouse is a good add? He’s been a bust since he was drafted
- Sabretooth9

Truculence

How's he been a bust, scored 20 goals last year, has 16 or 18 this year, adds about 150 to 200 hits a year and is a good skater and decent Defensively on a bad team.
- Buff36

I think it was more the unfair expectations of him being the second coming of Cam Neely

I think it was more the unfair expectations of him being the second coming of Cam Neely
- Wetbandit1

He's turning into a solid player just took a couple years longer, still only 24. He could explode here with the players he will be playing with.

I don’t think we actually know what Botterill’s plan was. I think he was handcuffed by the Pegula’s

That being said I’m perfectly fine with him being gone and Adams/Karmanos/Ventura being here instead
- sbroads24

Well, I think we know it was Jack. When the page flipped, it was Mitts, Cozens, Krebs down the middle.

KA and JB sound a lot alike, but JB was not given the luxury of time.

How many other teams have their top 2 C’s signed for $14.3M for the next 7 years and are the caliber of Tage and Cozens ?

New Jersey ?

Not a long list, but if you want to continue to undersell Adam’s in those extensions feel free
- Swedish_Jesus

Adams didn't acquire either of them, just signed them. It's a good move to do so, but if anything we should be talking up Botts for getting them. Adams' has gotten us Quinn, Peterka, Jost, Comrie, Lyubushkin, Clague, Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund. How he is looked at should be based on how those guys do, not just because he signed young guys to cheap deals before they've really done anything.

Gotta plan long term, then fill in short term.
The rebuild is going absolutely beautifully, relax as you'll be happy for the following 7 -10 years.
- IonSabres

I think I heard that about 10 years ago with the first tank.