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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 10 @ 11:20 AM ET
McDavid having one assist is a sub par game for him. Like I said, the Flyers have the answer for McDavid.

- MJL

Start shopping Cates out west, we have a McDavid stopper!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
Very underwhelming performance by McDavid and Draisaitl, was expecting a lot more. McDavid was cheating a lot, always breaking the zone hoping a puck got chipped by
- ClaudeFather


That whole offense is predicating on cheating. Try to out man rush you to death.

I thought McDavid had his moments. Draisaitl not so much.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
Torts has also been in the league how long? Everyone knows how his teams are going to play, this is just false, there’s no surprise. You’re going to have to work for the win, teams know that going into the game
- ClaudeFather


Surprise probably wasn't the best word.

It's more like luring/lulling opponents into playing Torts' preferred style. Teams that are happy to live in all the open ice on the perimeter are gonna just get shot-blocked to hell. Teams that commit to taking the puck inside will give Torts' teams fits, but that requires a certain battle and work ethic that isn't always present when a team is trying to coast to a win.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:23 AM ET
Seems everyone else thought he played poorly for his standards. I was disappointed, thought I was gonna see a guy take over a game
- ClaudeFather


You sir are incorrect -- he was on top of his game - if it was not for the meddling Cate's and Laughton's he would have scored numerous hat tricks!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:26 AM ET
You sir are incorrect -- he was on top of his game - if it was not for the meddling Cate's and Laughton's he would have scored numerous hat tricks!
- corduroy


That SO attempt was... regrettable.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 11:26 AM ET
McDavid having one assist is a sub par game for him. Like I said, the Flyers have the answer for McDavid.

- MJL

that's right, because nothing the Flyers do is done well or is right. It has to be the McDavid had a bad game, otherwise would actually have to give the Flyers some credit.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:27 AM ET
This is an example of how the Flyers PR machine and marketing strategy along with Tortorella's manipulation has worked on a large faction of the fan base. My standards are higher. So is the leagues as Tortorella will not get consideration for coach of the year.
- MJL

I don’t think it’s PR, I just think they’re just better than what we expected. I think he’s doing a good job, not a great job. I can only say by what I see during games but I’m not at the practices. With this said, I don’t see anything that says he should win the Jack Adams.

Being 12th worst in the league instead of 5th worst as most of us expected isn’t that impressive. It’s not like we’re in the playoffs.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
I think Torts deserves the Jack Adams award this year, hands down!
- jd250

Krakstol wins that if the Kraken qualify for the playoffs.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Feb 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
Holding McDavid to one point is pretty impressive all around.
- PLindbergh31

😆 🤡 But it doesn't change flyers nomansland status. 😩
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
Krakstol wins that if the Kraken qualify for the playoffs.
- THE EVIL WITHIN



Yes, right now I would say the leading candidates are Hakstol, Bowness, Ruff, DeBoer, and possibly Montgomery.

Hak is in the lead, and Torts isn't even in the conversation IMO.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
I don’t think it’s PR, I just think they’re just better than what we expected. I think he’s doing a good job, not a great job. I can only say by what I see during games but I’m not at the practices. With this said, I don’t see anything that says he should win the Jack Adams.

Being 12th worst in the league instead of 5th worst as most of us expected isn’t that impressive. It’s not like we’re in the playoffs.

- SuperSchennBros

Good, but not great job in your opinion. Why? What in your mind would Torts have to do to classify as great in your mind?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
That SO attempt was... regrettable.
- Tomahawk

I find it interesting that a lot of top scoring players suck at SOs. Marchand and Pastrnak are two such players I don't see convert frequently. I will say as bad as McDavid's SO attempt was, Draisaitl's was even worse!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
that's right, because nothing the Flyers do is done well or is right. It has to be the McDavid had a bad game, otherwise would actually have to give the Flyers some credit.
- jd250



The franchise has been resurrected. Torts is coach of the year. Flyers have the answer to stopping McDavid that the rest of the league doesn't have. Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman and one of the best in the league. I'm on board.


Frost for crying out loud, move your feet.

I'll let you know of any further developments. As soon as Torts has another press conference.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
I find it interesting that a lot of top scoring players suck at SOs. Marchand and Pastrnak are two such players I don't see convert frequently. I will say as bad as McDavid's SO attempt was, Draisaitl's was even worse!
- jd250


McDavid's move was far worse. Embarrassing for a player of his caliber and completely lackadaisical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
Yes, right now I would say the leading candidates are Hakstol, Bowness, Ruff, DeBoer, and possibly Montgomery.

Hak is in the lead, and Torts isn't even in the conversation IMO.

- MBFlyerfan


Hakstol is definitely in the running but my bet would be on Montgomery.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
Good, but not great job in your opinion. Why? What in your mind would Torts have to do to classify as great in your mind?
- jd250


Answered already

"Being 12th worst in the league instead of 5th worst as most of us expected isn’t that impressive. It’s not like we’re in the playoffs."
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
Good, but not great job in your opinion. Why? What in your mind would Torts have to do to classify as great in your mind?
- jd250

Make the playoffs…
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
Cates struggles offensively in the center spot.
- MJL


He Has three less points than frost. Going against tougher matchups, first year playing a new position as a rookie.

He is doing fine.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
McDavid's move was far worse. Embarrassing for a player of his caliber and completely lackadaisical.
- MJL


The same move he has used successfully multiple times. Ok, sure
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
The franchise has been resurrected. Torts is coach of the year. Flyers have the answer to stopping McDavid that the rest of the league doesn't have. Ristolainen is the Flyers best defenseman and one of the best in the league. I'm on board.


Frost for crying out loud, move your feet.

I'll let you know of any further developments. As soon as Torts has another press conference.

- MJL

Priceless!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:45 PM ET
Make the playoffs…
- SuperSchennBros

Yup .. I get your point, making the playoffs with this roster would be a real miracle. Of course it will also secure the franchise in mediocrity for years to come, but it would be a great coaching achievement.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
Hakstol is definitely in the running but my bet would be on Montgomery.
- MJL

But compared to the other coaches people have mentioned, has Montgomery contributed the most to the Bruins' success? The Bruins last year had 107 points in 51 wins under Cassidy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:57 PM ET
Yup .. I get your point, making the playoffs with this roster would be a real miracle. Of course it will also secure the franchise in mediocrity for years to come, but it would be a great coaching achievement.
- jd250


What they're doing now is going to secure the franchise in mediocrity for years to come.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 12:58 PM ET
But compared to the other coaches people have mentioned, has Montgomery contributed the most to the Bruins' success? The Bruins last year had 107 points in 51 wins under Cassidy.
- jd250


What Montgomery has done in Boston is much, much harder to do than what Tortorella has done with the Flyers.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
But compared to the other coaches people have mentioned, has Montgomery contributed the most to the Bruins' success? The Bruins last year had 107 points in 51 wins under Cassidy.
- jd250



This is why I don't really think Montgomery is the front runner. Yes, I thought they would be in decline and the fact they have the best record is quite a surprise to me. He should be in the conversation for sure, and for that matter so should Rod.

But I think if the Kraken make the playoffs, Hakstol is the clear cut shoe in.


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