picklerick
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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personally I went certifiably insane during the 2014 Cup run and I definitely feel it coming on strong - jimbro83
Yes. This could certainly be some sort of precursor to an episode. |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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I’m done fighting honestly. I just want facts that make GG a bad coach and you got none 🤷🏻♂️ - Slimtj100
If this is how you’d like to frame what just happened in your mind then please go right ahead. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Yes. This could certainly be some sort of precursor to an episode. - picklerick
just as long as they don't commit to putting me into the nut house until July 1st
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Tonybere
New York Rangers |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.04.2016
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I didn’t want any of this. It’s not even 9am where do you 2 get the energy? And my whole house has covid. Stop looking for a fight PLZ - picklerick
Forget going off the rails on this board. There simply are no rails!
I can admit that you are not always negative.
But, based on your previous response to me it seems like you underestimate the responsibilities and impacts of a head coach. His job is to get everything taken care of when there are no cameras around so that when there are, he shouldn't have much to do... unless things aren't going right and changes need to be made. Not trying to man-splain this, but it is truth. And one that seems to be overlooked. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Rangers99
New York Rangers |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.01.2015
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Never seen this before. Pretty neat story.
https://youtu.be/FrpsUkLS2Lo
4 weeks and 2 days until I wear his jersey into the Garden! Can't. (frank)ing. Wait. - Tonybere
What game are you going to? |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I find it hysterical how upset the very idea of him has always made this place
Like you actually all believe he will suck based on a couple of pie charts. Truly unbelievable
The thing I’ll say is tho, I don’t think they can fit him in at even 25%, which is 2.625. That is too much to take on I believe - Slimtj100
He's also injured, almost 35, has 9 goals, and ranks 126th in points throughout the league. Why are we still doing this? |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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pickle AND tom slander on a early tuesday?!
- NYRangers1124
Imagine me being happy they add a RW, and this group of geniuses still defends the ideas of:
Gallant playing Jake Leschyshyn
Leschynshyn not being bad
Kravtsov benching
Gallant unable to tell the truth
Patrick Kane
All while I'm not here?
Yes, Pickle and I are in the wrong here. For sure... |
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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bean Town, MA Joined: 09.30.2015
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Imagine me being happy they add a RW, and this group of geniuses still defends the ideas of:
Gallant playing Jake Leschyshyn
Leschynshyn not being bad
Kravtsov benching
Gallant unable to tell the truth
Patrick Kane
All while I'm not here?
Yes, Pickle and I are in the wrong here. For sure... - tomburton99
Something I can’t fully wrap my head around is how Kravtsov is so good that he should be put in the lineup even when there’s no spot for his skill set, but he also doesn’t have any trade value what so ever.
(not directed at you, just the general sentiment from some fans) |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Imagine me being happy they add a RW, and this group of geniuses still defends the ideas of:
Gallant playing Jake Leschyshyn
Leschynshyn not being bad
Kravtsov benching
Gallant unable to tell the truth
Patrick Kane
All while I'm not here?
Yes, Pickle and I are in the wrong here. For sure... - tomburton99
Keep me outta this |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Something I can’t fully wrap my head around is how Kravtsov is so good that he should be put in the lineup even when there’s no spot for his skill set, but he also doesn’t have any trade value what so ever.
(not directed at you, just the general sentiment from some fans) - Bean_Dip
One could argue that part of the reason he has no trade value is because he didn’t get enough time in the lineup to establish any. There’s fault on all sides of the Kravtsov situation. Management, coaching, and player. It’s done though. Just hope we get literally anything for him and move on |
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NYRangers1124
New York Rangers |
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 07.24.2008
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Imagine me being happy they add a RW, and this group of geniuses still defends the ideas of:
Gallant playing Jake Leschyshyn
Leschynshyn not being bad
Kravtsov benching
Gallant unable to tell the truth
Patrick Kane
All while I'm not here?
Yes, Pickle and I are in the wrong here. For sure... - tomburton99
you two should kiss.
lechuhuchuchsynnynyn blows and an upgrade is a must. crossing my fingers it happens sooner and not right at the deadline. if they get two more bottom 6 GG is going to be flipping those lines like crazy finding the combos he likes. the more time for that the better |
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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bean Town, MA Joined: 09.30.2015
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One could argue that part of the reason he has no trade value is because he didn’t get enough time in the lineup to establish any. There’s fault on all sides of the Kravtsov situation. Management, coaching, and player. It’s done though. Just hope we get literally anything for him and move on - picklerick
I might be overvaluing Kravs, but you certainly are undervaluing him. |
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Tonybere
New York Rangers |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.04.2016
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What game are you going to? - Rangers99
March 16th against the Penguins. |
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picklerick
New York Rangers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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I might be overvaluing Kravs, but you certainly are undervaluing him. - Bean_Dip
Maybe? I’m gonna guess a mid round pick and a lower tier prospect maybe |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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He's also injured, almost 35, has 9 goals, and ranks 126th in points throughout the league. Why are we still doing this? - tomburton99
I didn’t bring it up (waves hands) |
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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bean Town, MA Joined: 09.30.2015
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Maybe? I’m gonna guess a mid round pick and a lower tier prospect maybe - picklerick
It’s not like he hasn’t shown he has some talent. He definitely profiles as a skilled winger.
I think he can still bring in a second rounder from a team that is trying to move on from rebuilding. Get a young, cost controlled, upside player in the lineup as soon as you bring him onboard. Don’t have to wait 3+ years. |
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Tonybere
New York Rangers |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.04.2016
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I might be overvaluing Kravs, but you certainly are undervaluing him. - Bean_Dip
I think we've touched on, yet skirted around the biggest issue surrounding Kravtsov... the organization has been yearning for him to step up and take a RW spot in the top 6 and he simply hasn't forced them to play him over other guys. If you want to pin that on the coach, fine. But, IMO, that's pretty short sighted. It's not like they drafted him and want to see him fail.
And regarding Leschychn (or whatever), it seems like you guys are trying to hold 4th line players to the same standard as top line players and that makes no sense. I don't think we need to go crazy over a guy who is likely to fight for a roster spot his whole career making some mistakes here and there.
The reality in this league is that if you are going to have players making around or over $10M, you are also going to have players making around the league minimum. If you think those bottom tier players aren't going to have warts, you are going to be miserable. |
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Rangers99
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 05.01.2015
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March 16th against the Penguins. - Tonybere
Nice, I'll be at the March 18th game against the Penguins. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Imagine me being happy they add a RW, and this group of geniuses still defends the ideas of:
Gallant playing Jake Leschyshyn
Leschynshyn not being bad
Kravtsov benching
Gallant unable to tell the truth
Patrick Kane
All while I'm not here?
Yes, Pickle and I are in the wrong here. For sure... - tomburton99
Gallants career coaching record
353-254-65
That’s terrible |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Something I can’t fully wrap my head around is how Kravtsov is so good that he should be put in the lineup even when there’s no spot for his skill set, but he also doesn’t have any trade value what so ever.
(not directed at you, just the general sentiment from some fans) - Bean_Dip
I can answer, or try to at least. Kravtsov isn't great. He's probably not even good. But this year, his process is fine. He just can't score. The Ranger generate more shots, scoring chances and high danger chances when he's on the ice vs when he's not on the ice.
Is he worth the return of where he was drafted? Absolutely not. Could and should he be in the line up? Yes. |
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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers |
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Location: Bean Town, MA Joined: 09.30.2015
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I think we've touched on, yet skirted around the biggest issue surrounding Kravtsov... the organization has been yearning for him to step up and take a RW spot in the top 6 and he simply hasn't forced them to play him over other guys. If you want to pin that on the coach, fine. But, IMO, that's pretty short sighted. It's not like they drafted him and want to see him fail.
And regarding Leschychn (or whatever), it seems like you guys are trying to hold 4th line players to the same standard as top line players and that makes no sense. I don't think we need to go crazy over a guy who is likely to fight for a roster spot his whole career making some mistakes here and there.
The reality in this league is that if you are going to have players making around or over $10M, you are also going to have players making around the league minimum. If you think those bottom tier players aren't going to have warts, you are going to be miserable. - Tonybere
Fully aware of the fact that Kravs is older, but this is still his first season in the NHL. It takes time to figure it out. Look at Laf, Kakko and Miller.
Kravs needs a chance, yes absolutely. Unfortunately this team just isn’t able to provide that to him. He’s going to do well on a team that isn’t as complete as the Rangers and is able to give him a regular top 6 role regardless of his deficiencies. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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I can answer, or try to at least. Kravtsov isn't great. He's probably not even good. But this year, his process is fine. He just can't score. The Ranger generate more shots, scoring chances and high danger chances when he's on the ice vs when he's not on the ice.
Is he worth the return of where he was drafted? Absolutely not. Could and should he be in the line up? Yes. - tomburton99
Do they miss a beat when he’s not in there? Nope |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Gallants career coaching record
353-254-65
That’s terrible - Slimtj100
Terrbile is not the issue right now. I specifically said lying. He has said multiple times:
He doesn't like changing the line up after wins.
He doesn't like ling juggling.
He knows what the ideal lines are.
He's done the exact opposite of that all year. Are the Rangers good? Yes is that coaching? Maybe. Is it the fact they are a talent group of players for the most part? Probably. |
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Slimtj100
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Location: Panarins NYC apt Joined: 03.04.2013
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Fully aware of the fact that Kravs is older, but this is still his first season in the NHL. It takes time to figure it out. Look at Laf, Kakko and Miller.
Kravs needs a chance, yes absolutely. Unfortunately this team just isn’t able to provide that to him. He’s going to do well on a team that isn’t as complete as the Rangers and is able to give him a regular top 6 role regardless of his deficiencies. - Bean_Dip
Krav needs a new org. The quicker it happens the better for him and the rangers. It’s conveniently forgotten about what a cry baby he was before this year. And how he didn’t want to put the work in. His decreasing value is 90% his own fault (who would want him on their team?) and 10% GGs and/or Drury. Clark is the one who (frank)ed up drafting him in the first place. He got cute and it was a bad pick
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