How does saying that Tortorella has done a better job than Yeo, who was a terrible coach, which you argued with me about. Support that Tortorella is a miracle worker who should be the Jack Adams award winner according to you?
- MJL

No, I already addressed the Jack Adams comment. What I want to do now is turn it around to you. Tell me what coach would get more out of this roster and develop his players better than Torts has done this year, and furthermore, support that choice with facts as to how.

So do you think if Yeo was coaching this team they would have the same record?
- jd250

Ha ha, the Flyers really should have kept Yeo if they really wanted to tank. They'd probably be sitting at about 10 wins on the season with that clown behind the bench.

You beat me to it. Catchable/uncatchable is only relevant on PI calls, so that doesn't come into play here. And again, the player admitted to committing the infraction, so not sure where the beef is. I also disagree that Mahomes is a poser. High ankle sprains are all they are cracked up to be and they take a long time to heal. I'm guessing that he was in serious pain after that tackle at the end of the half and he gutted it out. Both QB's played great games, but Hurts made that one error that you can't afford in big games. The Chiefs made adjustments at halftime and the Eagles never got their bearings again on defense. The ref DID NOT cost them the game.
- Phillywhiteout

My point being pretty simple. They let them play all game….let a lot go. I don’t remember a single holding call all night on either offensive lines….I was trying to remember a game where that happened. To throw the flag there? It’s a ticky tack call.
Did the ref cost them the game ? Of course not. Did he effectively end the game ? Of course he did. It would have really been a thrilling end if the Eagles would have gotten the ball back.
A few take aways….field condition was embarrassing. Eagles D made no adjustments to even attempt to slow down Mahomes. Maddox had a brutal game…but he wasn’t alone on that d…I don’t believe they got a stop in the entire second half. Hurts really is a stud. The inability for the offence to get the plays in to Hurts/or player substitution in the second half ended up costing them a time out…which proved costly…they had gotten away with it once and just took the penalty.
It was a great season.

No, I already addressed the Jack Adams comment. What I want to do now is turn it around to you. Tell me what coach would get more out of this roster and develop his players better than Torts has done this year, and furthermore, support that choice with facts as to how.
- jd250

Your question doesn't make sense. It would be complete speculation and there wouldn't be any facts involved. I can come up with plenty of coaches that are better than Tortorella. You're asking me to come up with facts towards future speculation and something that hasn't happened. That is disingenuous. You didn't address the Jack Adams comment, I did.

I'm not sure how you can ask referees to let a call go with the game on the line that was blatantly obvious. In wide open space for everyone to see. The receiver clearly has the DB beaten and if not for the hold, it's a potential TD. That's not a call that is going to be let go.

Epic choke job by the defense. Andy called a hell of a game. That flag shouldn’t be thrown in a million years.
- StepfordSam

All of this is true.

Your question doesn't make sense. It would be complete speculation and there wouldn't be any facts involved. I can come up with plenty of coaches that are better than Tortorella. You're asking me to come up with facts towards future speculation and something that hasn't happened. That is disingenuous. You didn't address the Jack Adams comment, I did.
- MJL

Exactly! The same holds true for the question you asked me. I can't give you specifics about what other systems can be played with this roster. All I can do is say what I do know, which is what everyone else knew when the season started, that this roster would be competitive (because of Torts and Hart) but ultimately near the bottom of the league because it lacks a legitimate top line and a legitimate top defensive pairing. The same can said of Anaheim, Columbus (with their injuries), Arizona, Chicago, etc. All those teams have far fewer points than the Flyers do, so there you go. This is exactly what many predicted would happen, that by the Flyers hiring Torts they essentially took themselves out of the Bedard sweepstakes.

Your question doesn't make sense. It would be complete speculation and there wouldn't be any facts involved. I can come up with plenty of coaches that are better than Tortorella. You're asking me to come up with facts towards future speculation and something that hasn't happened. That is disingenuous. You didn't address the Jack Adams comment, I did.
- MJL

I really think if Coots, Atkinson and Ellis were healthy, and this team somehow nabbed a playoff spot Torts would be in the running for the Jack Adams award. I really think he has been that good, but they would never consider a coach for that award for getting a team to .500. I know you really don't like Torts, but I think he has done a more than commendable job with this team to date. I honestly doubt that there is a coach out there that could currently have this hap hazard roster at a better record to date.

My point being pretty simple. They let them play all game….let a lot go. I don’t remember a single holding call all night on either offensive lines….I was trying to remember a game where that happened. To throw the flag there? It’s a ticky tack call.
Did the ref cost them the game ? Of course not. Did he effectively end the game ? Of course he did. It would have really been a thrilling end if the Eagles would have gotten the ball back.
A few take aways….field condition was embarrassing. Eagles D made no adjustments to even attempt to slow down Mahomes. Maddox had a brutal game…but he wasn’t alone on that d…I don’t believe they got a stop in the entire second half. Hurts really is a stud. The inability for the offence to get the plays in to Hurts/or player substitution in the second half ended up costing them a time out…which proved costly…they had gotten away with it once and just took the penalty.
It was a great season.
- landros 2

It had a pretty high impact on a very important play in the game. The refs never want to decide a game, but they are out there to make calls that they feel could influence the outcome of the game. The call certainly could have been let go, but I think it was the right call. It boils down to Hurts' blunder in the first half and KC's adjustments at halftime. KC knew they had to make adjustments cause the were soundly outplayed in the first half and the Eagles coaching staff was probably content with their game and just said to keep doing what they were doing. Then they failed to make on the fly adjustments in the second half to counteract KC's adjustments. The Eagles defense did not stop KC's offense once in the second half and a couple of their TD's were embarrassingly easy.

Iggles fans keeping quiet about that second fumble return for a TD which while I agree was the right call, could have gone either way.

The refs did not decide the game. It wasn't the refs that allowed a record breaking punt return.

As for the high ankle sprain. That is the most painful injury I have ever received and I have had broken bones all over my body. They probably pumped Mahomes full of so many pain killers during halftime he couldn't feel the ground with one of his legs.
- MBFlyerfan

Yeah, I've had a couple high ankle sprains myself and many folks will tell you that a bad sprain is actually worse than a break pain wise. Agreed that they shot him up at halftime. The issue for the Eagles is that their vaunted defense had ZERO sacks on Mahomes and really didn't even get pressure on him that often.

I really think if Coots, Atkinson and Ellis were healthy, and this team somehow nabbed a playoff spot Torts would be in the running for the Jack Adams award. I really think he has been that good, but they would never consider a coach for that award for getting a team to .500. I know you really don't like Torts, but I think he has done a more than commendable job with this team to date. I honestly doubt that there is a coach out there that could currently have this hap hazard roster at a better record to date.
- Phillywhiteout

Tony -19 is bad.

What is the deal with Joel Farabee? What is his game supposed to be? Scorer? Playmaker? I haven't been impressed with him.

It had a pretty high impact on a very important play in the game. The refs never want to decide a game, but they are out there to make calls that they feel could influence the outcome of the game. The call certainly could have been let go, but I think it was the right call. It boils down to Hurts' blunder in the first half and KC's adjustments at halftime. KC knew they had to make adjustments cause the were soundly outplayed in the first half and the Eagles coaching staff was probably content with their game and just said to keep doing what they were doing. Then they failed to make on the fly adjustments in the second half to counteract KC's adjustments. The Eagles defense did not stop KC's offense once in the second half and a couple of their TD's were embarrassingly easy.
- Phillywhiteout

I won’t even say the ref decided the game…I think the Eagles made enough blunders to deserve their fate. I just don’t think after letting them play all game that’s a call you make. KC is a well deserving SB champ.

Tony -19 is bad.

What is the deal with Joel Farabee? What is his game supposed to be? Scorer? Playmaker? I haven't been impressed with him.
- cdearth23

Saying that Tony D is bad is an understatement. He makes Ghost look like a charmer defensively. Farabee has been pretty bad too, but I'm trying to give him a pass due to him coming off major off season surgery.

I won’t even say the ref decided the game…I think the Eagles made enough blunders to deserve their fate. I just don’t think after letting them play all game that’s a call you make. KC is a well deserving SB champ.
- landros 2

I guess we could also add that for the first time all season the Eagles were out muscled in the trenches. I think people underestimated KC's offensive line.

I guess we could also add that for the first time all season the Eagles were out muscled in the trenches. I think people underestimated KC's offensive line.
- Phillywhiteout

The Chiefs Oline was dominant. I was disappointed that Gannon didn’t at least offer up more 5-6 man fronts…KC played 2 safety’s high all year but really mixed it up last night. The Eagles sent 5 on a third down before the half and forced a punt…I’m not sure why they didn’t at least mix in some different pressures. Against Big Red, you can’t be that predictable.

I guess we could also add that for the first time all season the Eagles were out muscled in the trenches. I think people underestimated KC's offensive line.
- Phillywhiteout

Yep the d-line got whooped in the second half. Eagles defense made zero plays all night. I thought the holding call was valid but not one I would have made. They did not call it the 10 other times it occurred in the game.

Saying that Tony D is bad is an understatement. He makes Ghost look like a charmer defensively. Farabee has been pretty bad too, but I'm trying to give him a pass due to him coming off major off season surgery.
- Phillywhiteout

Same on his injury and surgery.

Watching him it seems like he is no-mans land when it comes to what kind of game he wants to play.

I guess we could also add that for the first time all season the Eagles were out muscled in the trenches. I think people underestimated KC's offensive line.
- Phillywhiteout

They also spoke about how Mahomes likes to call the "wrong" protection schemes sometimes to allow for some chaos in the pocket. SO many times it seems like the Eagles were getting to him only to slip away and make a play. It happened over and over again.

And happens all the time against every team for that matter.

Another article stating what I said weeks ago, that the Bruins will target Kevin Hayes!

https://www.yardbarker.co...eadline/s1_16448_38440270

Same on his injury and surgery.

Watching him it seems like he is no-mans land when it comes to what kind of game he wants to play.
- MBFlyerfan

At least Farabee is "sneaky tough" according to Torts

Another article stating what I said weeks ago, that the Bruins will target Kevin Hayes!

https://www.yardbarker.co...eadline/s1_16448_38440270
- jd250

It LITERALLY points to the same Sam Carchidi article as its source!

So ONE guy said it and you keep pointing to other "sources" that use Carchidi as its source and say it's "another" article.

Ha ha, the Flyers really should have kept Yeo if they really wanted to tank. They'd probably be sitting at about 10 wins on the season with that clown behind the bench.
- Phillywhiteout

It’s funny because it’s true.

Another article stating what I said weeks ago, that the Bruins will target Kevin Hayes!

https://www.yardbarker.co...eadline/s1_16448_38440270
- jd250

Zero chance..even less than zero

https://theathletic.com/4...spects-2023-logan-cooley/

Ranking the top 50 DRAFTED prospects under 23.

11. Cutter Gauthier, C/LW, 18 (Philadelphia Flyers — No. 5, 2022)
July 2022 rank: No. 35 (change: +24)

Between a 10-point performance at the world juniors that somehow felt snakebitten, and leading the Eagles in goals and points as a freshman, this has been a solid post-draft season for Gauthier.

The appeal of his game and makeup has always been obvious. Gauthier’s a net-focussed shooter but he has worked to turn himself into a net-driven one, playing a more intentional game that knows what it is. On the puck, he uses inside body positioning to get to the middle off the cycle or the rush. Off of it, he finishes his checks and looks to help his line get it back.

I wouldn’t say he’s a menacing power forward type, but he plays a very engaged, imposing, speed game. Gauthier’s also a strong skater and despite his heavy skew toward shooting and goals, I find he sees the ice well, hits seams when they’re there, and makes a lot of short plays as a passer off the wall (including off his backhand). His greatest strength is his catch-and-release. He can sling it. I do think he shoots a bit too much (a lot of his shots miss the net or are taken from low-percentage areas), but you can live with that. He’s got a readymade, projectable game and can put the puck in the net.

I fully expect Gauthier to be an impactful NHL player and scorer. I’m not sure he’ll be a star, and I’m not sure if I prefer him at the wing or center (I think I’d lean wing because of his play style as a shooter and strength along the wall, but with his skating and size the middle of the ice have some appeal, too), but he’s on a path to a nice career as a top-six forward.

Good to hear.

31. Cam York, LHD, 22 (Philadelphia Flyers — No. 14, 2019)
July 2022 rank: Not ranked

York, who has established himself as an NHL defenseman (and one of the Flyers’ better ones for that matter), was not going to appear on this list next year because of his age whether or not he made the leap that he has this year. Thankfully, though, he has also played his way off this list regardless of whether or not he would have aged out between now and then.......

Brink, Andrae, and Foerster got honorable mentions.