Saying that Tony D is bad is an understatement. He makes Ghost look like a charmer defensively.
- Phillywhiteout

Don't wanna say I told you all so, but I told you all so

Saying that Tony D is bad is an understatement. He makes Ghost look like a charmer defensively. Farabee has been pretty bad too, but I'm trying to give him a pass due to him coming off major off season surgery.
- Phillywhiteout

Breaking news: Flyers send Tony D to Arizona along with the 2023 1st just to clear up salary cap so they can send 2 2024 1sts to someone else for a 3rd pair overpaid defenseman. Unfortunately, that’s the type of stuff Fletcher has done recently.

https://theathletic.com/4...spects-2023-logan-cooley/

Ranking the top 50 DRAFTED prospects under 23.



Good to hear.





Brink, Andrae, and Foerster got honorable mentions.
- MBFlyerfan

Interesting to see Jiricek all the way up at number 3. I know Wheeler had Gauthier ranked lower than a lot of other draft pundits pre-draft, but cool to see him impressing him enough to be moved all the way to 11. Hoping we didn't miss out on a potential top 2 stud in David Jiricek though.

Exactly! The same holds true for the question you asked me. I can't give you specifics about what other systems can be played with this roster. All I can do is say what I do know, which is what everyone else knew when the season started, that this roster would be competitive (because of Torts and Hart) but ultimately near the bottom of the league because it lacks a legitimate top line and a legitimate top defensive pairing. The same can said of Anaheim, Columbus (with their injuries), Arizona, Chicago, etc. All those teams have far fewer points than the Flyers do, so there you go. This is exactly what many predicted would happen, that by the Flyers hiring Torts they essentially took themselves out of the Bedard sweepstakes.
- jd250

You don't realize it but you just made an argument against yourself. First of all, your intention was not to point out that you can't give specifics about other systems. You were trying to trap me but I blew that up by pointing out that what you asked for can't be given. Secondly, you've contradicted your early statement that the system they play is the only one they can play by now saying you can't give specifics on other systems the team can play. Lastly and most importantly, you blew up your own argument that Tortorella should win the Jack Adams hands down. You don't win that on a bad team with the team being what everyone thought they would be.

I really think if Coots, Atkinson and Ellis were healthy, and this team somehow nabbed a playoff spot Torts would be in the running for the Jack Adams award. I really think he has been that good, but they would never consider a coach for that award for getting a team to .500. I know you really don't like Torts, but I think he has done a more than commendable job with this team to date. I honestly doubt that there is a coach out there that could currently have this hap hazard roster at a better record to date.
- Phillywhiteout

He's done a commendable job. He has the team playing a better and more cohesive team game than they played under the previous two coaches. That's all he's done, however. He hasn't been a miracle worker and he isn't a coach of the year candidate.

Another article stating what I said weeks ago, that the Bruins will target Kevin Hayes!

https://www.yardbarker.co...eadline/s1_16448_38440270
- jd250

LOL, the article did not state that the Bruins will target Hayes. The article offered zero evidence or legitimate sources to say that Boston will target Hayes.

Here is the key sentence in that article

" Although that said team was not specified, I do wonder if it could be the Bruins."

Then the article goes on to SPECULATE why Boston might look to trade for Hayes.

There are going to be tons of speculative articles leading up to the deadline. There is every year. None of it means anything.

Don't wanna say I told you all so, but I told you all so
- Tomahawk

When the Flyers traded for him, I posted that Angelo was pretty good offensively but really bad defensively. Of course, jd250 told me that Angelo had improved defensively and was much better than he was earlier in his career. We know that to be false.

Another article stating what I said weeks ago, that the Bruins will target Kevin Hayes!

https://www.yardbarker.co...eadline/s1_16448_38440270
- jd250

nothing in that article states that the bruins ARE targeting hayes - NOTHING

When the Flyers traded for him, I posted that Angelo was pretty good offensively but really bad defensively. Of course, jd250 told me that Angelo had improved defensively and was much better than he was earlier in his career. We know that to be false.
- MJL

IIRC he also claimed that TDA would improve defensively under Torts lol.

Now you have Torts openly calling the guy a "liability" 😂

LOL, the article did not state that the Bruins will target Hayes. The article offered zero evidence or legitimate sources to say that Boston will target Hayes.

Here is the key sentence in that article

" Although that said team was not specified, I do wonder if it could be the Bruins."

Then the article goes on to SPECULATE why Boston might look to trade for Hayes.

There are going to be tons of speculative articles leading up to the deadline. There is every year. None of it means anything.
- MJL

Well I read the headline in the article and it states "SHOULD" so it's an opinion piece recommending what the bruins should do. Not what they will.

I think if Hayes WAS a target of the bruins it would be offseason and I think they would be in desperation for centers

My point being pretty simple. They let them play all game….let a lot go. I don’t remember a single holding call all night on either offensive lines….I was trying to remember a game where that happened. To throw the flag there? It’s a ticky tack call.
Did the ref cost them the game ? Of course not. Did he effectively end the game ? Of course he did. It would have really been a thrilling end if the Eagles would have gotten the ball back.
A few take aways….field condition was embarrassing. Eagles D made no adjustments to even attempt to slow down Mahomes. Maddox had a brutal game…but he wasn’t alone on that d…I don’t believe they got a stop in the entire second half. Hurts really is a stud. The inability for the offence to get the plays in to Hurts/or player substitution in the second half ended up costing them a time out…which proved costly…they had gotten away with it once and just took the penalty.
It was a great season.
- landros 2

All true in my view. The holding call is not why we lost but did deny us a chance to send it to OT or to win outright. And, it was a great season. Last year, we did not beat a single playoff team and only beat 1 team with a winning record. Plus, Hurts is a ball player.

My point being pretty simple. They let them play all game….let a lot go. I don’t remember a single holding call all night on either offensive lines….I was trying to remember a game where that happened. To throw the flag there? It’s a ticky tack call.
Did the ref cost them the game ? Of course not. Did he effectively end the game ? Of course he did. It would have really been a thrilling end if the Eagles would have gotten the ball back.
A few take aways….field condition was embarrassing. Eagles D made no adjustments to even attempt to slow down Mahomes. Maddox had a brutal game…but he wasn’t alone on that d…I don’t believe they got a stop in the entire second half. Hurts really is a stud. The inability for the offence to get the plays in to Hurts/or player substitution in the second half ended up costing them a time out…which proved costly…they had gotten away with it once and just took the penalty.
It was a great season.
- landros 2

I get and respect your point of view on the call. It does make logical sense so I see why you'd be upset about it.

I agree. The conditions were terrible. Eagles kicker barely got a kick off from slipping at one point.

My friend and I were watching and before the game I told him that Mahomes and KC have been here before. Only 4 on the eagles team in 2017 remain. So if things get dicey, KC has more experience and I would trust in them to recover from any faultering. Eagles proved my point in the second half. I am by no means a football expert but I felt the play calls just weren't good for the eagles in the second half. No real run game from what I recall. KC only had to shut down Hurts and make him make great plays to get anything done. Which he did do at times.

Sirianni used all his tricks in the first half and KC adjusted and crushed them in the second half because of it.

IIRC he also claimed that TDA would improve defensively under Torts lol.

Now you have Torts openly calling the guy a "liability" 😂
- Tomahawk

They just haven't been able to work their magic with him like they have with Rostolainen. Who apparently is having his best NHL season and is greatly improved.

I get and respect your point of view on the call. It does make logical sense so I see why you'd be upset about it.

I agree. The conditions were terrible. Eagles kicker barely got a kick off from slipping at one point.

My friend and I were watching and before the game I told him that Mahomes and KC have been here before. Only 4 on the eagles team in 2017 remain. So if things get dicey, KC has more experience and I would trust in them to recover from any faultering. Eagles proved my point in the second half. I am by no means a football expert but I felt the play calls just weren't good for the eagles in the second half. No real run game from what I recall. KC only had to shut down Hurts and make him make great plays to get anything done. Which he did do at times.

Sirianni used all his tricks in the first half and KC adjusted and crushed them in the second half because of it.
- Aaron_85

I just think the Chiefs won the second half. The Eagles had trouble running the ball with the RB's and they didn't get any pressure on Mahomes. The Cheifs O line beat the Eagles D line and of course, Mahomes was Mahomes. The Eagles defense lost he game. They didn't play well overall.

Eagles 1-3 Super Bowls
Flyers 2-6 Cup Finals
Phillies 2-6 World Series
76ers 1-4 NBA Finals

That's 6-19. Yikes. What a tortured history.

IIRC he also claimed that TDA would improve defensively under Torts lol.

Now you have Torts openly calling the guy a "liability" 😂
- Tomahawk

https://theathletic.com/4...rs-tony-deangelo-mistake/

Tortorella isn’t kidding that DeAngelo needs to be better defensively. Out of all NHL defensemen with at least 200 minutes played at even strength this season, DeAngelo ranks third-worst in the league in terms of impact on his team’s ability to prevent expected goals, ahead of only John Klingberg and Ian Mitchell. Only six blueliners have been on the ice for more high-danger chances against per 60 minutes. By all public statistical models and measures, DeAngelo has been one of the worst defensemen in the NHL this season.

DeAngelo, as Tortorella acknowledged this week, is what he is. And the decision to acquire him in the first place — and pay him like a far better player than he actually is — stands as yet another total misevaluation from the Philadelphia front office.

When the Flyers traded for him, I posted that Angelo was pretty good offensively but really bad defensively. Of course, jd250 told me that Angelo had improved defensively and was much better than he was earlier in his career. We know that to be false.
- MJL

To be accurate, I said Tony in a interview states he was working on this defensive side of his game and was taking pride in that he was improving. He was a +30 last year. This year on a bad team, there is nowhere to hide evidently.

They just haven't been able to work their magic with him like they have with Rostolainen. Who apparently is having his best NHL season and is greatly improved.
- MJL

Risto is the Flyers best defenseman is is now firmly planted in the top 4!

LOL, the article did not state that the Bruins will target Hayes. The article offered zero evidence or legitimate sources to say that Boston will target Hayes.

Here is the key sentence in that article

" Although that said team was not specified, I do wonder if it could be the Bruins."

Then the article goes on to SPECULATE why Boston might look to trade for Hayes.

There are going to be tons of speculative articles leading up to the deadline. There is every year. None of it means anything.
- MJL

Bottom line .. get ready for it .. its coming!

To be accurate, I said Tony in a interview states he was working on this defensive side of his game and was taking pride in that he was improving. He was a +30 last year. This year on a bad team, there is nowhere to hide evidently.
- jd250

That's not accurate.

Risto is the Flyers best defenseman is is now firmly planted in the top 4!
- jd250

Of course he is!

Bottom line .. get ready for it .. its coming!
- jd250

I'm ready for it.

Eagles 1-3 Super Bowls
Flyers 2-6 Cup Finals
Phillies 2-6 World Series
76ers 1-4 NBA Finals

That's 6-19. Yikes. What a tortured history.
- PLindbergh31

i'd just be happy if the flyers could roster a competent team in the next decade