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Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:15 AM ET
Where’s 89 with all the damn rumors??


- Pairo11


Timo Meier: cooled off
Chycrun - Adams keeping tabs on (not overpaying )
Luke schenn - backup plan (maybe)
Brock Boser - Canucks want to dump. Adams listening
Demko - Canucks rebuilding
Hanafin

That is about all we know. When pooling together sources
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:17 AM ET
- Elias plays the more premium position (Center vs Winger)

- Elias is a better player (although Timo is elite himself so not necessarily taking a shot at him)

-Elias is signed through next season whereas Timo expires this season. Elias is also two years younger (perhaps plays a role in the return)

It would take a haul to get Pettersson out of Vancouver

- Swedish_Jesus


Add in ….. we would have another swed lol

I agree Elias is the better player. But to beat the bruins or Tampa. I think timo would be better. He’s a power forward with skill. Kind of like adding another tuch
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:19 AM ET
+320 on the Workhorse from Whitehorse. That's a good payday on a night where goals will happen.
- lacaprup


Dahlin is at +400.

Wonder what a parlay would look like of both scoring?
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:20 AM ET
Does the big trade change the predicted Sabres win over the Leaves at home? Of course not. There are few certainties in life, but the Sabres own the Leaves in Buffalo and Hamilton, and Ryan O'Reilly hates hockey in Buffalo.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:24 AM ET
Does the big trade change the predicted Sabres win over the Leaves at home? Of course not. There are few certainties in life, but the Sabres own the Leaves in Buffalo and Hamilton, and Ryan O'Reilly hates hockey in Buffalo.
- lacaprup


If I were to make a bills / Sabres rebuild comparison.

We would be in year 2 of the josh allen development stage. That is where the Sabres are at.

Young team still developing. Showed some good signs and some bad signs. Which is fine. Also found some core pieces

We aren’t ready for a Von Miller signing. We could use a diggs trade. (Sabres wise)
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
My surprise Sabres acquisition is Travis Konecny.


Conditional 1, Rosen, 2nd

- ImThatGuy


A desirable acquisition for sure, but what would be Philly's motivation for moving him?
Doesn't seem to me Philly is looking to tear it down in view of Tort's being their coach.
Young, good contract, very good production...he's a guy to build around.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 18 @ 9:26 AM ET


We aren’t ready for a Von Miller signing. We could use a diggs trade. (Sabres wise)

- Sabretooth9


We can't make a trade as it would block our prospects we will draft this summer
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
We can't make a trade as it would block our prospects we will draft this summer
- homiedclown


Right ……. I mean people here wanted to add has beens and sign a vet just to sign a vet to not hit the cap floor.

What the Sabres have done this year has been great at letting the kids play. The core needed to prove themselves and they have for the most part

Your rosens Kuliches aren’t ready. See the point totals from Quinn and jj and see how it’s translated to being “nhl ready”

This season and what they are trying to do is much different than next
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:38 AM ET
Right ……. I mean people here wanted to add has beens and sign a vet just to sign a vet to not hit the cap floor.

What the Sabres have done this year has been great at letting the kids play. The core needed to prove themselves and they have for the most part

Your rosens Kuliches aren’t ready. See the point totals from Quinn and jj and see how it’s translated to being “nhl ready”

- Sabretooth9


What constitutes "NHL ready" though?
IMO it means the prospect has excelled in the AHL and has little more to learn there. They are then ready to learn the NHL game by playing and learning to overcome obstacles.
It doesn't mean (to me) that the prospect will excel immediately.

Maybe "NHL Ready" means Ready to Learn the NHL GAME
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:42 AM ET
What constitutes "NHL ready" though?
IMO it means the prospect has excelled in the AHL and has little more to learn there. They are then ready to learn the NHL game by playing and learning to overcome obstacles.
It doesn't mean (to me) that the prospect will excel immediately.

Maybe "NHL Ready" means Ready to Learn the NHL GAME

- IonSabres


See JJ and Quinn’s stats from roch. They lit up the AHL on a nightly basis with ease and then showed in the rookie camp this summer. They were lightyears ahead of all our other prospects

They both “graduated” to the nhl team for this year.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Feb 18 @ 9:42 AM ET

Maybe "NHL Ready" means Ready to Learn the NHL GAME

- IonSabres


Quote of the year nominee at February 18th
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
A desirable acquisition for sure, but what would be Philly's motivation for moving him?
Doesn't seem to me Philly is looking to tear it down in view of Tort's being their coach.
Young, good contract, very good production...he's a guy to build around.

- IonSabres

I thought Torts sent a letter to season ticket holders saying they have to rebuild and ta going to take time?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:48 AM ET
+320 on the Workhorse from Whitehorse. That's a good payday on a night where goals will happen.
- lacaprup

Just put a 5 leg parlay in.

Thompson
Barkov
Rantanen
Guentzle
Matthews

Anytime goal scorers.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
Right ……. I mean people here wanted to add has beens and sign a vet just to sign a vet to not hit the cap floor.

What the Sabres have done this year has been great at letting the kids play. The core needed to prove themselves and they have for the most part

Your rosens Kuliches aren’t ready. See the point totals from Quinn and jj and see how it’s translated to being “nhl ready”

This season and what they are trying to do is much different than next

- Sabretooth9

Who wanted has been's ?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 18 @ 9:53 AM ET
Who wanted has been's ?
- Buff36

Yeah, I don’t understand these wild accusations. Apparently we all just wanted the Sabres just to do things to do things which is completely inaccurate and made up in the fantasy land of peoples minds.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:54 AM ET
Yeah, I don’t understand these wild accusations. Apparently we all just wanted the Sabres just to do things to do things which is completely inaccurate and made up in the fantasy land of peoples minds.
- ImThatGuy

Pretty much!!
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 9:57 AM ET
Yeah, I don’t understand these wild accusations. Apparently we all just wanted the Sabres just to do things to do things which is completely inaccurate and made up in the fantasy land of peoples minds.
- ImThatGuy


A lot of people wanted plug in play players and called the Sabres a budget team.

female dogging then for not spending

Also earlier this year people wanted to send Krebs down. Quinn down and etc
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Feb 18 @ 10:03 AM ET
A lot of people wanted plug in play players and called the Sabres a budget team.

female dogging then for not spending

Also earlier this year people wanted to send Krebs down. Quinn down and etc

- Sabretooth9


What would have been wrong with sending Krebs down? He's 21 not 24. He was really awful before switch to center of 21 and 28.

I don't recall anyone asking for Quinn or Peterka to be sent down this year. Many called for them to see a game or three from the stands, which they did and may still do again this season, but sent down? Again, not a wild position either to send one of them down, but we had/have no one to replace them with.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:04 AM ET
See JJ and Quinn’s stats from roch. They lit up the AHL on a nightly basis with ease and then showed in the rookie camp this summer. They were lightyears ahead of all our other prospects

They both “graduated” to the nhl team for this year.

- Sabretooth9


Still more time left in the AHL season right? What Kulich is doing at 1-1/2 younger than Quinn was last year is pretty darn incredible.
Could he use another year in the A, probably should be a decision in another 7 months.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:04 AM ET
A lot of people wanted plug in play players and called the Sabres a budget team.

female dogging then for not spending

Also earlier this year people wanted to send Krebs down. Quinn down and etc

- Sabretooth9

I think people wanted that bishop money used to get a better player than comrie, vinny or lyubushkin

one quality piece is better than 3 turdburgers
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:06 AM ET
What would have been wrong with sending Krebs down? He's 21 not 24. He was really awful before switch to center of 21 and 28.

I don't recall anyone asking for Quinn or Peterka to be sent down this year. Many called for them to see a game or three from the stands, which they did and may still do again this season, but sent down? Again, not a wild position either to send one of them down, but we have no one to replace them with.

- lacaprup


Considering both Quinn and Peterka have had awful stretches of hockey it wouldn’t be so shocking if they went down.

Again if saying hey get Debrincat (40 goal ppg player) is a “plug and play guy” then I’ll take 12 plug and play forwards.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:07 AM ET
I thought Torts sent a letter to season ticket holders saying they have to rebuild and ta going to take time?
- ImThatGuy


Rebuild on the fly vs tear down.
It just doesn't make sense to me, and speaking for me only.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Feb 18 @ 10:09 AM ET
Considering both Quinn and Peterka have had awful stretches of hockey it wouldn’t be so shocking if they went down.

Again if saying hey get Debrincat (40 goal ppg player) is a “plug and play guy” then I’ll take 12 plug and play forwards.

- ImThatGuy


I can name the specific players I advocated for this offseason:
Cat - does not fit his equation
Ville Husso - does not fit his equation
Pat Kane - does fit his equation, but was never really serious. Just kind of a fun time. And, yes, there were others who would like Kane too.

Other than Pat Kane because he is the greatest American player of all time and from South Buffalo I don't know who he is talking about. And, let's face it, since he's been in the league Sabres fans have advocated trading for Pat Kane every offseason, and rightfully so.


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:16 AM ET
Considering both Quinn and Peterka have had awful stretches of hockey it wouldn’t be so shocking if they went down.

Again if saying hey get Debrincat (40 goal ppg player) is a “plug and play guy” then I’ll take 12 plug and play forwards.

- ImThatGuy


Ya, I think letting them learn the NHlL game after tearing up the AHL, especially in a Developement year as defined by Sabres leadership (not me) has far and away more value long term further franchise then wasting another year in the A.

I believe the position one takes on this is directly related to if one is viewing for this season only vs longer term view.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:19 AM ET
What would have been wrong with sending Krebs down? He's 21 not 24. He was really awful before switch to center of 21 and 28.

I don't recall anyone asking for Quinn or Peterka to be sent down this year. Many called for them to see a game or three from the stands, which they did and may still do again this season, but sent down? Again, not a wild position either to send one of them down, but we had/have no one to replace them with.

- lacaprup


Well, because they lose a year of development, in a year they defied as a year of Development.
They are looking at the longer view.
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