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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
Monahan would be a great add if the price is right for any team...if he's not one legged.
- AdamFrench

of course he would, very good player when healthy.
read this week Habs could offer him a 1y deal, time to prove he's healthy, than trade him for real next year.
not a bad idea for the team, and not a bad idea for the player either. if he likes it here of course.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 17 @ 4:23 PM ET
Low blow. Might be the worst deadline deal in the past 15 years.
- AdamFrench


worst ever ?
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
I think, with all of the injuries this year and last, coupled with the fact that we have players going day-to-day for weeks on end…..there should be an extensive audit done on the medical staff for the Habs. This isn’t right, normal or a way to manage players’ health in the short and/or long term.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
I think, with all of the injuries this year and last, coupled with the fact that we have players going day-to-day for weeks on end…..there should be an extensive audit done on the medical staff for the Habs. This isn’t right, normal or a way to manage players’ health in the short and/or long term.
- Snots33_77



I agree there's probably been some cases that were poorly managed, but we also have to consider where the team is at... I bet a lot of guys would've been back quicker had the habs been competing for a playoff spot, but under these circumstances there's no reason whatsoever to rush anyone.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think, with all of the injuries this year and last, coupled with the fact that we have players going day-to-day for weeks on end…..there should be an extensive audit done on the medical staff for the Habs. This isn’t right, normal or a way to manage players’ health in the short and/or long term.
- Snots33_77

The crazy condensed schedule doesn't help either ... reduce the number of games and spread them out more over the season.

The damn Cup is awarded in June when it's hot outside ... they should end the season a month earlier.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:49 PM ET
I agree there's probably been some cases that were poorly managed, but we also have to consider where the team is at... I bet a lot of guys would've been back quicker had the habs been competing for a playoff spot, but under these circumstances there's no reason whatsoever to rush anyone.
- Pat1993


Injuries happen.

Not much you can do for some of these.

Part of that can be controlled to an extent with proper training, education, etc... which most NHL players should know by now. But there is an onus n the players and the team to ensure all players are physically ready to play.

I think HuGo have invested / built out these areas since coming on board.

But players go out and do dumb poop too - can't blame management for like when a Byron decides to go get punched in the face, etc...

The real issue is what the Habs are doing once a player gets injured. There is a lot of fair criticism over the handling of injured players. Organizationally, that needs to be addressed.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:50 PM ET
The crazy condensed schedule doesn't help either ... reduce the number of games and spread them out more over the season.

The damn Cup is awarded in June when it's hot outside ... they should end the season a month earlier.

- Garfield512


I think the all star break and then the week+ off periods each teams get during the season have forced the schedule to be compressed in other areas.

I am not sure if the extended time off makes things better or worse.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:51 PM ET
Injuries happen.

Not much you can do for some of these.

Part of that can be controlled to an extent with proper training, education, etc... which most NHL players should know by now. But there is an onus n the players and the team to ensure all players are physically ready to play.

I think HuGo have invested / built out these areas since coming on board.

But players go out and do dumb poop too - can't blame management for like when a Byron decides to go get punched in the face, etc...

The real issue is what the Habs are doing once a player gets injured. There is a lot of fair criticism over the handling of injured players. Organizationally, that needs to be addressed.

- Mashadar


👍🏻
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Feb 17 @ 6:52 PM ET
I think, with all of the injuries this year and last, coupled with the fact that we have players going day-to-day for weeks on end…..there should be an extensive audit done on the medical staff for the Habs. This isn’t right, normal or a way to manage players’ health in the short and/or long term.
- Snots33_77


That’s a good point BUT there’s a lot that’s about hockey or team sport culture i mean who hasnt heard the “come on dont let the team down, play through pain u can do it”, by the time you’re a pro that’s just there in your mind and it’s normal to play through pain. Price said it: it’s the price you pay for playing through pain (your body not being able to cope anymore). These guys beed to be protected from themselves, Hughes said it
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:53 PM ET
I think the all star break and then the week+ off periods each teams get during the season have forced the schedule to be compressed in other areas.

I am not sure if the extended time off makes things better or worse.

- Mashadar


The allstar break is almost moot when all teams and players go right back to playing 4 games a week and beginning the playoff stretch. Players never used to need a break. It seems like 6 of one and a half a dozen of an another. Really doesn’t make a difference in the long run.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:54 PM ET
That’s a good point BUT there’s a lot that’s about hockey or team sport culture i mean who hasnt heard the “come on dont let the team down, play through pain u can do it”, by the time you’re a pro that’s just there in your mind and it’s normal to play through pain. Price said it: it’s the price you pay for playing through pain (your body not being able to cope anymore). These guys beed to be protected from themselves, Hughes said it
- Karine Hains


Excellent response Karine!! And I love that quote as the players are looking out for today and not necessarily the longevity of their career. Look at Gally, what is he? 30 years old? And pretty much done already?

EDIT: I wish that was in place when I played! I have no knees left and down to 1 hip from goaltending and taking Chris Pronger slap shots off of my bare knees as the pads didn’t have those fancy protectors back then! Lol
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Feb 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
Excellent response Karine!! And I love that quote as the players are looking out for today and not necessarily the longevity of their career. Look at Gally, what is he? 30 years old? And pretty much done already?
- Snots33_77

Well yeah but it’s normal in team sports i think. I was a handball goalie when i was a teen and my coach played the guilt trip card so much, “come on if you don’t play we’re done we don’t have another goalie”, by the time i turned 22 i had 4 knee operations… i imagine there’s a similar culture in hockey
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 6:58 PM ET
Well yeah but it’s normal in team sports i think. I was a handball goalie when i was a teen and my coach played the guilt trip card so much, “come on if you don’t play we’re done we don’t have another goalie”, by the time i turned 22 i had 4 knee operations… i imagine there’s a similar culture in hockey
- Karine Hains


I edited my response too early and agree with you! I was pressured because I was the starter and our backup was like wet tissue paper. Lol
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:05 PM ET
there aren't hundreds of Monahan-type players out there though, and it's not that risky since the team trading for him wouldn't lose a high pick if he's injured again in the first round for example.
- Pat1993

gimpy?
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:08 PM ET
Low blow. Might be the worst deadline deal in the past 15 years.
- AdamFrench

does danault for horseface an condiment count as a deadline deal? cause that isn't far behind.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
does danault for horseface an condiment count as a deadline deal? cause that isn't far behind.
- Gramps28

dale has feelings you know.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:11 PM ET
dale has feelings you know.
- kicksave856


He’s glue now. Sorry kick…..
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:13 PM ET
dale has feelings you know.
- kicksave856

not in his face. takes too long to reach the synapes.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:15 PM ET
not in his face. takes too long to reach the synapes.
- Gramps28


😂🤣
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 17 @ 7:15 PM ET
dale has feelings you know.
- kicksave856

Were's that guy now? ... glue factory?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 17 @ 7:17 PM ET
Were's that guy now? ... glue factory?
- Garfield512

i prefer to think he's running free on the beaches of assateague island, making little horses left and right.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 17 @ 7:17 PM ET
He’s glue now. Sorry kick…..
- Snots33_77

Just saw your post after I posted mine ... you were faster than me.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Feb 17 @ 7:29 PM ET
i prefer to think he's running free on the beaches of assateague island, making little horses left and right.
- kicksave856

i hate that guy
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 7:33 PM ET
i prefer to think he's running free on the beaches of assateague island, making little horses left and right.
- kicksave856


*googles*


*is kinda disappointed*
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 17 @ 7:33 PM ET
i hate that guy
- Gramps28

dale with it!
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