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landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
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Feb 22 @ 8:35 AM ET
Oilers are not good 5 on 5. Skinner is a sub par goalie.
- mickel25

Didn’t he make the all star game?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 8:53 AM ET
Provorov was very good last night
- mickel25


I didn't see the game but looking at the stats, he wasn't good. He played the majority of ice time against McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins. You could say he survived by not allowing any 5 on 5 goals against but that's about it.

CF% 34.48% xGF% 17.77% SCF% 18.75% HDSCF% 20.00%
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
2-6 it is, perfect to not let CF think he is not a seller. Just need to get to 6-7th but have solid play from the core, it will take talent to thread the needle but they can do it
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 22 @ 9:36 AM ET
I don’t know if it’s come up but I was never a Brandon Manning fan. However, not the game where he ended McDavid’s season but the next time they met. I guess it was reported that he told McDavid he did it on purpose. Obviously he didn’t if you watch the play but I can respect a player who is willing to do what it takes to get into the very best’s head and I think Manning did.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Feb 22 @ 10:23 AM ET
2-6 it is, perfect to not let CF think he is not a seller. Just need to get to 6-7th but have solid play from the core, it will take talent to thread the needle but they can do it
- wcorvette

They have shown they are not capable to thread that needle and do it.

This "core" group is noting special in any way. Look at the conf. Where do you see the Flyers competing and when? Cant wait to the overpay ivan tk and hart.
wcorvette
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Feb 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
They have shown they are not capable to thread that needle and do it.

This "core" group is noting special in any way. Look at the conf. Where do you see the Flyers competing and when? Cant wait to the overpay ivan tk and hart.

- hello it's me 2050



6-7 from bottom of league
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
I didn't see the game but looking at the stats, he wasn't good. He played the majority of ice time against McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins. You could say he survived by not allowing any 5 on 5 goals against but that's about it.

CF% 34.48% xGF% 17.77% SCF% 18.75% HDSCF% 20.00%

- MJL

I was there and Provy played quite well actually
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Feb 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
They have shown they are not capable to thread that needle and do it.

This "core" group is noting special in any way. Look at the conf. Where do you see the Flyers competing and when? Cant wait to the overpay ivan tk and hart.

- hello it's me 2050


It’s true. Way too many what ifs in the Flyers “plan”, which is ultimately handled by an incompetent GM.

It’s pie in the sky thinking and fans shouldn’t get caught up in it. I understand wanting to have a positive attitude but this isn’t grounded in any kind of reality.
wcorvette
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Feb 22 @ 11:27 AM ET
I was there and Provy played quite well actually
- Daceroni



Playing well is a 5 man game, they just don’t have the forwards to support the D vs better competition, numbers are great but context is more important
wcorvette
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Feb 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Man this team is poor on face offs.
- landros 2



They are, seems the draws that count they really struggle. If Brown can’t win D zone draws he is useless or don’t lose them clean
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
I didn't see the game but looking at the stats, he wasn't good. He played the majority of ice time against McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins. You could say he survived by not allowing any 5 on 5 goals against but that's about it.

CF% 34.48% xGF% 17.77% SCF% 18.75% HDSCF% 20.00%

- MJL


Provy defended a lot and looked good defensively. Hopefully, they keep the pairing together and give him and Sanheim a chance to build some chemistry in their transition game. I thought maybe Sanheim should skate it up ice more, but Provy is capable also so they just need a playbook.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
Oilers are not good 5 on 5. Skinner is a sub par goalie.
- mickel25

it's funny how they never get any defense to play with mcdavid
rayc16
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
Provy defended a lot and looked good defensively. Hopefully, they keep the pairing together and give him and Sanheim a chance to build some chemistry in their transition game. I thought maybe Sanheim should skate it up ice more, but Provy is capable also so they just need a playbook.
- NC Flyers Fan

What happened to the Provy-York pairing?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
I was there and Provy played quite well actually
- Daceroni


I guess it depends on your definition of playing quite well. What those numbers tell us is that when Provorov was on the ice at 5 on 5. Edmonton dominated play. That is not playing quite well in today's NHL
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Feb 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
That's how I've gotten... I am way less invested in this team now than I have ever been. Years ago I'd never miss a game. Now I follow them and read about them while I poop but outside of that... meh
- Bob Habib


Flyers board used to get 70+ pages of posts on game day and now it's lucky if it gets that every 3 weeks.

A lot of people are way less invested but the people in charge don't care. Win or lose, it doesn't affect Fletcher's paycheck or Scott's paycheck. Fletcher's got so many titles for the Flyers that if he gave up the GM job he would just be pulling the same poop out of the limelight. He will be in Flyers management until he decides to retire.

https://www.crossingbroad...-king-making-network.html
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
Question for anyone who knows. So with Coots, Ellis and Cam on LTIR, I see Capfriendly only has the Flyers at about a little over a million in cap space. I thought LTIR allows them to circumvent some of the cap issues. I thought they’d have more space to perhaps even be that 3rd team who gets draft picks just for eating salary. What am I missing? Thanks.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 22 @ 12:53 PM ET
Flyers board used to get 70+ pages of posts on game day and now it's lucky if it gets that every 3 weeks.

A lot of people are way less invested but the people in charge don't care. Win or lose, it doesn't affect Fletcher's paycheck or Scott's paycheck. Fletcher's got so many titles for the Flyers that if he gave up the GM job he would just be pulling the same poop out of the limelight. He will be in Flyers management until he decides to retire.

https://www.crossingbroad...-king-making-network.html

- Flyers_01


Comcast and the rest of Flyers management doesn’t seem to accept that anger is being overtaken by apathy. Remember these are the same morons who said the attendance was down due to Covid while the 6ers were selling out every game in the same city, same building.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
Question for anyone who knows. So with Coots, Ellis and Cam on LTIR, I see Capfriendly only has the Flyers at about a little over a million in cap space. I thought LTIR allows them to circumvent some of the cap issues. I thought they’d have more space to perhaps even be that 3rd team who gets draft picks just for eating salary. What am I missing? Thanks.
- mikeyo27


LTIR can only be used when replacing an injured player puts the team over the upper limit. You have to use your available cap space first. Ryan Ellis is the only player currently on LTIR for the Flyers. Couturier and Atkinson are on IR. If necessary and the Flyers add cap, those two players can be moved to LTIR to increase the working LTIR cap space available to the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
Comcast and the rest of Flyers management doesn’t seem to accept that anger is being overtaken by apathy. Remember these are the same morons who said the attendance was down due to Covid while the 6ers were selling out every game in the same city, same building.
- mikeyo27


Their gauge for that is game attendance and ticket sales.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Feb 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
LTIR can only be used when replacing an injured player puts the team over the upper limit. You have to use your available cap space first. Ryan Ellis is the only player currently on LTIR for the Flyers. Couturier and Atkinson are on IR. If necessary and the Flyers add cap, those two players can be moved to LTIR to increase the working LTIR cap space available to the Flyers.
- MJL


Very clear and much appreciated. Makes sense now! Thanks!
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Didn’t he make the all star game?
- landros 2


So did Hayes so.........
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
I was there and Provy played quite well actually
- Daceroni


I was not there but I watched the whole game. Provorov took on McDavid the whole game at 5 on 5. McDavid had one point at 5 on 5. That is a win in my opinion.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
The Oilers PP is deadly.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 22 @ 1:10 PM ET
I guess it depends on your definition of playing quite well. What those numbers tell us is that when Provorov was on the ice at 5 on 5. Edmonton dominated play. That is not playing quite well in today's NHL
- MJL


more than one player on the ice. why just stats don't tell the whole story. amazing
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
more than one player on the ice. why just stats don't tell the whole story. amazing

- Peter Richards


Agreed. Provorov was really good H2H on McDavid last night. He handled McDavid's speed very well. The Flyers never have good possession numbers and I think most teams don't against McDavid.
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