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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:53 PM ET
2nd really for me
- Upstate_isles

Crap, beat my edit. Meant to say the second
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:54 PM ET
Unfortunately I think both them and Det will pass us
- keaner17

Wouldn’t surprise me. I just see Detroit as a definite Sabres not so much.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 24 @ 9:54 PM ET
Unfortunately I think both them and Det will pass us
- keaner17

If so better pick, I want the playoffs but Boston......you never know but they are a machine
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 24 @ 10:10 PM ET
Isles slept through the second and it buried them.
- keaner17



Quote of the thread!
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Feb 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
Quote of the thread!
- nyisles7

Banged up, smoking budz, drinking vodka, now.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
Banged up, smoking budz, drinking vodka, now.
- streaks

Didn't take long to supplant my quote of the thread....
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Feb 25 @ 10:28 AM ET

Impact player with small minutes on ice was Martin last night.

Does anyone see LOU trading him at deadline?


John Tonelli for HOF
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 25 @ 10:46 AM ET
Impact player with small minutes on ice was Martin last night.

Does anyone see LOU trading him at deadline?


John Tonelli for HOF

- Tee56


Cannot see Lou selling as long as the team has a chance to make the playoffs.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Didn't take long to supplant my quote of the thread....
- keaner17

streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Feb 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Didn't take long to supplant my quote of the thread....
- keaner17

streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Feb 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
Cannot see Lou selling as long as the team has a chance to make the playoffs.
- ses111

I can't either.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Feb 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
Cannot see Lou selling as long as the team has a chance to make the playoffs.
- ses111

Agreed. According to this website, the Isles still have a 32% chance of making the playoffs. Lou likes to roll the dice....
http://www.playoffstatus....nhl/easternstandings.html
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Cannot see Lou selling as long as the team has a chance to make the playoffs.
- ses111

Nobody is taking on Martin and his extra year. Zero, nobody, zilch. Also, sure Martin has played well but the reluctance to throw an true offensive player up on that line in the last ten mins of the third down by two with lambert was to me stupid. Sure, Martin had five shots on goal yada yada blah blah but if anyone thinks he should have the opportunity to play himself off that line I’ll go ahead and disagree.

We have to give this team the best opportunity to score especially when it’s needed down by a couple of goals. I get spreading out what little scoring we have but Horvat hasn’t exactly excelled with Martin on his line. That matters to me a helluva lot more then what Martin is doing.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nobody is taking on Martin and his extra year. Zero, nobody, zilch. Also, sure Martin has played well but the reluctance to throw an true offensive player up on that line in the last ten mins of the third down by two with lambert was to me stupid. Sure, Martin had five shots on goal yada yada blah blah but if anyone thinks he should have the opportunity to play himself off that line I’ll go ahead and disagree.

We have to give this team the best opportunity to score especially when it’s needed down by a couple of goals. I get spreading out what little scoring we have but Horvat hasn’t exactly excelled with Martin on his line. That matters to me a helluva lot more then what Martin is doing.

- Cptmjl



I agree about MM and nobody trading for him. I also agree about spreading out the offense unless you need goals late in the game. This goes back to Barry as well. As good a coach Barry was. he was also frustrating with his lineup decisions and understanding when offense was needed.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
I agree about MM and nobody trading for him. I also agree about spreading out the offense unless you need goals late in the game. This goes back to Barry as well. As good a coach Barry was. he was also frustrating with his lineup decisions and understanding when offense was needed.
- ses111

I like Martin but if the thought is he’s great up on that line(this isn’t the first time we’ve done this btw) then why didn’t he stick last time? Why don’t we just leave him there? Easy answers to those of course. I would have thrown everything at the Kings in the last ten mins what little offense we have. Just my two cents. I say this giving credit to Martin for how he’s played. He just doesn’t belong there.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
I like Martin but if the thought is he’s great up on that line(this isn’t the first time we’ve done this btw) then why didn’t he stick last time? Why don’t we just leave him there? Easy answers to those of course. I would have thrown everything at the Kings in the last ten mins what little offense we have. Just my two cents. I say this giving credit to Martin for how he’s played. He just doesn’t belong there.
- Cptmjl



I like Martin as well but not as a 1st line player. This goes back to the team simply not being built well. They have too many 3rd and 4th line grinding type players and lack the skill and speed for today's game.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 25 @ 11:56 AM ET
I like Martin as well but not as a 1st line player. This goes back to the team simply not being built well. They have too many 3rd and 4th line grinding type players and lack the skill and speed for today's game.
- ses111

Lambert’s hands are obviously tied with injuries but you have to give your offensive players every opportunity to score when you’re down a couple goals imo.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Lambert’s hands are obviously tied with injuries but you have to give your offensive players every opportunity to score when you’re down a couple goals imo.
- Cptmjl


All sports are moving towards more offense. Islanders are slow to come around to this type of game. Does not mean you go back to the Cappy and Doug no defense days. Look at how the Islanders get very little help from the defense in terms of offense. Pulock having 3 goals is a joke.
chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Feb 25 @ 12:20 PM ET
Got a cap question. With all these trades where a team retains salary. In the off-season, let's use the Rangers as example. Say they have 10 million in cap space . Could they have 3 other teams sign Kane , Meier and Orlov to deals of 8, 10 and 5 million. Then trade all three to Rangers in separate deals . Retain 50 % on each deal and the Rangers get 3 really good players and stay under cap. I know Orlov may not be considered really good but I couldn't think of another UFA D Man for example. Is that legai??
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
Nobody is taking on Martin and his extra year. Zero, nobody, zilch. Also, sure Martin has played well but the reluctance to throw an true offensive player up on that line in the last ten mins of the third down by two with lambert was to me stupid. Sure, Martin had five shots on goal yada yada blah blah but if anyone thinks he should have the opportunity to play himself off that line I’ll go ahead and disagree.

We have to give this team the best opportunity to score especially when it’s needed down by a couple of goals. I get spreading out what little scoring we have but Horvat hasn’t exactly excelled with Martin on his line. That matters to me a helluva lot more then what Martin is doing.

- Cptmjl

He threw Palmieri out with horvat and Lee with 2 or 3 minutes left before they pulled the goalie
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
He threw Palmieri out with horvat and Lee with 2 or 3 minutes left before they pulled the goalie
- Upstate_isles

I said throw someone up there that could help them.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
How is it that year after the year, the Rangers manage to make key trades and not give up the farm?
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Got a cap question. With all these trades where a team retains salary. In the off-season, let's use the Rangers as example. Say they have 10 million in cap space . Could they have 3 other teams sign Kane , Meier and Orlov to deals of 8, 10 and 5 million. Then trade all three to Rangers in separate deals . Retain 50 % on each deal and the Rangers get 3 really good players and stay under cap. I know Orlov may not be considered really good but I couldn't think of another UFA D Man for example. Is that legai??
- chazpet


My question is why cant this team find ways to work those types of deals. We give up the house, the summer home, the Porsche, twin daughters.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
How is it that year after the year, the Rangers manage to make key trades and not give up the farm?
- Nfdbulldawg


Because of most players wanting to play for them and NTC's. Players have the freedom to sign with any team when they reach UFA. No reason they should have NTC as well.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Feb 25 @ 1:55 PM ET
How is it that year after the year, the Rangers manage to make key trades and not give up the farm?
- Nfdbulldawg


Because the player's hot wives or girlfriends want to live in Manhattan.
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