John Keim
ESPN Staff Writer
The Washington Commanders released quarterback Carson Wentz on Monday, in a move that had been long expected.

The move saves Washington $26.176 million on the salary cap this offseason. Wentz had two years remaining on his contract but had no guaranteed money.

Chicken man not listed for Buffalo at all
- Stripes77

excellent news, as it is possible then

Oh man I see it on my timehop every year freaking out about that ROR trade. I hated it at the time. Hated giving up the 1st, hated giving up Compher, hated ROR honestly. ROR grew on me and I think he was great but man I was against that trade. And now I want him back. So maybe it is still a thing about me not wanting to let go.
- Zschalberg

Well you can probably go back and see that I thought it was a stupid trade at the Time. We weren't ready for that yet. Especially after he traded away most of are D and forward prospects in 3 trades Winnipeg that stupid McNabb trade and then ROR and Zadorov.

EK at noon “Karlsson deal closer than it sounds”

Minutes later

Erik Karlsson “I haven’t been asked to waive and don’t expect to be asked”

For the discussions about Pasta, as promised.

2023-24
https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/3993410
2024-25
https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/3993453

Girgensons, Clague, Aube-Kubel are all placeholders of what I would expect a comparable player to make in that position.
- Zschalberg

Prob gonna have to bump up those salaries on Dahlin/Power my guy.

Well you can probably go back and see that I thought it was a stupid trade at the Time. We weren't ready for that yet. Especially after he traded away most of are D and forward prospects in 3 trades Winnipeg that stupid McNabb trade and then ROR and Zadorov.
- Buff36

I did eventually come around and convince myself that it was 4d chess and we were going to get there in no time. Good times.

Prob gonna have to bump up those salaries on Dahlin/Power my guy.
- JCSabs06

Potentially, I am thinking 18-20 between the two of them so I went on the lower end. I don't personally see them giving Power a huge one out of the gate, instead will try to do what they are doing with Thompson and Cozens. So I could see them doing 8-9 but who knows. That said, there is still room to wiggle in that situation and this is without any cap raises since I don't want to bank on that.

Edit: That said, Power is playing himself into a nice contract and you love to see it. He never had to go through all the coaches and systems and Kreugers that Dahlin did and you can tell the difference.

Potentially, I am thinking 18-20 between the two of them so I went on the lower end. I don't personally see them giving Power a huge one out of the gate, instead will try to do what they are doing with Thompson and Cozens. So I could see them doing 8-9 but who knows. That said, there is still room to wiggle in that situation and this is without any cap raises since I don't want to bank on that.

Edit: That said, Power is playing himself into a nice contract and you love to see it. He never had to go through all the coaches and systems and Kreugers that Dahlin did and you can tell the difference.
- Zschalberg

That will take him to UFA no?

I don't like a 5 year deal for him in that spot

That will take him to UFA no?

I don't like a 5 year deal for him in that spot
- Stripes77

I'd bridge him like Dahlin if possible, get as many years of him as possible

Potentially, I am thinking 18-20 between the two of them so I went on the lower end. I don't personally see them giving Power a huge one out of the gate, instead will try to do what they are doing with Thompson and Cozens. So I could see them doing 8-9 but who knows. That said, there is still room to wiggle in that situation and this is without any cap raises since I don't want to bank on that.

Edit: That said, Power is playing himself into a nice contract and you love to see it. He never had to go through all the coaches and systems and Kreugers that Dahlin did and you can tell the difference.
- Zschalberg

Yea, I've got it in my head that I'd be happy if they manage 20-22 over 8 years for those 2. Power has looked very good, particularly lately. Maybe Power takes a shorter contract at lower AAV but I'm scared of what that looks like when we have to resign him in 4/5 years.

Maybe Dahlin is feeling the vibes and makes it a 3 some at 7yrs 7.2m Avv with Tage and Cozens

Maybe Dahlin is feeling the vibes and makes it a 3 some at 7yrs 7.2m Avv with Tage and Cozens
- Buff36

Talk about highway robbery,

Maybe Dahlin is feeling the vibes and makes it a 3 some at 7yrs 7.2m Avv with Tage and Cozens
- Buff36

If he signs for that amount, then I will never question the vibes again!

If he signs for that amount, then I will never question the vibes again!
- Stripes77

Wouldn't need to charge the STH's more money with that kind of savings

Is there anything stopping a team from offering a guy an insane one year deal with a handshake deal that they sign long term after at a discount. Thinking pasta here next year at like 15ish and then try to get him around 5x$8.

That will take him to UFA no?

I don't like a 5 year deal for him in that spot
- Stripes77

Good point, I didn't pay attention too much to that. I would expect they either bridge him right to the RFA date or go full 8 years. Adams seems fine giving out long deals to guys based on smaller sample sizes, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do the extension for both Dahlin and Power this offseason. Get them out of the way, know what you have moving forward, and lock up your core. I believe that is when they are allowed to sign is this summer, 1 year before being a free agent again.

I'm not in the KA is a top 5 GM crowd, but if he signs these guys for reasonable deals like he did with Thompson, Cozens, and Samuelson I will sing his praises for sure.

Talk about highway robbery,
- DirtyDan

7 million is Buffalo is at least 10 in NYC, SanJose, LA. We do get the ass end on taxes, but $7 million a year in Buffalo, NY makes you King Tut.

Is there anything stopping a team from offering a guy an insane one year deal with a handshake deal that they sign long term after at a discount. Thinking pasta here next year at like 15ish and then try to get him around 5x$8.
- JCSabs06

Main thing would probably be the player thinking that one bad fall and you lose millions. Basically like a franchise tag in football. You make a lot of money fast but there's no guarantee. I don't believe there's anything to stop it in the CBA but am no expert by any means.

7 million is Buffalo is at least 10 in NYC, SanJose, LA. We do get the ass end on taxes, but $7 million a year in Buffalo, NY makes you King Tut.
- lacaprup

Poyer already talking about wanting to play in a state that doesn't take away half of your money. You might get more bang for your buck but it definitely is a hindrance in signing. But c'est la vie

Poyer already talking about wanting to play in a state that doesn't take away half of your money. You might get more bang for your buck but it definitely is a hindrance in signing. But c'est la vie
- Zschalberg

There's no denying the state taxes. Depending on municipality the property taxes can be easy like mine in the city of Buffalo or outrageous like many of our suburbs.

Main thing would probably be the player thinking that one bad fall and you lose millions. Basically like a franchise tag in football. You make a lot of money fast but there's no guarantee. I don't believe there's anything to stop it in the CBA but am no expert by any means.
- Zschalberg

True and I imagine most GMs are a bit hesitant that they pay the boatload of money and the guy just goes and takes the best UFA deal out there anyway. But I guess if you don't get the long term deal locked up by TDL day you just retain 50% and move on.

7 million is Buffalo is at least 10 in NYC, SanJose, LA. We do get the ass end on taxes, but $7 million a year in Buffalo, NY makes you King Tut.
- lacaprup

All 3 of those players are worth more than that 50mill contract.

Especially Tage and Dahl

Poyer already talking about wanting to play in a state that doesn't take away half of your money. You might get more bang for your buck but it definitely is a hindrance in signing. But c'est la vie
- Zschalberg

Yea and at some point the cost of living doesn't really eat into your celery the same way it does for your average non millionaire.

True and I imagine most GMs are a bit hesitant that they pay the boatload of money and the guy just goes and takes the best UFA deal out there anyway. But I guess if you don't get the long term deal locked up by TDL day you just retain 50% and move on.
- JCSabs06

A la Taylor Hall and Buffalo. Except hopefully better.

All 3 of those players are worth more than that 50mill contract.

Especially Tage and Dahl
- DirtyDan

Dahlin is $12 million per year on the open market. Everyone in the league knows how good he is. He's a large Adam Fox with a mean streak. Fox already has a (deserved) Norris for a season not as good as Dahlin's current season.