But what about him having the worst analytics of any forward in the nhl the last 3 seasons?
- jimbro83

That's not true at all?

There's no such thing as "the worst analytics"

That's not true at all?

There's no such thing as "the worst analytics"
- BINGO!

the last 3 months on a nearly constant basis because TJ and Tom have been arguing about Kane for that long, Tom has posted Kane's 3 year cumulative analytics

they are absolutely horrific

yet....despite that, despite that "every team uses analytics" if Kane didn't have a NMC and was free to be traded to any team in the league, teams would be lining up for him

So this new pitch clock thing in MLB is getting rave reviews

When are we gonna know about Miller?

5 career playoff overtime winners for Patrick Kane in his career

FIVE

acting lile he's a terrible playoff player is one of funniest things Ive seen in awhile
- jimbro83

In the 20 playoff games he's played since he turned 27 years old he's scored 4 playoff goals and is a -4.

Again I'm not saying he's useless, just that you should not expect an elite player here.

So this new pitch clock thing in MLB is getting rave reviews
- Slimtj100

I stopped with baseball a long time ago. Sounds like I might check it out again.

That's not true at all?

There's no such thing as "the worst analytics"
- BINGO!

The analytics nerds are so hell bent in one thing that they lose focus of much more important things. It’s the Bible of hockey now, and it ruins normal hockey conversations

In the 20 playoff games he's played since he turned 27 years old he's scored 4 playoff goals and is a -4.

Again I'm not saying he's useless, just that you should not expect an elite player here.
- BINGO!

Can you leave us alone and get excited about Meier? Oh, wait.

I stopped with baseball a long time ago. Sounds like I might check it out again.
- JRR1285

Yea same, to the pleasure of our women I’m sure

the last 3 months on a nearly constant basis because TJ and Tom have been arguing about Kane for that long, Tom has posted Kane's 3 year cumulative analytics

they are absolutely horrific

yet....despite that, despite that "every team uses analytics" if Kane didn't have a NMC and was free to be traded to any team in the league, teams would be lining up for him
- jimbro83

They do use analytics. You're learning James.

Yea same, to the pleasure of our women I’m sure
- Slimtj100

My wife hates football the most followed by baseball. Hates the stoppages.

They do use analytics. You're learning James.
- tomburton99

That’s all you use tho nothing else in a million years would matter to you

Stay a nerdy robot Thom

In the 20 playoff games he's played since he turned 27 years old he's scored 4 playoff goals and is a -4.

Again I'm not saying he's useless, just that you should not expect an elite player here.
- BINGO!

That's your first mistake. Using stats and facts. Silly Goose.

That's your first mistake. Using stats and facts. Silly Goose.
- tomburton99

You’ve been using completely irrelevant stats nonstop in your anti-Kane arguments. His at least make sense.

If I’m making a point that Kane is one of most clutch playoff players of all time, countering that it’s been awhile since he did that is a fine thing to come back with.

In the 20 playoff games he's played since he turned 27 years old he's scored 4 playoff goals and is a -4.

Again I'm not saying he's useless, just that you should not expect an elite player here.
- BINGO!

Except that he juuuust might still be elite enough to make the difference and go on a heater... And that makes u a lil nervous.

No offense but he's kind of exactly the game breaking type that you guys need to get over the hump. You clearly have enough forecheck pressure types but can't turn that into goals when it matters. Exhibit A: almost all our recent games against the Canes and last year's playoffs.

Except that he juuuust might still be elite enough to make the difference and go on a heater... And that makes u a lil nervous.

No offense but he's kind of exactly the game breaking type that you guys need to get over the hump. You clearly have enough forecheck pressure types but can't turn that into goals when it matters. Exhibit A: almost all our recent games against the Canes and last year's playoffs.
- t-dawg

He’d be happy to get Patrick Kane just like he was happy to get Mark Recchi and Doug Weight in 2006.

You’ve been using completely irrelevant stats nonstop in your anti-Kane arguments. His at least make sense.

If I’m making a point that Kane is one of most clutch playoff players of all time, countering that it’s been awhile since he did that is a fine thing to come back with.
- jimbro83

The analytics tell a similar story. You're just arguing with everyone today. Why so glum, sugar plum?

The analytics tell a similar story. You're just arguing with everyone today. Why so glum, sugar plum?
- tomburton99

The last 3 seasons regular season analytics tell a similar story to not having playoff production in awhile?

You’ve been using completely irrelevant stats nonstop in your anti-Kane arguments. His at least make sense.

If I’m making a point that Kane is one of most clutch playoff players of all time, countering that it’s been awhile since he did that is a fine thing to come back with.
- jimbro83

Its like the Vesey argument all over again with the stats.

Granted, Kane defensively he really isnt good.

In the 20 playoff games he's played since he turned 27 years old he's scored 4 playoff goals and is a -4.

Again I'm not saying he's useless, just that you should not expect an elite player here.
- BINGO!

Ya but 8 years ago in 2015 he had 11 goals in 23 games and that’s what we should expect. Take ur rational statement somewhere else 👀

The analytics tell a similar story. You're just arguing with everyone today. Why so glum, sugar plum?
- tomburton99

He’s trying to convince you that there is more to a hockey game than analytics. What’s your formula for momentum in a hockey game? You know when a team kills off a 5 min major and subsequently scores a goal and the crowd is in a frenzy..why don’t you measure that Jerry Lewis

Its like the Vesey argument all over again with the stats.

Granted, Kane defensively he really isnt good.
- aecliptic

My biggest disappointments, heartache with this team since 2012 have been playoff overtime losses. We just haven’t had a hero when we needed one enough times.

I’m hoping Kane is gonna be that hero we’ve been longing for.

He’d be happy to get Patrick Kane just like he was happy to get Mark Recchi and Doug Weight in 2006.
- jimbro83

Maybe they'll get JVR to make the difference in squeaking by the first wild card team in game 7

Ya but 8 years ago in 2015 he had 11 goals in 23 games and that’s what we should expect. Take ur rational statement somewhere else 👀
- nyrangers9479

So you’d just prefer we go with Vesey at top line RW

Panarin and Kane in the postseason when playing together have a COMBINED 4 goals. We’ll be unstoppable come playoff time with numbers like that.