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fubtastik
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Main St Van, BC
Joined: 06.29.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
Does this player make the team better when he gets here? Sure does.

Does this player make the team better next season? Yes he does.

Win now.

- manvanfan


He’s injured right now so maybe they stick him on LTIR for team tank
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:33 PM ET
So we agree it's a net positive move that improves the team.
Noted.
That still doesn't mean they're trying to 'win now' with the trade.

- dbot

So explain to me how this makes the team worse? Or give the team more potential value in the future?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:33 PM ET
One season left before he's looking for a probable significant raise.
- boonerbuck


He can have that Myers money.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:34 PM ET
That’s not bad in the scheme of things.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Just doing the Bo tree.

Funny how fast fans criticize knowing full well young RHD are rare to get. Drafting them isn’t easy & risk comes with it let alone the years to develop.

What will Fabbro fetch or is the ask?
He’s been a big disappointment.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:34 PM ET
So just abandon the draft model winning teams use for depth, talent , and cap space out of fear?
This team is a mess and they are destroying the fanbase along with it.
Fans are now afraid of drafting, regardless of the GM of this team...

- carsonagenic

They still have a most likely top 7 overall pick. For now….
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
A team 6th from the bottom making win now moves still

Also with no cap space again next season to start with Something they talked about doing for a year now.

- manvanfan

Hardly a win now. You see our D? 😂
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
So explain to me how this makes the team worse? Or give the team more potential value in the future?
- manvanfan


Hronek > Juolevi.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:36 PM ET
What the actual (frank).. ugh, that's an annoying trade. Use the picks man!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 1 @ 5:36 PM ET
They still have a most likely top 7 overall pick. For now….
- LeftCoaster


(frank) the picks.
We're going all in now that we have Hronek.
Playoff's here we come!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:36 PM ET
David Pagnotta

@TheFourthPeriod
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7m
#Canucks GM Allvin: "We are excited to add a 25yr-old right-shot D who handles the puck well & possesses a strong 2-way game. He has steadily progressed throughout his time in DET to show he is a top pairing D. We are happy to continue to add younger pieces to build (our) core."

He doesn't play top pairing in Detroit. They paid the price for a top pair defender that is a 2nd pair defender
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:37 PM ET
Hronek > Juolevi.
- dbot

Quinn Hughes > Hronek +Juolevi

It doesn't change the price of the value the Canucks a team that is sitting 6th from the bottom just paid. Which was an overpayment at current status
fubtastik
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Main St Van, BC
Joined: 06.29.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:37 PM ET
What the actual (frank).. ugh, that's an annoying trade. Use the picks man!
- NewYorkNuck


Start dumping wingers for picks now. That at least would make this worth it
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:37 PM ET
This is not a win now move.
This is a safe bet on a player with some term for a lottery ticket.
It's consistent with their approach of late.

- dbot

Totally agree. The 1st/2nd is the price fans like or not. It’s only 1 move in the process to compete.

RHD was sad sack on all accounts.

Myers is a goner cannot wait.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:38 PM ET
David Pagnotta

@TheFourthPeriod
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29m
The Canucks have a lot of irons in the fire. Expecting more to come over (maybe today?) over the next 46 hours.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 5:38 PM ET
(frank) the picks.
We're going all in now that we have Hronek.
Playoff's here we come!

- dbot

If they draft Reinbacher and now have Hronek this improves, significantly, that backend.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:38 PM ET
Hronek could be the best of that list too.
- SMP8719

He already is til proven otherwise.
Isn’t it so ironic fans cry for RHD but complain when it happens.

#TheFickleIsAlive&Well
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
Canucks twitter is having a meltdown
- NorthNuck

Link pls lol
Lotto 6-40-9
Joined: 08.03.2020

Mar 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
Unless Van plan on recouping one of those picks going to Detroit in another trade, I really don't like this deal.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
We finally have our right side D man to play with Quinn. Like the player, hate the cost. Per Pagnotta Vancouver has several irons in the fire so lets hope we can move out some money and regain some picks.
- claygolf83


Not sure defensively he fits with QH... More likely second pair.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
Unless Van plan on recouping one of those picks going to Detroit in another trade, I really don't like this deal.
- Lotto 6-40-9

/Cam Robinson/
@Hockey_Robinson
·
40m
Here we go down the old "2 things can be true at the same time" road.

• Filip Hronek is a good player having a very good year. RHD cost a lot and VAN doesn't have any good ones.

• VAN moving high picks for a 25-year-old is.. confusing.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Mar 1 @ 5:39 PM ET
I want a rebuild, and we actually had an extra 1st rounder for the first time in a long time. As well as the potential to add more picks.
Except this team just couldn't handle having that kind of change in their pocket and went kid in a candy store instead.
I hope NYI doesn't give up their pick and it is top5 next year now...

- carsonagenic


Rebuild..? What gave you the idea they ever were doing that?

Though very surprised at the move. Not sure why Wings wanted it now and why Canucks couldn’t wait until draft. Player prices go down and pick prices go up then more so than TDL.

Anyway, Canucks finally get someone for QH. That 1st or 2nd were 5 years away from becoming that if ever.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:40 PM ET
One season left before he's looking for a probable significant raise.
- boonerbuck


Top minutes here he probably achieves that
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:40 PM ET
I don’t hate it at all, providing it’s the Islanders pick…LOL! A 25 year old right shot dman fits perfectly in a five year window for Pettersson, Hughes and the player they pick 1-6th overall.

I suspect there’s more coming though, trades…

- LeftCoaster

Us old guys gotta stick together lol
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Nobody is paying a top 10 pick for Chychrun if you hadn't noticed.
- manvanfan


Well we paid one for OEL lol so you never know
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
We finally have our right side D man to play with Quinn. Like the player, hate the cost. Per Pagnotta Vancouver has several irons in the fire so lets hope we can move out some money and regain some picks.
- claygolf83

Gotta believe this will happen. 👍
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