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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 6:10 PM ET
Wyatt Arndt

@TheStanchion
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25m
As Cody points out, the Canucks are a dog chasing its tail at this point. They keep spending draft capital and failing to make progress.

- manvanfan

Premature. Wait til next season & when all the dust settles. Lastly grouping in JB moves is pathetic
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
The BobFather is about the only hockey man I respect the others are far behind but do some good work at times.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
poop for an extra second we could have Chychrun lol
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 6:12 PM ET
Unless they are willing to completely rebuild through the draft, which was never going to be the case with Pettersson & Hughes on the roster, these types of moves are expected. They said they were going to do this type of move, and they have.
- LeftCoaster


Mixed messages actually. They said they were not going to trade away first round picks anymore but did just that.... for a 2nd pairing Dman at that.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Just doing the Bo tree.

Funny how fast fans criticize knowing full well young RHD are rare to get. Drafting them isn’t easy & risk comes with it let alone the years to develop.

What will Fabbro fetch or is the ask?
He’s been a big disappointment.

- Nighthawk



Yes there’s a 90% chance that second flops and becomes a bust especially with Vancouver’s scouting. I’d rather have a proven NHL D man that’ll be in his prime when the rest of this team is ready to compete 3-5 years down the road.
You’d have to be retarded to hope that you’re going to get a gem D-man that’s developed into top 4, with the 20th overall.

In fact I challenge any fan here to name a pick taken 20-32th overall by the Canucks that became a stud D man by time they were 23 in the last 20 years.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Trade alert! The #Sens have acquired defenceman Jakob Chychrun from @ArizonaCoyotes in exchange for a conditional first-round draft pick in ’23, a conditional second-round selection in ’24 (previously acquired from @Capitals) and a second-round pick in ’26. 1/2

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
Chychrun for a 1st & 2-2nds

Yotes caved on the ask but he’s never stayed healthy either.

Lots for a LHD but a good move for the Sens.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 1 @ 6:14 PM ET
The BobFather is about the only hockey man I respect the others are far behind but do some good work at times.
- Nighthawk

Jeff Paterson


#Canucks get their coveted RHD in Hronek. But at quite a price. 25-year-old with 39 points in 60 games

Hronek has logged 21:32 a game for Wings this season. Averages 1:37/game on PK which is a massive need for #Canucks. But that was fourth on Wings defence so not a top pair PK guy in Detroit. Had PP2 role on Wings, too, with 16 PP points
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 1 @ 6:14 PM ET
Mixed messages actually. They said they were not going to trade away first round picks anymore but did just that.... for a 2nd pairing Dman at that.
- boonerbuck

A Boeser and Miller deal could recoup all that. Maybe. lol

Garland-Myers for?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
The highest potential value in the Horvat deal was the unprotected NYI pick in 24'. Vancouver has now wasted that
- manvanfan

Well we did get out of paying Bo 8X8.5 lol
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Yes there’s a 90% chance that second flops and becomes a bust especially with Vancouver’s scouting. I’d rather have a proven NHL D man that’ll be in his prime when the rest of this team is ready to compete 3-5 years down the road.
You’d have to be retarded to hope that you’re going to get a gem D-man that’s developed into top 4, with the 20th overall.

In fact I challenge any fan here to name a pick taken 20-32th overall by the Canucks that became a stud D man by time they were 23 in the last 20 years.

- I-own_da-Northwest


Ohlund was 13th and developed into that stud D
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
Yes there’s a 90% chance that second flops and becomes a bust especially with Vancouver’s scouting. I’d rather have a proven NHL D man that’ll be in his prime when the rest of this team is ready to compete 3-5 years down the road.
You’d have to be retarded to hope that you’re going to get a gem D-man that’s developed into top 4, with the 20th overall.

In fact I challenge any fan here to name a pick taken 20-32th overall by the Canucks that became a stud D man by time they were 23 in the last 20 years.

- I-own_da-Northwest


Edler....... arguably a top 2 Dman in prime. I am on the same page as you though... Hronek will almost for sure be better then any pic we make in the 20+ range... 14th or 15th though there could be arguments made.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
Hronek 18th TOI for RHD
Myers is 32nd
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
Wyatt Arndt

@TheStanchion
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25m
As Cody points out, the Canucks are a dog chasing its tail at this point. They keep spending draft capital and failing to make progress.

- manvanfan


#shortcuts
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Edler....... arguably a top 2 Dman in prime. I am on the same page as you though... Hronek will almost for sure be better then any pic we make in the 20+ range... 14th or 15th though there could be arguments made.
- SMP8719

Hronek is a great add and we need the Right hand shot desperately. But still, alot to give up. Have to think that Allvin will try to recoup this picks back with a few more deals.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Ohlund was 13th and developed into that stud D
- DariusKnight

That was 29 years ago he was drafted, friend… and higher than 20th-32nd.
claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Mar 1 @ 6:19 PM ET
Now that Chychrun is gone, perhaps Pittsburgh turns their attention back to Miller or Boeser since they lost out on their D man.

I have to think we will see some additional moves in the next 2 days
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 1 @ 6:19 PM ET
#shortcuts
- boonerbuck


Exactly, what was the point of getting a 1st round pick, just to trade it away? If they manage to get more 1sts and 2nds then ok, maybe this deal isn't so bad
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 1 @ 6:20 PM ET
Our break out just got much better. Myers & his pathetic break outs just got better with his less TOI.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:21 PM ET
Edler....... arguably a top 2 Dman in prime. I am on the same page as you though... Hronek will almost for sure be better then any pic we make in the 20+ range... 14th or 15th though there could be arguments made.
- SMP8719



Yes, I’m just not high on any of the D available this year. To me it’s high-Risk and Joulevi has me shying away from that. I think any of the D that I’ve seen ranked in the first round are just best of a bad situation. I might risk a 2nd, but definitely not a first rd with them. Nobody remembers when your 2nd rd’r isn’t successful…
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:22 PM ET
Jeff Paterson


#Canucks get their coveted RHD in Hronek. But at quite a price. 25-year-old with 39 points in 60 games

Hronek has logged 21:32 a game for Wings this season. Averages 1:37/game on PK which is a massive need for #Canucks. But that was fourth on Wings defence so not a top pair PK guy in Detroit. Had PP2 role on Wings, too, with 16 PP points

- manvanfan

Perhaps they’re planning on some of their good young defencemen they’ve drafted making the roster next year. There’s three or four good young players ready to step in. That’s what good drafting does for you.

Funny, Yzerman wasn’t afraid to rebuild through the draft even though they had a young’ish Dylan Larkin on the roster. Different mindset. Now the Wings have a better team, a better prospect pool and a brighter immediate future IMO.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
Exactly, what was the point of getting a 1st round pick, just to trade it away? If they manage to get more 1sts and 2nds then ok, maybe this deal isn't so bad
- DariusKnight



I feel that at least one, but probably 2 of Boeser/Garland/Miller won’t be with us for saturdays game. I hope we get a 2nd and 1st but would take 2-2nds if need be.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
poop for an extra second we could have Chychrun lol
- SMP8719

Ugh. That hurts, I thought they’d settle waaaay higher than that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
A Boeser and Miller deal could recoup all that. Maybe. lol

Garland-Myers for?

- LordHumungous


They are not trading Miller. They invested in him to win now and won't be leaving a massive hole down the middle... and the moves they are making continue to follow that direction. I'm sure they listened to some calls but teams are probably looking for Van to accommodate a dump deal seeing their unintentional tank is screaming not ready to compete.

Boeser isnt going to bring in anything substantial. Probably lose another pick in any move involving him actually.

This 2nd round in the draft has lots of potential for Dmen. Going into the draft once again without a 2nd.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 1 @ 6:25 PM ET
Now that Chychrun is gone, perhaps Pittsburgh turns their attention back to Miller or Boeser since they lost out on their D man.

I have to think we will see some additional moves in the next 2 days

- claygolf83

Hopefully.
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