Big goalies with hip surgeries at such a young age is never a good thing
- Stripes77

Ullmark did the same thing.

No, no I'm looking for someone who is playing for Boston. Someone whom Kevyn Adams failed to properly evaluate and properly pay. The position remains a blackhole on the team with no prospects of that changing until 3 seasons from now. That's as bad a job as anyone could possibly do on the single most important position in the sport.

Top 5 GM
- lacaprup

This is such a brain dead conversation.

Me - guys sign with winning teams all the time. Who wouldnt leave last place buffalo for the bruins. Especially for matching money.

You- KA didnt give him enough $ or force him to sign.

You be you.

Ah Carter hutton > Anderson

Good post.

And ullmark is completely KA'S fault.
Should have held a gun to his head to play in buffalo over boston.

Really good post actually
- Boss34

No, not all his fault. But should have tried a bit harder than signing him to 1 year deal walking him into FA.

Big goalies with hip surgeries at such a young age is never a good thing
- Stripes77

Didn't Ullmark have the same?

Didn't Ullmark have the same?
- QuinnFan

Yes he did

Ah Carter hutton > Anderson

Good post.

And ullmark is completely KA'S fault.
Should have held a gun to his head to play in buffalo over boston.

Really good post actually
- Boss34

First part is right, Hutton stunk. But apparently Ullmark wanted to sign here, it does seem like KA whiffed there.

No, not all his fault. But should have tried a bit harder than signing him to 1 year deal walking him into FA.
- Buff36

That's a good point.

Probably wanted to see if ullmark could stay healthy.
Probably wanted to evaluate ullmarks vibe level 1st hand.

Didnt ullmark kind of suck? And get hurt a lot?
I was ok with letting him go.

Easy to look back now as a revolutionist?

Ullmark did the same thing.
- Wetbandit1

So…

if UPL = Ullmark
Then
Year 9 is when we will see the starting caliber goalie.

No, not all his fault. But should have tried a bit harder than signing him to 1 year deal walking him into FA.
- Buff36

Guess Ullmark had a gun to his head, since that's the analogy we're using.

This is such a brain dead conversation.

Me - guys sign with winning teams all the time. Who wouldnt leave last place buffalo for the bruins. Especially for matching money.

You- KA didnt give him enough $ or force him to sign.

You be you.
- Boss34

Imagine, you might have to overpay in Buffalo. The "plan" won out and we didn't "overpay." Turns out the overpayment was actually the best value contract in the NHL.

Turns out our GM can't evalute the goaltender position.

He has since traded for Levi and drafted Topi. Great. I am happy in 3 years I won't have to see me team sunk by bottom 10 goaltending every year.

Meanwhile, last year submarined by goalies before it could ever start. And this year no improvement. In fact, an arrogant stance that Eric Comrie was a researched and planned move. Couldn't have gone worse.

But we have a plan.

It is as yet undisclosed when playoffs are a part of the plan.

Yes he did
- Stripes77

So it depends to some extent. I wonder if there's just large variance in rehabilitation post op with that one.

First part is right, Hutton stunk. But apparently Ullmark wanted to sign here, it does seem like KA whiffed there.
- QuinnFan

I'm not sure if he really choose buffalo over boston?

Maybe?

Wasnt ullmark kind of young, inconsistent and oft injured?

Didnt seem like a complete slam dunk?

I could be wrong? Most likely... 🤔

That's a good point.

Probably wanted to see if ullmark could stay healthy.
Probably wanted to evaluate ullmarks vibe level 1st hand.

Didnt ullmark kind of suck? And get hurt a lot?
I was ok with letting him go.

Easy to look back now as a revolutionist?
- Boss34

Very True

Imagine, you might have to overpay in Buffalo. The "plan" won out and we didn't "overpay." Turns out the overpayment was actually the best value contract in the NHL.

Turns out our GM can't evalute the goaltender position.

He has since traded for Levi and drafted Topi. Great. I am happy in 3 years I won't have to see me team sunk by bottom 10 goaltending every year.

Meanwhile, last year submarined by goalies before it could ever start. And this year no improvement. In fact, an arrogant stance that Eric Comrie was a researched and planned move. Couldn't have gone worse.

But we have a plan.

It is as yet undisclosed when playoffs are a part of the plan.
- lacaprup

Come on paul, you're such a huge fan. And I agree with 80% of your posts.

You know we were a budget team.

You want a budget team to overpay for a guy at the beginning of a rebuild?

Someone that wasn't proven or healthy ?

I'm gonna take a break, let all you guys enjoy the afternoon. 😉

Guess Ullmark had a gun to his head, since that's the analogy we're using.
- Lunaion

My analogy is he came into a Sh!t show and took care of Contracts because there was so much going on with Firing people that some things were kicked down the road, and he kinda got Stanked.

I'm not sure if he really choose buffalo over boston?

Maybe?

Wasnt ullmark kind of young, inconsistent and oft injured?

Didnt seem like a complete slam dunk?

I could be wrong? Most likely... 🤔
- Boss34

From what I understand we just didn't want to invest long term because of that, yeah. Adams wanted probably another 1-2yr deal and Ullmark had Boston offering 4 or 5 I forget what he got. You're not wrong that it wasn't a slam dunk at the time, this is all hindsight.

Bum36's source has been compromised!

My analogy is he came into a Sh!t show and took care of Contracts because there was so much going on with Firing people that some things were kicked down the road, and he kinda got Stanked.
- Buff36

He was overwhelmed and in over his head that first summer, no question there.

He inherited a team just under fake .500 with a lot of talent. The success of many of these guys after leaving Buffalo shows it.

From what I understand we just didn't want to invest long term because of that, yeah. Adams wanted probably another 1-2yr deal and Ullmark had Boston offering 4 or 5 I forget what he got. You're not wrong that it wasn't a slam dunk at the time, this is all hindsight.
- QuinnFan

It's not even about this year, it's the 2 1yr contracts they dragged him through with Arbitration. If they showed some faith maybe he signs a 2 or 3yr deal back then at a cheaper Avv

It's not even about this year, it's the 2 1yr contracts they dragged him through with Arbitration. If they showed some faith maybe he signs a 2 or 3yr deal back then at a cheaper Avv
- Buff36

If they offered reasonable starter $, I'd say 4-5 years @ 4m was easy to agree to.

Bum36's source has been compromised!



- Hatboro_Swords

Yes because I like to read and listen to different sports shows. Glad TM let you out of the Closet to post this. Hurry keep posting stuff, sure you don't have much time left.

If they offered reasonable starter $, I'd say 4-5 years @ 4m was easy to agree to.
- Lunaion

Maybe, would have had a much better shot than what they did.

Yes because I like to read and listen to different sports shows. Glad TM let you out of the Closet to post this. Hurry keep posting stuff, sure you don't have much time left.
- Buff36

some of us do have to work for a living

some of us do have to work for a living
- Hatboro_Swords

Yes, most do. Unless they are Retired.

It's not even about this year, it's the 2 1yr contracts they dragged him through with Arbitration. If they showed some faith maybe he signs a 2 or 3yr deal back then at a cheaper Avv
- Buff36

Agreed, they marched him to UFA status and the driver's seat.