It should.

It LOOKS to me on the outside looking in that Fletcher has too much of an old school mentality. Older GMs sit on their guys for far too long and try to hold out until the last minute to somehow increase price. Newer GMs are seeing you strike while the iron is hot.

Dubas, Davidson, Poile, Washington's guy all recognize this.

Washington and Nashville both recognized it was time to cut bait and re-tool instead of pushing for a potential 1st round exit. They entered into the sellers market and have made decent moves. Philly had less sellers 2 - 4 weeks ago. They should have shipped JVR out when he had like 10 points in 11 games off injury. Moved him out.
- Aaron_85

2-4 weeks ago Fletcher was still hoping the Flyers would go on a run and remain in contention for a playoff spot, at least publicly. You don't make the moves he did last offseason if you are rebuilding. I still can't believe he popped out of hiding after letting Torts be the public face of the franchise and even then he let Torts break all the bad news. Although he did mention that the Flyers are "tougher to play against". I wonder if he believes it?

This will probably be a very disappointing trade deadline during a very disappointing season for the Flyers.

Thinking about this more, does it really matter if the Flyers trade JVR, Brown and Braun at this deadline? Its not like the Flyers are really going to get much back in return and at the end of the year all 3 players are gone and the Flyers get about $9M in cap space. The player the Flyers need to move this deadline is Hayes if the market is truly heating up for him as it has been reported. That can be a big win for the Flyers to get out from under his contract for the next 3 years and should open up about another $4M in cap space. That $13M in cap space overall, which is not bad. Bellows will also be off the books which is another $1.2M, so when you think about it the Flyers would be accumulating cap space even with Ellis on LTIR. And like I posted earlier, Fletcher does not need to spend 1 dime in FA this off-season because he has young players that can come in and take these roster spots. It will be another season of evaluation but a step in the right direction given the cap space situation and the Flyers will have another top 10 pick to add to their system.
- jd250

Have you read anywhere that Dreger, LeBrun or Friedman have said that the Hayes market is heating up?
If Hayes is traded, the actual trade and the return will determine what kind of win it will be for the Flyers. Giving him away basically and retaining salary or taking a contract back will not be a huge win.

Lots of trades with imagination going on in the NHL these days. Now makes me realize why the Flyers suck so much. Their last 3 GM's don't have the ability to think outside the box and make this kind of thing happen. Homer was stumped once the Cap came into being, and Hextall and Chuckles have ZERO ability to think outside the box. This is why the Flyers are in purgatory. Eh what? FIRE CHUCK!! Oh, and I hope the Penwhines fire Hextall too! Thanks!

Just logging in to find out that the Flyers have done absolutely nothing while the rest of the league has been busy. The longer this goes, the lower the price the Flyers will get for their trades. CF needs to go.

2-4 weeks ago Fletcher was still hoping the Flyers would go on a run and remain in contention for a playoff spot, at least publicly. You don't make the moves he did last offseason if you are rebuilding. I still can't believe he popped out of hiding after letting Torts be the public face of the franchise and even then he let Torts break all the bad news. Although he did mention that the Flyers are "tougher to play against". I wonder if he believes it?

This will probably be a very disappointing trade deadline during a very disappointing season for the Flyers.
- Flyers_01

If you thought this year was a disappointment….now you get to look forward to more of the same next year. It just looks like Fletch is over matched. Other teams have acquired 1rst rounders from this year, a bunch have moved. Yet the INCOMPETENT idiot this team has in charge continue to watch from the sidelines. Now he’s buying himself another few years of this crap by nibbling away it? What a complete joke. I thought he was brought into this organization to get the Flyers to the next level? When’s that plan start ? What’s an agressive retool? Is that when Coots and Atkinson come back? Did those two morph into McDavid and Draisaitl during the year off? For Coots it’s going to be almost two years off? Great plan.

Lots of trades with imagination going on in the NHL these days. Now makes me realize why the Flyers suck so much. Their last 3 GM's don't have the ability to think outside the box and make this kind of thing happen. Homer was stumped once the Cap came into being, and Hextall and Chuckles have ZERO ability to think outside the box. This is why the Flyers are in purgatory. Eh what? FIRE CHUCK!! Oh, and I hope the Penwhines fire Hextall too! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

I don’t think Hexy did a great job here like some….but he’s still a Flyer legend to me and even though it’s the Pens he’s in charge of I do hope he doesn’t get axed this year. I’m on board with Fletch being gone yesterday….gotta love the softball media asking those tough questions yesterday. How about the easiest? When did your plan change? Why are you signing guys to long term high priced deals when you time horizon for winning is now in the distant future? Are an injured Coots and an over the hill breaking down Atkinson the reason this team isn’t a contender?

Just logging in to find out that the Flyers have done absolutely nothing while the rest of the league has been busy. The longer this goes, the lower the price the Flyers will get for their trades. CF needs to go.
- Letterkenney

Get ready for the 330 presser on Friday when we hear the line ”it’s much easier to make deals in the summer”. ‘Nothing materialized, that made sense”. ‘We have to continue to nibble away at it”. Oh and we’ve extended JVR for 3 more year, because we believe in this group.

Lots of trades with imagination going on in the NHL these days. Now makes me realize why the Flyers suck so much. Their last 3 GM's don't have the ability to think outside the box and make this kind of thing happen. Homer was stumped once the Cap came into being, and Hextall and Chuckles have ZERO ability to think outside the box. This is why the Flyers are in purgatory. Eh what? FIRE CHUCK!! Oh, and I hope the Penwhines fire Hextall too! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Yeah it feels that way. Some GMs are more ballsy then others. I think these GMs being honest with themselves in Washington and Nashville. It has made for an interesting deadline week.

Even cbj and the kings are making late night deals.

I don’t think Hexy did a great job here like some….but he’s still a Flyer legend to me and even though it’s the Pens he’s in charge of I do hope he doesn’t get axed this year. I’m on board with Fletch being gone yesterday….gotta love the softball media asking those tough questions yesterday. How about the easiest? When did your plan change? Why are you signing guys to long term high priced deals when you time horizon for winning is now in the distant future? Are an injured Coots and an over the hill breaking down Atkinson the reason this team isn’t a contender?
- landros 2

I refuse to watch any of Chuckles' pressers. It just angers me and I don't need it. He is a total buffoon.

I understand about Hextall. He provided me with one of my all time favorite moments as a Flyers fan. We were lucky enough to be at game 6 of the Finals in 1987 and he just refused to allow the Oilers to score the tying goal and he won the MVP in that series despite losing (Gretzky said it was the best goaltending performance that he'd ever seen). However, I don't like him as a GM. I don't think he did a good job here and he's doing the exact same thing with the Pens. He signed his aging star players which is the easy part. He should be all in to try and get them another Cup before the window closes and yet he sits idle. It's actually comical cause as a hockey player he was balls to the wall, but as a GM he is afraid of his own shadow.

2-4 weeks ago Fletcher was still hoping the Flyers would go on a run and remain in contention for a playoff spot, at least publicly. You don't make the moves he did last offseason if you are rebuilding. I still can't believe he popped out of hiding after letting Torts be the public face of the franchise and even then he let Torts break all the bad news. Although he did mention that the Flyers are "tougher to play against". I wonder if he believes it?

This will probably be a very disappointing trade deadline during a very disappointing season for the Flyers.
- Flyers_01

These other teams had a better roster than Philly and were closer to the playoffs. Chuck Fletcher just isn't being honest with himself this season.

I agree on his mindset in the off season and again in the beginning of the season. But time to change course. If youre in it to win then why aren't you a buyer at the deadline? I think CF upto this point has misplayed the deadline. However he has 3 days left to change that.

Get ready for the 330 presser on Friday when we hear the line ”it’s much easier to make deals in the summer”. ‘Nothing materialized, that made sense”. ‘We have to continue to nibble away at it”. Oh and we’ve extended JVR for 3 more year, because we believe in this group.
- landros 2

correct but he will announce they can trade JVR's rights closer to FA, so the team can sign him to an 8 year max term deal.

I refuse to watch any of Chuckles' pressers. It just angers me and I don't need it. He is a total buffoon.

I understand about Hextall. He provided me with one of my all time favorite moments as a Flyers fan. We were lucky enough to be at game 6 of the Finals in 1987 and he just refused to allow the Oilers to score the tying goal and he won the MVP in that series despite losing (Gretzky said it was the best goaltending performance that he'd ever seen). However, I don't like him as a GM. I don't think he did a good job here and he's doing the exact same thing with the Pens. He signed his aging star players which is the easy part. He should be all in to try and get them another Cup before the window closes and yet he sits idle. It's actually comical cause as a hockey player he was balls to the wall, but as a GM he is afraid of his own shadow.
- Phillywhiteout

hope he adds 2 vets on long term deals for the pens, sells their 1st next 2 seasons.

correct but he will announce they can trade JVR's rights closer to FA, so the team can sign him to an 8 year max term deal.
- wcorvette

Chuckles will also probably throw in a couple of second rounders in 2027 and 2028.

Just logging in to find out that the Flyers have done absolutely nothing while the rest of the league has been busy. The longer this goes, the lower the price the Flyers will get for their trades. CF needs to go.
- Letterkenney

The trade deadline was never going to be a big event for the Flyers. Still a couple of days though.

These other teams had a better roster than Philly and were closer to the playoffs. Chuck Fletcher just isn't being honest with himself this season.

I agree on his mindset in the off season and again in the beginning of the season. But time to change course. If youre in it to win then why aren't you a buyer at the deadline? I think CF upto this point has misplayed the deadline. However he has 3 days left to change that.
- Aaron_85

Listen, I can't stand Fletcher and I think he is a complete incompetent buffoon. That being said, how has he misplayed the deadline? He has basically one trade chip and that player is way down the list of available players.

Have you read anywhere that Dreger, LeBrun or Friedman have said that the Hayes market is heating up?
If Hayes is traded, the actual trade and the return will determine what kind of win it will be for the Flyers. Giving him away basically and retaining salary or taking a contract back will not be a huge win.
- MJL

I agree. I don't believe the Flyers should just give away Hayes and I do not believe Fletcher will, especially if the Flyers cover a good chunk of salary. I would not trade Hayes unless I got a multiple picks, including a higher pick, or an NHL ready prospect like what the Flyers got for Giroux. The fact that Hayes is not a rental but provides cost certainty over the next 3 seasons is a plus and thus he should bring in a decent return, again if the Flyers are covering salary.

Think some more - JVR and Braun are UFAs. If you don't trade them now as Willy Wonka said "You get nothing!". Of course as Fletcher has done in the past - there are fewer chairs left and the music is going to stop. Meaning most teams interested have already given up their 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd picks already. But if CF keeps waiting long enough he could to get a 4th or 5th in 2026.
- RustyPipes

My point is these players are off the books at the end of the year, and if moved at the deadline they will not bring much in return. I would be shocked at this point if Fletcher can get even a 3rd round pick this year for JVR. Look at his numbers and impact to the team over the past few seasons, he is just not that good. Braun and Brown might get you a 5th or 6th round pick, but honestly who cares! The real meat will come from trading players like Hayes and DeAngelo. Of all the moves that have been made so far, Colorado and Calgary have been very quiet.

Looking back Fletcher had tradeable assets at the deadline and decided an extension each time- Laughton, Risto, and Sanheim. Over 14 million commited to the cap to a nucleus which will end up in the top 7 again. Scott is truly clurless to let Fletcher stay employed.

Listen, I can't stand Fletcher and I think he is a complete incompetent buffoon. That being said, how has he misplayed the deadline? He has basically one trade chip and that player is way down the list of available players.
- MJL

He hasn't even traded anyone! He has 3 days and his dance partners are leaving the floor with other partners. He should have sold already instead of waiting until the very last minute trying to drive prices up.

If you thought this year was a disappointment….now you get to look forward to more of the same next year. It just looks like Fletch is over matched. Other teams have acquired 1rst rounders from this year, a bunch have moved. Yet the INCOMPETENT idiot this team has in charge continue to watch from the sidelines. Now he’s buying himself another few years of this crap by nibbling away it? What a complete joke. I thought he was brought into this organization to get the Flyers to the next level? When’s that plan start ? What’s an agressive retool? Is that when Coots and Atkinson come back? Did those two morph into McDavid and Draisaitl during the year off? For Coots it’s going to be almost two years off? Great plan.
- landros 2

Maybe he’s actually smart in reality but he projects buffoonery as a GM. He projects stupidity and cluelessness. He doesn’t even appear to be on the same page as his own head coach. He certainly has no sense of what the fans feel; either that or he just doesn’t care what the fans think.

Looking back Fletcher had tradeable assets at the deadline and decided an extension each time- Laughton, Risto, and Sanheim. Over 14 million commited to the cap to a nucleus which will end up in the top 7 again. Scott is truly clurless to let Fletcher stay employed.
- Trox88

Risto and Sanheim are the most egregious! I like Laughton and am happy he is still here.

My point is these players are off the books at the end of the year, and if moved at the deadline they will not bring much in return. I would be shocked at this point if Fletcher can get even a 3rd round pick this year for JVR. Look at his numbers and impact to the team over the past few seasons, he is just not that good. Braun and Brown might get you a 5th or 6th round pick, but honestly who cares! The real meat will come from trading players like Hayes and DeAngelo. Of all the moves that have been made so far, Colorado and Calgary have been very quiet.
- jd250

I would not be surprised if Colorado doesn't really make any moves. Coming off a cup, some injuries this season, I can see them just wanting to go ahead with their same group or making minor adjustments.

Calgary I think sort of needs to but as guys on the radio said, Treliving did a good job in the off season to keep his team competitive when it could have been much worse. Players have let him down.

I agree. I don't believe the Flyers should just give away Hayes and I do not believe Fletcher will, especially if the Flyers cover a good chunk of salary. I would not trade Hayes unless I got a multiple picks, including a higher pick, or an NHL ready prospect like what the Flyers got for Giroux. The fact that Hayes is not a rental but provides cost certainty over the next 3 seasons is a plus and thus he should bring in a decent return, again if the Flyers are covering salary.
- jd250

Prepare to be disappointed.

He hasn't even traded anyone! He has 3 days and his dance partners are leaving the floor with other partners. He should have sold already instead of waiting until the very last minute trying to drive prices up.
- Aaron_85

He doesn't have anyone to trade. With one exception, JVR and he is not a top trade chip. He's not waiting, he's not getting any offers willing to take to this point.

He hasn't even traded anyone! He has 3 days and his dance partners are leaving the floor with other partners. He should have sold already instead of waiting until the very last minute trying to drive prices up.
- Aaron_85

I agree. There clearly was a market for JVR. That market has dwindled significantly. I think Braun and JVR get moved still. Flyers maybe get a 4th and 6th. Not great.