Why would we ever pair JVr with a good prospect to get a second round pick?
- ClaudeFather

I wouldn't ... but you know Chuck might ..

Who are you interested in?
- SuperSchennBros

One of Benson, Moore, Smith, Michkov or Yager would be nice. Dark horse would be Jayden Perron.

Benson strikes me as a bit like a Brayden Point on draft day. Extremely aware and gifted all-around offensive threat, but is small and needs to work on his skating.

Smith and Moore are really crafty and deceptive playmakers. Both are 'new NHL' kind of players -- smaller, deceptive and quick. Moore's a terrific skater.

Michkov is Michkov. Tools are awesome, but some questions about his awareness (tunnel vision attacker) and he's Russian and under contract, so maybe he drops a bit (or a lot).

And Yager is legit one of the best pure offensive threats in the draft. Really high end shooting ability.

Perron is a supremely confident and shifty puck carrier who has strong ice awareness. Seems like he could be a bit of a riser on draft day.

Saying this for a while now, Sanheim or Provy should have been moved last year. Talked to Danny a bit back, I think folks have a misguided view on him. He wasn’t happy about the season at all and didn’t sugarcoat anything. And this is when they were doing ok for what they were
- ClaudeFather

Briere was fully behind the Torts hire and the giving of a 4 year deal to Nic D, he can piss off too. Of course he’s not happy with season, but that doesn’t mean he’s the guy to fix it.

The Flyers need to go outside the organization and find someone who understands how to build a winning NHL team in 2023. However, if the hiring group consists of Dave Scott and some combo of Clarke, Holmgren, Lombardi and Barber, well good luck with that.

I do wonder if Tort’s comments yesterday were some what directed at Fletcher…basically said we aren’t good enough and we aren’t making the Playoffs. A little more Pressure on the GM to actually do his job this week…unless it’s still to hard.

Briere was fully behind the Torts hire and the giving of a 4 year deal to Nic D, he can piss off too. Of course he’s not happy with season, but that doesn’t mean he’s the guy to fix it.

The Flyers need to go outside the organization and find someone who understands how to build a winning NHL team in 2023. However, if the hiring group consists of Dave Scott and some combo of Clarke, Holmgren, Lombardi and Barber, well good luck with that.
- BiggE

It would be nice to see them go outside the organization but who’s there to make that call? As you point out.

Briere was fully behind the Torts hire and the giving of a 4 year deal to Nic D, he can piss off too. Of course he’s not happy with season, but that doesn’t mean he’s the guy to fix it.

The Flyers need to go outside the organization and find someone who understands how to build a winning NHL team in 2023. However, if the hiring group consists of Dave Scott and some combo of Clarke, Holmgren, Lombardi and Barber, well good luck with that.
- BiggE

I don’t disagree that it would be best to go outside of their bubble. But I just don’t think Danny is Fletcher. We shall see

This organization is an utter disgrace! I also hate the way that they are so secretive about injuries. I'm sick of this cloak and dagger crap! At a time of the year when we should be really getting excited about the hockey team we are left with nothing! And then apparently Torts doubles down yesterday and tells the fanbase that they are going to suck again NEXT YEAR! WTF!! Did I mention that this organization is a total disgrace? The only thing I have left to root for this season is for the Penwhines to miss the playoffs and Hexy getting his ass canned!! Thanks for nuttin!

Can we trade Chuck for future considerations?
- bird_dog_pa

I'll take Fletcher. With my bad hip, I could use a gardener. I have a bucket of pucks in my basement that my kids used to use when they were young. You can have the pucks back in exchange.

Deal?

I don’t disagree that it would be best to go outside of their bubble. But I just don’t think Danny is Fletcher. We shall see
- ClaudeFather

Why is if that the GM on the way out always gets to hand pick their own successor around here? Clarke -> Homer, Homer -> Hexy, Fletch -> Briere. Like handing the baton of incompetence off to each other.

What exactly is that guy's worth? 2 paper clips and rubber band.
- Pelle31Forever

That’s stretching it…



I’ll show myself out.

This organization is an utter disgrace! I also hate the way that they are so secretive about injuries. I'm sick of this cloak and dagger crap! At a time of the year when we should be really getting excited about the hockey team we are left with nothing! And then apparently Torts doubles down yesterday and tells the fanbase that they are going to suck again NEXT YEAR! WTF!! Did I mention that this organization is a total disgrace? The only thing I have left to root for this season is for the Penwhines to miss the playoffs and Hexy getting his ass canned!! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

I think the whole cloak and dagger approach to injuries comes from legal…when have they been right? I mean we are paying 6 mil a year to a d man with a groin pull, who’s been out for coming up to two years. I’m sure the marketing and season ticket sales department were thrilled with Torts not only canning this year but suggesting next years not looking good either.

I don’t disagree that it would be best to go outside of their bubble. But I just don’t think Danny is Fletcher. We shall see
- ClaudeFather

Danny is currently too close to ground zero to remain standing.

Why is if that the GM on the way out always gets to hand pick their own successor around here? Clarke -> Homer, Homer -> Hexy, Fletch -> Briere. Like handing the baton of incompetence off to each other.
- Tomahawk

Other than Hextall, none of them were fired, they were promoted. In Fletchers case he was promoted while GM so there's really nowhere for him to go if he decides not to be GM anymore. He has several titles right now so if he ends up giving up one to appease the masses it won't affect him or his power within the org in the slightest.

Why is if that the GM on the way out always gets to hand pick their own successor around here? Clarke -> Homer, Homer -> Hexy, Fletch -> Briere. Like handing the baton of incompetence off to each other.
- Tomahawk

The wheels on the bus go round and round...........

When you have a failed organization, failing up becomes the norm. The worse you are, the more likely you are to be promoted. The Flyers operate like government operates.

Why is if that the GM on the way out always gets to hand pick their own successor around here? Clarke -> Homer, Homer -> Hexy, Fletch -> Briere. Like handing the baton of incompetence off to each other.
- Tomahawk

But the reality is that Fletcher is still here. Is it just until after the deadline? What if Torts makes the personnel decisions and someone else handles the “cap stuff?” What if Torts is our very own Barry Trotz

Other than Hextall, none of them were fired, they were promoted. In Fletchers case he was promoted while GM so there's really nowhere for him to go if he decides not to be GM anymore. He has several titles right now so if he ends up giving up one to appease the masses it won't affect him or his power within the org in the slightest.
- Flyers_01

While I always thought Ed Snider was a very good owner for most of his tenure as owner I think that is one big blunder on his ownership. Homer should have been fired!! I think that is what started this ball rolling of guys getting promoted instead of fired. It's a disgrace to promote a guy that wasn't doing the job that he was hired to do (be GM). In my humble opinion that started the ball rolling to this team being in the crapper. Homer, Hexy and Fletcher. Tanks for nuttin!!

The wheels on the bus go round and round...........

When you have a failed organization, failing up becomes the norm. The worse you are, the more likely you are to be promoted. The Flyers operate like government operates.

- Letterkenney

👍👍👍👍

Clearly the problem with the Flyers was Claude Giroux all along. Everything's been awesome since he was removed from the team.

https://www.inquirer.com/...yk-deangelo-20230227.html

“I wonder about Tony DeAngelo, too,” Friedman said. “The tough thing about DeAngelo is it’s not working this year, but they gave up a lot to get him. I think they’ve had interest on DeAngelo; one of the teams I’ve wondered about is Carolina possibly reacquiring him.”

Trading DeAngelo just 60 or so games in, after the team was willing to overlook his off-ice baggage, trade three picks, and commit $10 million to the defenseman, would certainly be an admission of guilt by the organization. That said, DeAngelo has been a liability defensively as expected and Tortorella has said as much. While the deal was a mistake in the first place, admitting wrongdoing and recouping some picks would be a positive step.

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I can't imagine Carolina is willing to trade for him back unless the Flyers retain 50% of his salary and are only asking for a 7th but we shall see. The TDA trade was a slow motion car wreck that anyone could see from the beginning from a GM who was still pushing the reload narrative. The other part of this would be Fletcher admitting guilt ... on anything.

The way things are going it's looking like Tortorella will handle all the announcements for the rest of the year. Fletch is hiding up in the C suite.
- Flyers_01

Why would Carolina want him back? The know what he is and they have an upgrade in Burns

Clearly the problem with the Flyers was Claude Giroux all along. Everything's been awesome since he was removed from the team.
- Feanor

Top 100 scorer in the history of the league. Little did we know he needed to have GM skills as well.

Thanks Bill , so in other words the flyers suck and will suck for along time. Awesome

What if Torts is our very own Barry Trotz
- Sinisalo4vr

Gross

For those who thought Tortorella was going to be the difference, this is why he is not. Grinding harder just does not work in the long term. Simplifying the defence makes it easier to be in the correct position but also makes it easier on the opposing team to do what they want to do in the offensive zone. Just because you are asking your team to do less doesn't make them a better team, it means they aren't capable of elevating their game.


- Flyers_01

No, no, no. The Flyers are much improved and this year is very different. Tortorella has made a major difference and the team is fun to watch again. Tortorella is hands down the Jack Adams award winner.

Btw I stayed classy and didn’t rub in the Eagles loss until now. Lol. I told you guys. They shouldn’t even got pass the 9 ers. Got a free ride into the Super Bowl.

Clearly the problem with the Flyers was Claude Giroux all along. Everything's been awesome since he was removed from the team.
- Feanor

I love that Claude's doing so well in Ottawa, clicking w/ Stutzle, and Sens fans calling him their best UFA signing ever. Love it.

So glad he's far away from this hell hole.