He doesn't have anyone to trade. With one exception, JVR and he is not a top trade chip. He's not waiting, he's not getting any offers willing to take to this point.
- MJL

Naw man, d-men are coming off the board and depth scoring is too. Leafs traded away a 3rd liner UFA in Engvall. I'm sure JVR could have been traded by now if they wanted to. My GUESS is the asking price was too high.

Depth dmen like Schenn have been moved, Gustafsson. Braun is a RD. He should easily be traded.

I agree. There clearly was a market for JVR. That market has dwindled significantly. I think Braun and JVR get moved still. Flyers maybe get a 4th and 6th. Not great.
- mickel25

No it's not but assets are better than nothing in return for these guys this year.

Of course not, why would we or any GM? What does it matter if you get Bedard and then play him with Zac McEwen? You need some core of team to build around, don't you? Also, though Fletcher stated he didn't want to trade these players, he would trwde them if he was blown away by an offer, which is exactly as it should be.
- jd250

you crack me up. you want to keep TK hart laughton ivan yet you want a top end draft pick to start the rebuild. Pick a lane

What part do you not get that those players do not fit into the flyers timeline for getting back into contention?

Those players above will be long past their prime when or if the flyers ever get back into relevance. Hart probably at the tale end of his prime. Never mind the fact TK ivan and hart will all need new contracts in the next few years.

It is incompetence not to move them. Again actions speak louder than words.

Get ready for the 330 presser on Friday when we hear the line ”it’s much easier to make deals in the summer”. ‘Nothing materialized, that made sense”. ‘We have to continue to nibble away at it”. Oh and we’ve extended JVR for 3 more year, because we believe in this group.
- landros 2

I've already heard that in my mind for a week now. Add to it "Being a GM is really hard work"

He doesn't have anyone to trade. With one exception, JVR and he is not a top trade chip. He's not waiting, he's not getting any offers willing to take to this point.
- MJL

I guess Braun and Brown too...but, yeah. I'd be surprised if anything happens that fans can feel enthusiastic about. The end of this season is just going to be depressing.

I guess Braun and Brown too...but, yeah. I'd be surprised if anything happens that fans can feel enthusiastic about. The end of this season is just going to be depressing.
- Dkos

Thats the thing. Trading out those players are simple moves. I am not sure CF is capable of even doing that. If he traded out 2 of the 3 (Braun, Brown, JVR) and got draft picks in return I would be mildly excited. That is how little I think of that dude.

Is Kane in the lineup tonight for the Rangers?

I agree. There clearly was a market for JVR. That market has dwindled significantly. I think Braun and JVR get moved still. Flyers maybe get a 4th and 6th. Not great.
- mickel25

Let's break this down. There clearly was a market for JVR. Based on what? So other players were traded before JVR and that has dwindled the market. Doesn't that clearly tell us that there was a much larger market for those players than there was for JVR? I think JVR still gets moved also but that market was not what many thought it was. That is very clear. Unless you think there is a fierce bidding war going on and Fletcher is turning down good offers to drive up the price.

Is Kane in the lineup tonight for the Rangers?
- Dkos

They said tomorrow.

Naw man, d-men are coming off the board and depth scoring is too. Leafs traded away a 3rd liner UFA in Engvall. I'm sure JVR could have been traded by now if they wanted to. My GUESS is the asking price was too high.

Depth dmen like Schenn have been moved, Gustafsson. Braun is a RD. He should easily be traded.
- Aaron_85

So you think Fletcher is turning down good offers for JVR? I doubt it. Braun is close to retirement. He's not much of a player right now. His foot speed has left him. Schenn is a much better player than Braun is now. Braun is not a player you want in your top 6 as a playoff team. If Fletcher was offered a 2nd round pick for JVR, he'd already have been traded.

Is Kane in the lineup tonight for the Rangers?
- Dkos

I've heard yes he will be. And he's going to be fired up. Look out Cahta Haht!

EDIT: Per Bill's just put up post, the answer is no. Kane is not playing.

couple things

ouch to be J Quick, seemed he was blindsided and shown the door, no swan song there.

Yes CF gets an F for his time as GM. I keep reading on other blogs how well NJ did and how they did it right etc. How the Rangers did it right.

I agree they did a good job but they also got the luck of the balls, the luck of the right drafts and benefit of location. Getting Nico and not getting Patrick, good call on their part but also lucky. Winning lottery again and it being the Hughes draft. Then you add in, they had no choice but to start over, even having reining MVP at one point, it was obvious. The Rangers are blessed to have the draw of NY with Panairin and other players, the only place they want to play but yes did a good job with trades. Their top picks, while making progress without FA and trades would look more like the Flyers.

Not defending it but the Flyers had G and Jake in their prime, Crosby and Malkin were the 1/2 blueprint, you could make the case that G and Jake with a real good group around them could compete and with luck beat the Pens. Of course luck is not plan. Point being Flyers had reasons to hold on, they just fell 1-2 payers short of rebuilding and adding the core they needed to support G, they also failed to realize how good the new generation of players were going to be, developing faster than prior years, Hextall owns it. You roll forward, CF comes in and they decide to re-tool and stick with the G regime, didn't adjust direction once it was obvious they blew it. It is why GM's are the leaders and get paid the big bucks, CF failed, owneship fails.

Flyers deserve all the criticism but it also takes a lot of luck to make it happen. You have to pick top in the best drafts, not just in drafts, you have to get your Hedmans, MacKinnons, Hughes, McDavid etc. If Jersey doesn't get the bonce in the Hughes draft, they are not where they are today. Of course they still need to win the cup, until that happens, no plan is complete, no plan is better than another, aka the Oilers.

Either way to realistically look at the flyers so far with the looming trade deadline is gloomy. One Chuck is having teams wanting players for nothing because he isn’t really respected.
Or he is trying to drive up the price while other teams are just going after other alternatives.
I’m not so sure he has a firm grasp on what direction to take.
His bias for non action at this point just cements the fact in stone that he is not a good GM.
The only saving grace thing that I can think of is that CF is going to make the bigger moves of players with term in the offseason.

Either way to realistically look at the flyers so far with the looming trade deadline is gloomy. One Chuck is having teams wanting players for nothing because he isn’t really respected.
Or he is trying to drive up the price while other teams are just going after other alternatives.
I’m not so sure he has a firm grasp on what direction to take.
His bias for non action at this point just cements the fact in stone that he is not a good GM.
The only saving grace thing that I can think of is that CF is going to make the bigger moves of players with term in the offseason.

Listen, I can't stand Fletcher and I think he is a complete incompetent buffoon. That being said, how has he misplayed the deadline? He has basically one trade chip and that player is way down the list of available players.
- MJL

can you define trade chip in your world? He has several players he can move.

My point is these players are off the books at the end of the year, and if moved at the deadline they will not bring much in return. I would be shocked at this point if Fletcher can get even a 3rd round pick this year for JVR. Look at his numbers and impact to the team over the past few seasons, he is just not that good. Braun and Brown might get you a 5th or 6th round pick, but honestly who cares! The real meat will come from trading players like Hayes and DeAngelo. Of all the moves that have been made so far, Colorado and Calgary have been very quiet.
- jd250

would you rather have more or less draft picks?

Either way to realistically look at the flyers so far with the looming trade deadline is gloomy. One Chuck is having teams wanting players for nothing because he isn’t really respected.
Or he is trying to drive up the price while other teams are just going after other alternatives.
I’m not so sure he has a firm grasp on what direction to take.
His bias for non action at this point just cements the fact in stone that he is not a good GM.
The only saving grace thing that I can think of is that CF is going to make the bigger moves of players with term in the offseason.
- bird_dog_pa

There is a lot of legitimate criticisms of Fletcher but a bias for non-action? That's not one of them.

Let's break this down. There clearly was a market for JVR. Based on what? So other players were traded before JVR and that has dwindled the market. Doesn't that clearly tell us that there was a much larger market for those players than there was for JVR? I think JVR still gets moved also but that market was not what many thought it was. That is very clear. Unless you think there is a fierce bidding war going on and Fletcher is turning down good offers to drive up the price.
- MJL

It was reported by multiple sources that multiple teams were interested in JVR. Not a bidding war per se but interest. Some of the teams in that group have acquired other players instead of JVR and no longer are interested in him. I think Chuckles probably already received the best offer he will get. Once again Chuckles has seemingly not maximized an asset.

It was reported by multiple sources that multiple teams were interested in JVR. Not a bidding war per se but interest. Some of the teams in that group have acquired other players instead of JVR and no longer are interested in him. I think Chuckles probably already received the best offer he will get. Once again Chuckles has seemingly not maximized an asset.
- mickel25

People get fooled every year. There are sources and there are sources. Teams do a lot of talking this time of year. A lot of feeling out, checking the waters and the value of players. Lots of conversations going on. These conversations get leaked. Every tom, Richard and harry wants to have the scoop. So this "noise" gets reported. When you see it from sources such as Dreger, LeBrun, Friedman, etc. Then you know it's real. If there was a large market for JVR, like there has been for other players he'd have been traded already. Those other teams that had so called interest, went in another direction. That shows the level of real interest that they had. Again, if he had received a good offer, he'd have made it. The market for JVR is not what it was thought to be. If he can get a 2nd, Fletcher will have done well.

Best trade chip the Flyers have right noe is Seeler and he probably only gets a 3rd rdr. My guess is JVR gets moved forva 4rh with half salary retained. Too bad Sanheim was extended, would have been a much more interesting deadline

Best trade chip the Flyers have right noe is Seeler and he probably only gets a 3rd rdr. My guess is JVR gets moved forva 4rh with half salary retained. Too bad Sanheim was extended, would have been a much more interesting deadline
- Trox88

I would seriously doubt that Seeler could fetch a 3rd rounder but you never know. Things happen that you don't expect.

It's true Fletcher doesn't actually have much to work with, but man is it disappointing to know the Flyers are going to have an underwhelming deadline. I totally understand some of the wishful thinking. You see the flurry of activity around the league and it's hard not to be jealous! Guess we'll just have to accept that "there wasn't much that made sense for us" as we continue our long, casual glide into the dumpster.

Oh no torts must be pissed. Frost feeling it lately. Good for him.