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Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Mar 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
He doesn't want to.
- bmeltzer

What a d!@k.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Mar 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
Interesting. When my employer asks me to do something I'm simply going to say I don't want to. How do you think it would pan out?
- PLindbergh31


I am going to disagree with you there. We (collectively) are criticizing coaches and GMs for not putting players into the best position to succeed. Putting Ivan on the right will be exactly that. I am actually happy that both coaches and the player in agreement on playing position.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Mar 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
What a d!@k.
- Shrike

Hypothetically- he agrees, and he sucks in the new position. I can see your future comment: What a d!@k.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
Wonder why Chuck isnt playing the middle man in any deals. Pure incompetence.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
Wonder why Chuck isnt playing the middle man in any deals. Pure incompetence.
- hello it's me 2050

You need a little cap room for that.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
You need a little cap room for that.
- Sinisalo4vr

falls under pure incompetence.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 1 @ 3:48 PM ET
Chuck immediately trades pick for 29 yr old US born 2nd liner.
- hereticpride


Then signs him to an 8 year $60 million contract.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Mar 1 @ 3:49 PM ET
falls under pure incompetence.
- hello it's me 2050

I mean at this juncture 99% of knowledgable Flyers fans realize this.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
good to see Isaac Ratcliffe with an assist in his Milwaukee debut.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hayes won't be traded without eating a significant portion of his cap hit. Is it worth it?
- PLindbergh31

Absolutely it is. Eating $2.6M per season should be enough to get the deal done, and the cap will go up at least that much so it will be a wash.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
Hayes won't be traded without eating a significant portion of his cap hit. Is it worth it?
- PLindbergh31

Absolutely it is. Eating $2.6M per season should be enough to get the deal done, and the cap will go up at least that much so it will be a wash.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
I hope Pens get Chychrun, as long as they completely overpay for him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
good to see Isaac Ratcliffe with an assist in his Milwaukee debut.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
Hayes won't be traded without eating a significant portion of his cap hit. Is it worth it?
- PLindbergh31

Absolutely it is. Eating $2.6M per season should be enough to get the deal done, and the cap will go up at least that much so it will be a wash.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
This is quite possibly the worst Flyers lineup in club history.
- BiggE


Not even close to the worst lineup in club history. Try this one on for size:

Gagne-Umberger-Knuble
Calder-Potulny-Afanasenkov
Eager-Mike York-Kapanen
Fedoruk- Boyd Kane- Meloche

Hatcher-Zhitnik
Pitkänen-Picard
Randy Jones -Printz

Niittmäki
[Esche]



6-1 loss to Ottawa, Jan. 7, 2007
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 4:17 PM ET
Not even close to the worst lineup in club history. Try this one on for size (P

Gagne-Umberger-Knuble
Calder-Potulny-Afanasenkov
Eager-Mike York-Kapanen
Fedoruk- Boyd Kane- Meloche

Hatcher-Zhitnik
Pitkänen-Picard
Randy Jones -Printz

Niittmäki

- bmeltzer[Esche]



6-1 loss to Ottawa, Jan. 7, 2007

Love Ben Eager. Had he focused more on being a hockey player then a cement head he could have been much better. He had skills.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 4:20 PM ET
I hope Pens get Chychrun, as long as they completely overpay for him.
- wcorvette

nah miss the playoffs and get bedard. Would be awesome
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 1 @ 4:21 PM ET
You have to admit the Morin move to wing was a rousing success.
- PLindbergh31

Yea, RIP 🙏 Morin's short hockey career.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:23 PM ET
Love Ben Eager. Had he focused more on being a hockey player then a cement head he could have been much better. He had skills.
- hello it's me 2050


Only player I saw gripe about his ice time when his team was one win away from the Calder Cup. After Game 3 of the 2005 CCF, someone asked Eager, "Was tonight a good example of why John Stevens preaches to trust the process?" (or words to that effect).

Replay, "I don't know. I barely played tonight. Asked someone who played."
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 1 @ 4:24 PM ET
Only player I saw gripe about his ice time when his team was one win away from the Calder Cup. After Game 3 of the 2005 CCF, someone asked Eager, "Was tonight a good example of why John Stevens preaches to trust the process?" (or words to that effect).

Replay, "I don't know. I barely played tonight. Asked someone who played."

- bmeltzer

never heard that before.

what is garth snow up to Bill?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:26 PM ET
never heard that before.

what is garth snow up to Bill?

- hello it's me 2050


Adam Kimelman can confirm. He was there, too. Eager sat in the third period when Stevens shortened the bench and was apparently sour about it.

Garth just did something recently with the Islanders Alumni.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 1 @ 4:28 PM ET
Bill,

Have you noticed that any time when Frost's name gets brought up in pressers, including this afternoon, Torts speaks about him in a way that casts doubt on his future with the organization?

Tippett, York, Cates... none of them are spoken about in that way, even when they're struggling. Frost was one of the team's most effective players in Dec and Jan but you rarely heard any praise from Torts.

Do you feel like it's Torts just not liking the player fundamentally or do you think it's just a continuing head game that he's playing with Frost for the sake of motivation? Or something else? What do you think the deal is?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
Only player I saw gripe about his ice time when his team was one win away from the Calder Cup. After Game 3 of the 2005 CCF, someone asked Eager, "Was tonight a good example of why John Stevens preaches to trust the process?" (or words to that effect).

Replay, "I don't know. I barely played tonight. Asked someone who played."

- bmeltzer


Agreed most don’t say it….but the ALL think it. 😂
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
So if Hayes only plays 12 minutes versus 18, that's going to make a difference?
- MJL

The plan is to only have him play the good, effective minutes, while cutting the bad, value-lowering minutes.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:30 PM ET
Another all-timer. The Lake Tahoe game (due to all the Covid cases)

JVR-Coots-Farabee
Raffl-Hayes-Aube-Kubel
Bunnaman-Patrick-Sushko
Morin-Andreoff-Friedman

Provorov - Myers
Sanheim-Gostisbehere
Hägg-Gustafsson

Hart
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